Fixing guardrails

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I have a couple of meters of track that run parallel to the edge of the pond as well as a few bridges. I wanted to add a guard rail to minimise the risk of derailments escalating. I knew a few people on this forum have added guardrails to off-the-shelf track (LGB, TrainLine 45) and I'm curious how you went about it.

Appreciate the advice in advance!

Curtis
 
This is not for code 332 rail (yet?) but I just saw this a couple of days ago. At around 1:20
David from Split Jaw announces the Summer availability special tie sections for Code 250 rail that will locate a Code 215 guard rail. Maybe he could be convinced to do something similar for Code 332 rail!
 
I have a couple of meters of track that run parallel to the edge of the pond as well as a few bridges. I wanted to add a guard rail to minimise the risk of derailments escalating. I knew a few people on this forum have added guardrails to off-the-shelf track (LGB, TrainLine 45) and I'm curious how you went about it.

Appreciate the advice in advance!

Curtis
Whilst this example is Peco 250 the same principle works for LGB and other 332 track. I put the rail in place, drill a couple of tiny holes then bang in small steel flat nails. These hold the rails in place adequately for my use of mixed gauge 3 track. If you worry too much about the nails lifting out once they have rusted a bit of oil or grease will almost stop the process, you could even dip each nail into grease as you put them in. I only did the nails every 6 sleepers.
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I have a couple of meters of track that run parallel to the edge of the pond as well as a few bridges. I wanted to add a guard rail to minimise the risk of derailments escalating. I knew a few people on this forum have added guardrails to off-the-shelf track (LGB, TrainLine 45) and I'm curious how you went about it.

Appreciate the advice in advance!

Curtis
It seems these responses are about guide rails, reading your question I had assumed you were after some type of railing, i.e. upright so if there was a de-railing the train would not fall off.
 
I have a couple of meters of track that run parallel to the edge of the pond as well as a few bridges. I wanted to add a guard rail to minimise the risk of derailments escalating. I knew a few people on this forum have added guardrails to off-the-shelf track (LGB, TrainLine 45) and I'm curious how you went about it.

Appreciate the advice in advance!

Curtis
Ah, just testing the terminology.

Are we talking (in British terms) of guardrail as in something at handrail height, or check rail between the running rails.

If the latter, then some Aristo rail is useful as it is ready drilled and tapped at intervals as Aristo used to screw the sleepers to the rail.

I then screwed the check rail direct to the sleepers, fixing them just inside the moulded rail chair. This has the added advantage of the check rail being a millimetre or so below the height of the running rail, and doesn't impede track cleaning.

Have been trying to find a picture, without success :oops:
 
Ah, my apologies for the ambiguity in my message. Yes, check rails as demonstrated by Dunny or from casey jones snr casey jones snr 's post yesterday
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Question - does a nail in a plastic sleeper suffice? I suppose the rail itself is rarely taking a traffic like the actual rail and given the number of connections even if a couple fail it will be fine.
If you're going near a pond, both types might be a good idea
 
Ah, my apologies for the ambiguity in my message. Yes, check rails as demonstrated by Dunny or from casey jones snr casey jones snr 's post yesterday
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Question - does a nail in a plastic sleeper suffice? I suppose the rail itself is rarely taking a traffic like the actual rail and given the number of connections even if a couple fail it will be fine.
Yes the nail is ample, the pre drilled hole ideally need to be slightly smaller then the plastic will hold the nail in sufficiently. As I said my example is a test track for my Gauge 3 trains and works just fine.
 
If you worry too much about the nails lifting out once they have rusted a bit of oil or grease will almost stop the process
I found quite the opposite. I had steel nails/spikes in some rails through wooden sleepers/ties which rusted and became impossible to remove. Rusty steel expands so they were fine. Eventually the heads fell off, so they had to be replaced - but that will happen even if the shafts have been oiled or greased.
 
Mine are laid just inside the chairs and are normally just glued down with silicone glue. I wish I has some smaller code rail as that would appear more realistic that the ‘normal’ code rail. However from 10’ it looks ok and does the job.

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