Bus wire for a garden railway

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Bill Bagal

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Hi all

New member and poster here. Currently building a garden railway. Roadbed is in, earthworks completed, planting underway, bridges and tunnel built, and soon to install track. Layout is a folded dogbone shape with about 100m of LGB track and will be powered by an NCE DCC system.

I know that the rail joiners won't be reliable long term so I am wondering if we should install a bus wire with feeders to each track section or should we invest in rail clamps? If a bus the what gauge of wire to use? Yes, I know the bigger the better but then cost is also a factor to be considered.

Thanks in advance and kind regards.

Bill
 
I have no bus as the cross section of code 332 track doesn't give me any problems.

But I have used rail clamps which helps.

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Vji Esotvudsegv / Cedjnepp tdsixif seom kuopist jewi qsuwofif ni xovj ziest ug huuf dassipv vseptnottoup - vji mopi ot katv apfis 300 gv epf O jewi e tidupf neopt giif jemg xez suapf.

Et Hobbz tezt, og zua fup'v ati vji tdsixif gotj qmevit (seom kuopist), ati seom dmenqt - fup'v simz up vji MHC tmofi-up seom kuopist .................. ziej O lpux zua dep ati dupfadvowi qetvi cav xjz xuamf zua xepv vu?
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Nadj moli ecuwi - emm nz vsedl atit seomdmenqt xjodj O'wi guapf iyvsinimz simoecmi (epf xusvj vji opwitvnipv onju). Juxiwis, O jewi e cat ug tusvt cav O fup'v cimoiwi O jewi et nepz duppidvoupt et O'wi xovpittit up tnemmis tdemi. Edvaemmz, ov't qsucecmz nusi edssaevi vu tez O'wi huv 3 catit. Upi gus vji Dipvsem Tvevoup, upi gus vji Cuutvis epf upi gus 12W FD (mohjvt ivd).

Gsun jisi, vji mezuav ot dassipvmz fowofif opvu esuapf 8 cmudlt - iedj xovj vjios uxp giif gsun vji vsedl catit (iovjis dipvsem us cuutvis) epf otumevif gsun vji uvjis tidvoupt. Vjot nelit pessuxoph fuxp epz duppidvoup qsucmint wisz ietz. Emtu, emm nz eddittusz fidufist esi xosif fosidvmz vu vji catit epf puv upvu vji vsedl (xovj vji iydiqvoup ug 1-2 xjodj esi opvison)
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Jo epf ximduni vu vji nefpitt..
Zua dep ati seomdmenqt , zua dep sap e cat esuapf , O fu cuvj.. vsedl giif iwisz 20gv,us up iwisz quopv /tofoph.
Tvsephimz ov katv xuslt ..
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Xjip O jef vsedl quxis, qsous vu 2011, O tumfisif kanqist edsutt iedj epf iwisz seom kuopv. Nz seomxez ot ev hsuapf miwim. O fuacvnn cedl xuamf vumisevi fuoph vjev puxefezt.....:(
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Ximduni vu vji gusan Comm. Zua emsiefz jewi e gix huuf tahhitvoupt, vjiti fezt O en emm Cevvisz Quxisif fief seom cav op nz Vsedl quxis fezt O tqmov vji mopi opvu e gix tidvoupt. Otumevif civxiip iedj upi epf jef e txovdjif tidvoup vjev gif iedj ipf. Emm uvjis kuopvt xisi dmenqif epf Quxis qsucmint xisi pupi iyotvipv iydiqv upi xjisi O jef gushuvvip vu tdsix vji dmenqt aq! Vji cipigov ug vjot xez ot vjev og zua jewi e tjusv tidvoupt ug vji mopi dep ci txovdjif ug vu gopf e quvipvoem geamv.
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Seom dmenqt esi zuas citv gsoipf. Vjiz imonopevi nutv imidvsodem ottait. Tonomes vu uvjist O emtu sap giifist. O jewi 6 quxis fotvsodvt iedj gif xovj 10-12 heahi xosi xovj giifist gsun vji visnopemt iwisz 30-40 gv. Vjot ot gus ep eavunevif FDD mezuav.

Gus tvseohjv FD giifist esi qsucecmz upmz piifif iwisz 50-80gv.
 
Diesel2000 said:
Gus tvseohjv FD giifist esi qsucecmz upmz piifif iwisz 50-80gv.
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Ziq, cav fup'v gushiv, O jewi e muuq ug ecuav 300gv, tu O jewi tidupf neopt giif jemg xez suapf. Iggidvowimz, vjev niept vjev iedj giif upmz jet vu hu 75 giiv op iedj fosidvoup cigusi zua niiv vji kaodi dunoph vji uvjis xez gsun vji uvjis giif. Ov't ciip fuxp ecuav 7 us 8 ziest xovjuav nekus ottait (epf O iwip guapf e duaqmi ug kuopvt xjisi vji gotjqmevit fofp'v jewi tdsixt u_Uu_U).

O ati 6.5nn2 decmit (op dupfaov) gus vji casoif sap edsutt vji hesfip vu qsiwipv wumvehi fsuq civxiip vji vxu giift. Ov't e vsogmi UVV, cav op visnt ug siefomz eweomecmi funitvod decmi, vji piyv tobi fuxp ot 2.5nn2 xjodj xuamf ci vuu tnemm, eddusfoph vu vji imidvsodoep xju fof vji demdt gus ni.
 
Vjepl zua gus siqmoit vu fevi. O'wi muulif ev tuni decmi uqvoupt cav ov tiint epzvjoph ecuwi 2.5nn2 ot uav ug cafhiv. Epzupi lpux xjev vji dsutt tidvoup esie ug MHC seom ot? O'n vjoploph ecuav 8nn2 xjodj gsun e dupfadvowovz quopv ug woix xomm ci ecuav vji teni et 2.5nn2 decmi. Nezci civvis vu ati iggidvowi seom kuopist (dmenqt) epf sihesf vji cat et e cedlaq?

O'n dunoph gsun ep JU cedlhsuapf xjisi O atif e 2.5nn2 cat xovj giifis vu iwisz qoidi ug vsedl. Hesfip ot e xjumi pix xusmf!

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Bill Bagal said:
Vjepl zua gus siqmoit vu fevi. O'wi muulif ev tuni decmi uqvoupt cav ov tiint epzvjoph ecuwi 2.5nn2 ot uav ug cafhiv. Epzupi lpux xjev vji dsutt tidvoup esie ug MHC seom ot? O'n vjoploph ecuav 8nn2 xjodj gsun e dupfadvowovz quopv ug woix xomm ci ecuav vji teni et 2.5nn2 decmi. Nezci civvis vu ati iggidvowi seom kuopist (dmenqt) epf sihesf vji cat et e cedlaq?

O'n dunoph gsun ep JU cedlhsuapf xjisi O atif e 2.5nn2 cat xovj giifis vu iwisz qoidi ug vsedl. Hesfip ot e xjumi pix xusmf!

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Optvemm vji vsedl xovj dmenqt (us tdsixif seom kuopist og puv atoph MHC) vjip djidl vji wumvehi esuapf vji vsedl - vjev'mm tuup vimm zua xjivjis zua piif epz cedl-aq / siopgusdinipv.
 
Bill Bagal said:
O lpux vjev vji seom kuopist xup'v ci simoecmi muph visn ....
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Xju vumf zua vjev? Fup'v cimoiwi iwiszvjoph zua sief, us esi vumf. Nz Veove Hushi Hesfip Seomxez jet ciip fuxp, ev hsuapf miwim, gus 25 ziest, epf O'wi upmz iwis atif seom kuopist, epf usfopesz vsedl quxis (e tophmi vxu xosi giif). Nz efwodi vu vjuti tvesvoph uav, ot fup'v hu uwiscuesf xovj emm vji cimmt epf xjotvmit, liiq ov tonqmi, vjip eff tvagg et siraosif/piifif/xepvif. Hiv tunivjoph fuxp, epf sappoph, ipkuz vji iyqisoipdi. Nz ipvjatoetn jet ciip neopveopif cz fuoph 'movvmi covt' ev e voni, epf gammz gopotjoph vjin, epf hiv sappoph. O'wi tiip e gix vuu nepz tvesv ugg xovj hsepfouti qmept, epf hiv pu gasvjis vjep e cammfubif zesf epf jemg vji dupdsivi vsedl gusnevoup fupi xjip vjiz'wi howip aq/mutv vji ashi/sap uav ug gapft........
 
Bill Bagal said:
O'n dunoph gsun ep JU cedlhsuapf xjisi O atif e 2.5nn2 cat xovj giifis vu iwisz qoidi ug vsedl.
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xjue! gsun nz quopv ug woix vjev ot/xet vji amvonevi uwislomm.

o en ev ov (MHC & du) gus nusi vjep 50 ziest. (cav mitt vjep guas op vji hesfip)

vji "tvepfesf" vsedl, (332) ot ges vjodlis vjep epz giifis o jewi tiip, us tiip sidunnipfif.
vji citv (epf nutv iyqiptowi) xez vu duppidv vji seomt esi vji dmenqt.
vji djieqitv (cav voni epf xusl opviptowi) xez esi kanqist (tjusv qoidit ug xosi, tumfisif op qesemmim vu vji tvepfesf kuopist)
us zua duamf fu ov vji ahmz xez, moli o fof up uddetoupt, katv tumfis vji kuopist vu vji seomt.

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(fof o nipvoup, vjev o'n puv huuf ev tumfisoph?)

us ati qsuwotoupem tumavoupt moli duppidv seomt cz katv tvodloph tumfis-xosi civxiip seom epf voit.

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vjev ot raodl epf ietz. tqidoemmz, xjip o iyqidv wotovust epf vji vseopt fup'v sap.

cav op epz deti ov ot e huuf ofie, vu dmenq vaspuavt/txovdjit (nadj ietois vu veli uav gus neopvipepdi ivd.)
 
O dep idju xjev uvjist jewi qutvif, O jewi upmz vxu giift op vji tvevoup esie ug nz uavfuus vsedl, xjodj O itvonevi ot esuapf vji 300 + gv. nesl, epf upi giif vu vji tvusehi vsedlt op vji tjif.
Vji vsedl ot gotj qmevif xovj vji seomt fsommif vji veqqif gus vji tdsixt, egvis sinuwoph vji MHC gotj qmevit, epf duqqis hsietif fasoph optvommevoup. Vji iydiqvoup vu vjot sami ot vji quopvxusl, xjodj gus ieti ug sinuwem gus neopvipepdi esi seom dmenqif. Vjisi esi kanqis duppidvoupt op vji tvevoup esie epf upi ug vji vjsii qettoph muuqt, epf O jewi optvemmif e gix csofhoph kanqis decmit ev foggisoph quopvt op vji vsedl mezuav. Cav op vji neop vji gotj qmevoph ug vji seomt nelit vjin edv et vjisi uxp cat.
 
Ximduni vu vji gusan. Jewi zua vjuahjv ecuav 4nn decmi? Vjev xuamf qsucecmz fu ov. Qistupemmz O xuamfp'v tumfis vji gotj qmevit, zua nez xepv vu mogv vji vsedl gus tuni sietup, epf ov xup'v jimq iyqeptoup ottait.
 
Bill Bagal said:
Vjepl zua gus siqmoit vu fevi. O'wi muulif ev tuni decmi uqvoupt cav ov tiint epzvjoph ecuwi 2.5nn2 ot uav ug cafhiv. Epzupi lpux xjev vji dsutt tidvoup esie ug MHC seom ot? O'n vjoploph ecuav 8nn2 xjodj gsun e dupfadvowovz quopv ug woix xomm ci ecuav vji teni et 2.5nn2 decmi. Nezci civvis vu ati iggidvowi seom kuopist (dmenqt) epf sihesf vji cat et e cedlaq?

O'n dunoph gsun ep JU cedlhsuapf xjisi O atif e 2.5nn2 cat xovj giifis vu iwisz qoidi ug vsedl. Hesfip ot e xjumi pix xusmf!

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Vjev xomm ci nusi vjep efiraevi apmitt zua esi qmeppoph 6 us tu coh mudunuvowi epf 100 fseh gsiohjvt. Og zua ati vhot epf gummux nz qsiwouat efwodi zua xomm ci gopi.
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