Bachmann C19 video from Bachmann

Very nice :bigsmile: thanks for posting Peter
 
any one else think its a bit jerky ,,,,,,,

like them but still think the smokeboxes should be silver,,,,

no doubt will end up with a couple of them,,,
 
Do like the C-19 in the bumble bee paint scheme :love: i take it that the loco was painted these colours just for the movie in which it was wrecked in July 17th 1951 and never ran by the Rio Grande ? Bachmann need to add a diamond smoke stack to complete the look . Also nice to see that the marker lights are white and not orange as on the K-27 .
I see it had a colourful life time started out life as C-19 401 Grand River and then rebuilt as a standard gauge loco C-74 803 then back to a C-19 345
 
Hi,
Quite right; it was a trait of the Amreican locos that the poor old fireman was out in the cold and stoof on the fall plate between the cab and tender!

On some locos (not narrow gauge ) the fireman was even more exposed. The Eastern railroads used a loco called a 'Mother Hubbard' where the driver was on the side of the boiler and the freamn only had a roof over him othersise thwere was nothing other than the fall plate.

RobsMorgan has built an early version of the Mother Hubbards, and the Baltimore & Ohio has a preserved one in their museum.

Even in the Consolidations (2 8 0) and some moguls(260) the driver was fitted inside the small space between the inner cab side and the firebox - the American loco cabs may look huge but with the firebox occupying most of the space there was very little room in them for working the loco. Most 'loco crew' figures are too wide to fit as a result - thin figures are needed, or some major surgery otherwise, where it will not be seen.

Here is a cropped photo of a cab drawing(its actually the Brooks Loco Works verion, but there is very little difference: it was for the layout of the (firemans side) injector piping) of the cab layout - as you can see of the cab, which is on my DSP Mogul, showing the firebox inside it - there is a small amount of space left for the fireman in the cab; but not much! Like the driver he has a small space by a hot firebox when not working, otherwise it was the fall plate for humping coal into the firebox.

Access to the cab was by side doors for both the crew; one thing the Bachmann have got wrong on the up-coming loco is the doors were hinged on the outer edges - that at least would provide some shelter from cold Colorado winter winds.

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Yours Peter
 
It's a beauty - shame they didn't realise that metal gearboxes were the way to go from the start.

I wonder who'll offer the best price over here ?
 
peterbunce said:
Access to the cab was by side doors for both the crew; one thing the Bachmann have got wrong on the up-coming loco is the doors were hinged on the outer edges - that at least would provide some shelter from cold Colorado winter winds.

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Yours Peter
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Cant speak for the C-19's but is my understanding T-19s and C-21s did have hinges on the left of the doors, The Accucraft C-21 and the Berlyn T-19 do. I would be surprised if the 19s were different, would hamper the driver. Canvas curtains were the usual cold remedy.

Regards

Rod
 
Hi Rod,

Yup: the supposition of the doors being hinged to the outside was wrong:(& o.

David Fletcher says when new they were hinged as you say; the fireman's on the outside, the driver's on the inside edge of the rear of the cab. Sorry!

Yours Peter.
 
Steve Stockham - on our Colonial Colleagues' sister site (mylargescale.com) - has posted comparison pictures between a C19 and a Connie.

Admittedly the C19 is an Accucraft model, but it's 1:20.3 scale so the Bachmannn loco should be of similar size.

I was a bit worried that it would be another "mammoth" like the K27, but gladly I was wrong (and frighteningly so for my wallet :bigsmile: )

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Don Gilham said:
It's a beauty - shame they didn't realise that metal gearboxes were the way to go from the start.

I wonder who'll offer the best price over here ?
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Hattons have one of each livery at £1016 but the only model with a photo is the Royal Gorge.
 
Hi Don,

The C19 is about 1/2" longer then the C16, but with a much larger diameter boiler; I have just pieced together a PDF print from David Fletcher of the C19 as Class 70 when delivered. That has an overall length of 30.5 inches.

The boiler does not change in size (when re-boilered), and the Bachmann one may be longer but it gives an idea of the size. Like the NG 2 8 0 's the centre pair of drivers are flangless so the loco should slide on our 'too sharp' curves - hopefully!

Yours peter
 
Stan Ames says that it can do R2/ 5ft diameter as a minimum. But this would not look so great.
8ft and up would be better.

Alec
 
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