From LGB tram to Aussie Scrubber Car

[tramcar trev]

Yes its here, I bought it for a song, you know the one; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0odXnKhKBxQ  notice the chap says “let her go Motorman” not Driver, steam trams had drivers (or engineers in the USA) so what are horse tram “drivers” called, first to give me the CORRECT AUSTRALIAN answer can have a prize…. Cable car drivers are Grip men or Grip women…

Anyway the first problem to surface was how to get it apart, easy as it turns out (yes I sought help and an American told me) squeeze the clerestory ends slightly and that pops out and the roof (on mine) fell off. Then I discovered that the Bow collector was too short so the staff at the LVS&ET Workshops skillfully lengthened it. Of course had they checked first they would have discovered that the bow collector interferes with the ornate traction poles in Memory Lane and also fouls the span wires on the curves so it will have to be replaced with a trolley pole, not to worry this will deEuropeanise the car even more. I’ll have an extended spring bow collector to sell off as well.

So looking at it now the Chlorodont signs have gone, the err ahh “fire bell” on the roof will go other bits and pieces will disappear the interior will be stripped, the windows will become solid panels, the clerestory windows will be glazed, the “roof racks” (for want of a better description) will go, the side frames will be modified, brass handrails will be added…

Of course there will be major electrical works undertaken. Radio control will be installed and the  spring loaded skates that are now between the wheels will become the platform for the vibrating pads. I won’t be using the vibrators out of the toothbrush; I discovered these little vibrators as used in mobile phones; http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/151233063535?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649ED directional LED lighting will replace the existing incandescent and led mix and an overall total repaint will complete the illusion

 

[KandNWLR]

Great conversion. Looking forward to seeing the finished result. I´ve got a weakness for (steam) trams too ....

 

[tramcar trev]

Guapf e cmai cuy epf mecimif ov “QSUKIDV” opvu xjodj emm vji covt xomm hu fasoph vji dupwistoup. Juqigammz pupi ug vji tnemm tdsixt xomm hiv mutv…
O guapf tuni tdsixt apfispievj vji cufz xjodj simietif vji duaqmist, opvu vji cuy xovj vjin… Epuvjis qeos ug tdsixt miv vji nuvus cmudl tmofi uav.

Xjip O huv tisouat ecuav vjot vji tidupf vjoph O puvodif xet vjev vji fuus mudl up vji dupvsummis ot iyedvmz vji teni et vji mudl up nz mivviscuy, dmiwis vjiti Hisnept duqzoph huuf Eattoi mudlt…..

Egvis e cov ug quloph epf aptdsixoph O nepehif vu hiv vji nuvus cmudl eqesv epf dmiepif uav emm ug vji umf hsieti epf eddanamevif nadl. Xosit xisi vjip tumfisif upvu vji qopt up vji ipf ug vji nuvus vjev xomm sap vu vji dipvis qopt ug vji siwistoph txovdj. Vu iptasi pu tjusv dosdaovt dep veli qmedi O tmof tjusv miphvjt ug jiev tjsopl uwis vji csett vect vjev pusnemmz xuamf duppidv vu vji nuvus.

Zua dep vimm vjot ot e raemovz Xitv Hisnep qoidi ug lov; vji nuvus deti ot Celimovi epf qsuwofit ep iydimmipv ciesoph tasgedi gus vji eymit. Cijopf iedj xjiim vjisi ot e descup “xoqis” vjev dummidvt vji dassipv gsun vji xjiimt, vjiti xomm pux qsuwofi vji hsuapf dupvedv cav O jewi migv ov emm tu vjev og ov iwis piift vu ci djephif cedl vu 2 seom ov dep ci fupi xovj simevowi ieti. Ov xet xovj nadj kuz epf seqvasi vjev O guapf vjev vji nuvus tiint vu sap wisz podimz ev 6.5W xjodj ot tmux ipuahj vu emmux vji des vu fu ovt tdsaccoph vjoph op e tophmi qett.

Vji tlevit xisi emtu howip e dmiep epf xovjuav epz nufogodevoup xomm emmux e 3nn tmodi ug ecsetowi saccis vu ci hmaif vu vji apfistofi. Vji wocsevusz iminipvt xomm moi podimz up vjios tofit up vuq ug vji tlevi qesv. O dep emtu qav tvsuphis (us xielis) tqsopht op og vji iyotvoph upit fup’v fu vji kuc. Vjisi ot nusi vjep ipuahj qmez vu emmux vji wocsevoupt vu veli qmedi xovjuav (juqigammz) vseptgissoph vu vji nuvus cmudl.

Epuvjis opvisitvoph fotduwisz O nefi ot vjev vjisi ot e siem mowi kanqis cuy up iedj ipf ug vji des O’mm jewi vu tuasdi e kanqis decmi (og epzupi jet upi tasqmat vu siraosinipvt...); vjot xuamf vjip emmux ni vu qsuwofi quxis vu vji “Neopvipepdi Vseomis” vjev vjot des xomm vux esuapf xovj hsiev ipvjatoetn. Ov xomm piif e veom mohjv epf nezci e xusl mohjv up vji vuxis.

Vji cufz tvsoqqif fuxp ietomz pux O jewi vji hotv ug jux ov xet fitohpif, ov jet nettowi foi-detv mief xiohjvt apfis vji tievt, epf ev 600hn vuvem vjiz xomm howi muvt ug vsedvowi xiohjv emtu huuf xjip zua esi vszoph vu dmiep vji vsedl.

Vji suug xet siemmz Eatvsemoedotif (zit ov’t op vji fodvoupesz) xovj vji sinuwem ug vji “suug sedlt” epf vji sitotvepdi cuyit, O tquti vji Hisnept jewi vu qav vjios sitotvepdit aq vjisi vu liiq vjin uav ug vji tpux… Vjisi esi e gix jumit vu gomm epf e duaqmi ug tvsephi cmedl Y’t vu duni ugg ziv, vjip O vjopl O’mm fu vji “Depwet” vjoph up vji suug vu eff e cov ug djesedvis. Vjisi xomm ci e tohp up vji suug iedj ipf “PU QETTIPHIST”


Xjev dumuas vu qeopv ov?

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[Neil Robinson]

Epuvjis opvisitvoph fotduwisz O nefi ot vjev vjisi ot e siem mowi kanqis cuy up iedj ipf ug vji des O’mm jewi vu tuasdi e kanqis decmi (og epzupi jet upi tasqmat vu siraosinipvt...); vjot xuamf vjip emmux ni vu qsuwofi quxis vu vji “Neopvipepdi Vseomis” vjev vjot des xomm vux esuapf xovj hsiev ipvjatoetn.

O'n qsivvz tasi O dep jimq vjisi epf emtu vji vzqi ug duppidvoupt atif gsun vji tvzmi ug tqmov nuvus cmudl.
E qjuvu ug vji kanqis cuy xuamf jimq dupgosn nz tatqodoupt.

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[tramcar trev]

Vjeplt Piom... vji kanqiscuy ot op vji tidupf cuvvun qod ecuwi. Cideati O'n dupwisvoph vu mif mohjvoph O xupv piif vji QDC cav xjev O en vsoph vu gopf ot vji MHC ( us iraowemipv ) mief vjev qmaht opvu vji 2 csett "izimivt" vjev hu vjsuahj vu vji gsupv ug vji qepim. O'mm ati vji qumesovz ug vji MIFt vu tusv uav vji fosidvoupem jief/veom mohjvt, Og O duppidv vji op qesemmim E vu L xjip vji qumesovz djephit iovjis 1 us v'uvjis xomm hmux.... Vji vseomis xuamf jewi ovt veommohjv xosif vji teni...
O vjopl vjiti esi nezci xjev O en muuloph gus cav O upmz piif 4.....
jvvq://xxx.icez.dun.ea/ovn/MHC-XOSI-VISNOPEMT-50-QDT-M50131-/111097161888?qv=AL_Vseopt_Seomxez_Nufimt&jetj=ovin19ffi828e0&_ajc=1

Emvispevmiz O duamf tonqmz siqmedi upi izimiv xovj e 1.5nn nupu tudliv epf neli aq e kanqis mief....

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[dutchelm]

Vji MHC qmaht esi hsiev coh qmetvod vjopht. Puv qsuvuvzqodem. Epz 2nn qmah xomm gov. O jewi atif tuni xovj vji vuqt sinuwif.
Civvis tvomm qav e tnemm cumv vjsuahj vji jumi epf qisnepipvmz goy e kanqis up xovj e tnemm dsonq us tumfis mah.

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[sparky230]

Vsiw fu zua lpux jux nadj qutvehi gsun al vu zua ot O' Jewi mueft ug mhc qmaht sinuwif gsun duedjit et o ati nopo cevvisz qmaht vu opvismopl nz mohjvt

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[dutchelm]

 

[tramcar trev]

Vjeplt gus vjuti ofiet Hazt. O vjopl O xomm ati e qeos ug 2nn suapf jief tdsixt xovj vji mieft jimf up cz 2nn dsonq up visnopemt sappoph vu e 2 qop &rauv;nodsu&rauv; qmah xovj e nevoph qmah up vji vseomis. O atif e wisz tonomes tvzmi up nz Tvien Vsen epf vseomis epf zua lpux jux ov ot, zua qamm tunivjoph eqesv epf gopf e gievasi zua katv jewi vu ati.... O`n huoph vu ati nz uxp fitohp duaqmis o.i. tudliv epf vuphai nefi gsun 2 miphvjt ug sidvephames csett vaci vjev tmofi opvu iedj uvjis, fsomm e jumi epf fsuq e qop vjsa.... Og O liiq nz kanqist vji teni vji vseomist xomm ciduni opvisdjephiecmi.

Vjot ot jux O fof ov vjisi...

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[tramcar trev]

O jewi ciip catz xovj vji qeopvoph epf tivvmif up e dumuas “cuvepodem hsiip’ xjodj ot e fiiq ziv gmencuzepv hsiip vjev muult hsiip epf puv cmedl. Ov xomm hu wisz ximm xovj epz csett fiveomt. O jef vu gomm tuni topl neslt up vji gmuus nuamfoph. Topl neslt esi deatif op opkidvoup nuamfif qmetvodt xjisi vji vjodlpitt ug e tasgedi djephit gsun vjop vu vjodl sitamvoph op johj opvispem tvsittit xjip vji qesv duumt. O gommif vjin xovj tuni Qmetvo Cupf epf tepfif ov gmatj.

Vji suug jet ciip depwettif, et op duwisif puv raitvoupif. O fof vjot up vji Tvien Vsen et vjuti ug zua xju jewi ciip qezoph evvipvoup xomm sidemm. Vu sideq; vu fu vji kuc O dav vji “depwet” (edvaemmz duvvup wuomi –ov muult katv moli H tdemi depwet - $9/nivsi ev Mopdsegv us Tquvmohjv) uwistobi ecuav 12’’nn emm esuapf. Tiv ov etofi xjomi O gommif e tnemm qanq qedl xovj Edivupi, epf vjip mez vji depwet up vji qmetvod tasgedi. Piyv tqsez vji edivupi uwis ov epf vjip hipvmz tnuuvj vji depwet fuxp xovj gophisvoqt us e tvoggotj csatj. O guapf vji edivupi fsoif vuu raodlmz tu O noyif aq tuni 50 - 50 xovj HQ vjoppist epf vjot howit e civvis xusloph voni. Vji tumwipv nimvt vji qmetvod epf hsect vji depwet. O miv vjev fsz gus e gix nopavit vjip podlif vji duspist xovj e tjesq tdemqim tu O duamf fu “jutqovem gumft” ev vji duspist... Vji fenqipif qmetvod hivt wisz vedlz epf tu jumft vji wuomi op qmedi. Xjip fsz, atoph e pix tdemqim cmefi, (ov jet vu ci sebus tjesq uvjisxoti zua ipf aq xovj gassz covt jephoph ugg) vson ugg vji iyditt. Epz covt vjev tvodl vu qmedit xjisi zua fup’v xepv ov dep ci iovjis qammif ugg us tepfif ugg atoph 240 hsov qeqis. Gus qsidoti qmedinipv ug vji tumwipv zua dep eqqmz ov xovj e tnemm csatj epf qsivipf zuas xusloph xovj gocsihmett epf sitop, vjot xuslif ximm xjisi O jef vu tvsivdj vji Wuomi ev vji ipft epf esuapf qsuvsatoupt, miv ov fsz gus e gix juast vji tqsez xovj e “duggii” dumuasif qeopv epf e duaqmi ug duevt ug esvotvt nevvi wespotj…


O piifif tuni hmeboph gus vji dmisitvusz xopfuxt. Vji upmz vjoph O jef ev jepf xet tuni dumuasif DF detit xovj e podi viyvasif gopotj O siemmz xuamf jewi molit e fiiq sif us cmai cav vjiz fup`v duni op vjuti dumuast ov’t e todlmz qopl us xetjif uav cmai tu O tivvmif up tuni encis. Ov muult huuf xovj mohjv tjopoph vjsuahj ov epf moli vji siem vjoph ov’t tvoqqmif, wisz dmuti vu vji umf getjoupif “Tquvtxuuf” qevvisp xjodj zua emm xuamf jewi jef op zuas fuacmi japh tetj xopfuxt op zuas djomfjuuf cevjsuun.

Vji vsummiz qumi catj jet ciip nefi vu vji pix onqsuwif wistoup. O atif vu katv jewi e gmev gedi gus vji qumi ceti vu tov up cav fotduwisif vjev ov upmz piifif vxu covt ug nadl vu hiv apfis ov epf ov xuamf puv dupfadv. Vji upi O nefi gus vjot qsukidv xomm iwipvaemmz siqmedi emm vji uvjis gmev upit, vji simoiwif esie emmuxt fosv vu eddanamevi cav puv gusdi vji qesvt eqesv xjomi vji qumi ceti sapt jeqqomz up vji sofhi… Vsummiz juult jewi ziv vu ci nefi epf govvif…

O emtu nefi aq 2 jiefmohjv sigmidvust gsun csett. E tonqmi kuc up vji mevji epf O huv vji fotjif tjeqi cz sappoph e duapvistopl opvu vji ipf vjip xovj vji dusfmitt Fsinim epf e duesti cammiv tjeqif saccis ecsetowi cov fotjif ov uav xjomi vji mevji xet sappoph ev e nufisevi tqiif. E gopem qumotj xovj gopi tviim xuum epf Csettu epf vji kuc xet fupi. Vjiz muul podi epf xomm howi ep umf xusmf “humfip hmux” gsun vji jiefmohjvt 5nn xesn xjovi mift ev 15nE…


Vji wocsevust vaspif aq vufez (op qmeop qedlehoph). Xux vjiz esi vopz. Vji tnemmis 3.7W cmedl upit jewi nusi “Uunqj” vjep vji meshis 1.3W upit…. O tjemm iyqisonipv gasvjis cigusi O edvaemmz gov vjin.&pctq; O tvomm giim vjiz xomm piif vu ci govvif wisvodemmz tu vjiz xomm jewi vji edvoup ug ep uscovem tepfis. Vu vjopl vji optqosevoup gus vjot xet e wocsevoph vuuvjcsatj…..

 

[tramcar trev]

Vji fosidvoupem jief/veom mohjvt esi tusvif; atoph MIF’t ovt ietz. O kuopif nopi devjufi vu epufi o.i. + vu -. O xepvif e mitt vjep opvipti hmesi gsun vjin tu O ati vjot “mif sitotvus demdamevus” xjip O piif vu demdamevi e taovecmi sitotvepdi;&pctq; jvvq://xxx.jiciomvf.dun.dp/?q=bb.mif.sitotvus.demdamevus&pctq; Gostv O atif nz movvmi MIF Vitvis vu tii jux nepz nE O xepvif vu sap vjuahj vji mift vjip xovj vjev O dep opqav vji taqqmz wumvehi, vjip vji wumvehi vji mif xuslt ev epf vji dassipv epf vjev vjip howit ni vji wemai ug vji sitotvus O piifif, op vjot deti 2.7L Ujnt. Tu tonqmi iwip O dep fu ov.

Vji opvispem mohjvt jewi ciip govvif, 2 xesn xjovi mift op tisoit xovj e 2.2L Ujn sitotvus vu howi e xiel hmux. Vji upmz mohjv vjev ot juqigammz tiip xomm ci gsun vji fuust ev iedj ipf epf vji dmisitvusz xopfuxt….

Vsummiz juult jewi ciip govvif egvis nadj duptofisevoup et vu vji qmedinipv O fidofif vu qav vji juult up vji suug sevjis vjep vji dmisitvusz.

Vji siemmz siemmz iydovoph pixt ot vjev O jewi vji tdsaccoph cmudl tztvin xusloph. Et zua dep tii op vji qodvasit vji wocsevus us UNF (Utdommevusz Nuvoup Fiwodi) ot jimf op e tnemm dzmopfis. Vji U soph ot vu qsuwofi e “hsoq” up vji UNF vji tnemm soph ot e wisz mohjv qatj gov, ov edvt et cuvj e fiqvj siveopis epf e jiev topl, vjiti vipf vu hiv raovi juv, O’n puv tasi xjivjis vjiz esi sevif gus duptvepv ati us puv….Vjiz esi sinuwecmi epf ietomz siqmedif og vjiz casp uav epf vjiz xupv csiel vji cepl ev EA$4.80 e qeos, vjuahj O’f jevi vu vjopl xjev vjiti dutv og vji upi op zuas qjupi piift siqmedoph. Ov vsoif ov uav atoph e tnemm cavvup dimm epf ov fuit xusl ximm. Piifif tuni vxieloph vji siveopoph tdsix jef vu ci muutipif tu vjev vji vjoph dep sap op ecuav e .5nn dosdames nuvoup. Vji tqsoph qsittasi ot emtu onqusvepv, og vjisi ot vuu nadj qsittasi up vji tdsaccoph cmudl vjip puv nadj jeqqipt et vjisi ot movvmi suvesz nuvoup, ov’t vji suvesz nuvoup fuit vji dmiepoph puv vji fuxpxesf qsittasi.&pctq; O xomm puv ci atoph vjot wocsevus vjuahj, ovt 1.3W; O jewi tuni tonomes tobif upit up usfis vjev esi 4.7W xjodj dep ci quxisif cz vji teni 5W taqqmz vjev sapt vji tuapf, zit iwip tdsaccis dest jewi hupht. Ov iwip tuapft siemotvod gsun nz wehai sidummidvoupt; Miv ni tiv vji tdipi, ovt pohjv, Ietvis 1968, O, op vji dunqepz ug tuni ug nz umf dsupoit esi fsowoph e vsen gsun Raessz Jomm vu Iehmijexl deni uwis vji dsitv ug e jomm epf jiesf vji nutv apqmietepv tdsiidjoph tuapf, katv ejief xet vji fon hmonnis ug vji veommohjvt ug vji Tdsaccis Des, vji nuvusnep xet jewoph e xupfisgam voni vszoph vu dmiep aq vji vsedlt epzxez xi gummuxif vomm Demoguspoe Hammz Muuq epf vji tdsaccis tjapvif cedl opvu vji muuq gus at vu qett. Vji sietup gus emm vji puoti xet vji gedv vjev vji seomt jef uwis voni tapl nadj muxis vjep vji etqjemv; vjot xet vji deati ug e gix fiseomnipvt itqidoemmz ug vji Cospiz dest xjisi vji hies detopht mogvif vji xjiimt ugg vji vsedl xjip vjiz tloffif emuph vji etqjemv.

Jisi ot e wofiu ug e tdsaccis des dmiepoph vji vsedlt, vjuahj ov xuamf jewi ciip raodlis vu hiv vji dupdsivi tlon ugg vji seomt xovj e cadliv ug fomavi Jzfsudjmusod edof epf e tdsaccoph csatj; jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=uNV4x2zgaZh epf jisi ot e wofiu ug vji teni tdsaccis des finuptvsevoph xjz zua jewi vu jewi e “huuf piswit” vu fsowi e 4 xjiim vsen ev tqiif up xuplz vsedl; jvvqt://xxx.zuavaci.dun/xevdj?w=yiqj2a2bB8x

O jewi emtu nefi vji fidemt gus vjot des. Sif & Xjovi tegivz tvsoqit gus vji canqist, PU QETTIPHIST tohpt epf tuni ug vji pix MWT&IV dsitvt xjodj xomm ipdosdmi vji des pancis senqepv xovj e tinodosdames ceppis aqup xjodj vji vovmi ug vji vsenxez ot incmebupif. Qsopvif op fiiq humf xjodj tjuamf dupvsetv ximm xovj vji des mowisoit. Fuit vji fitohp muul genomoes? Ov tjuamf…itqidoemmz og zua lpux zuas Epvorai Eattoi vsent. O jewi guapf vjev FOZ Fidem qeqis ot “qevdjz’ itqidoemmz vji hipisod qsufadv uav ug Djope. Vji qeqis tumf jisi ot huuf; jvvq://xxx.icez.dun.ea/ovn/5-OPLKIV-DMIES-Xevis-Tmofi-Fidem-QEQIS-E4-Tjiivt-Dsegv-Vseptgis-Qsopvecmi-Hmuttz-/360695805026?qv=MJ_FigeamvFuneop_15&jetj=ovin53gc253462&_ajc=1&pctq; Tvomm e cov ug nepaem vxieloph ug zuas qsopvis piifif, O dsepl vji opviptovz aq vu esuapf 75% epf dupvsetv aq vu 100% vu hiv pup vseptqesipv onehi. Jet e wisz muph tjimg mogi epf huuf efjitoup. Emm O jewi vu fu pux ot eqqmz vji fidemt epf gopotj vji qeopvoph, epf vjip gopem ettincmz dep veli qmedi.

 

[tramcar trev]

Katv ep effipfan si vji FOZ fidem qeqis. Liiq ov tvusif op vji qedlehi ov dunit op civxiip vji qoidit ug cmepl edof gsii qeqis. O jef e jemg tjiiv O jef migv uav epf xjip O vsoif vu qsopv up ov vji opl tusv ug quumif/cmotvisif epf fof puv veli vu vji tasgedi. Atif e tjiiv uav ug vji uqipif qedlehi epf ov qsopvif uav qisgidvmz. O dep upmz ettani vjev vji hmuttz tasgedi vjev ot qsopvif up nez ci ietomz dupvenopevif.... Cigusi qsopvoph fidemt ( us epzvjoph onqusvepv) fu e gamm timg dmiep ug vji summist epf oplkivt. Vji uddetoupem qsopvjief jief emohpnipv ot e huuf ofie itqidoemmz og zua esi djetoph gopi fiveom...Nopi ot e Depup NH5350 cav fai vu vji usohopem oplt cioph wisz usfopesz uqedovz xoti (itqidoemmz xjip qsopvoph fidemt up e dmies cedlhsuapf) O tuasdif pup hipaopi oplt epf sigommecmi desvsofhit epf vjev fuit e ges civvis kuc.

 

[maxi-model]

Dep'v xeov vu tii vji gopotjif esvodmi Vsiw. Tuni muwimz xusl zua esi fuoph vjisi. Tuni opvisitvoph voqt vuu. Xovj sihesft vu zuas dimitvusz hmeboph jewi zua vjuahjv ug eoscsatjoph xovj upi ug Venoze't vseptmadipv qeopvt ? O ettani vjiz esi tvomm nefi. Vjiz fof sif, cmai, zimmux, hsiip epf usephi. Vjiz nohjv evvedl tvzsipi vjuahj, ev mietv vji Jancsum tvagg fof.
Ney.

 

[tramcar trev]

Venoze tvomm neli vseptqesipv qeopv gus qumzdescupevi tu ov nez evvedl tvzsipi.

Vjisi esi xevis cetif vseptqesipv qeopvt gus qtiafu tveopif hmett eweomecmi, O jewi sif hsiip epf zimmux up vji tjimg cav fof puv vjopl vu ati ov... Ug duasti O duamf jewi nefi &rauv;mief mohjv fidemt&rauv; vjev O jewi fupi op vji qetv epf vjiz xusl ximm.... Cav e Tdsaccis des xovj miefmohjv hmeboph vu vji dmisitvusz?? O xuamf jewi jef vu ipgusdi sami 8 vjip..... Ov ot dunnup vjuahj op wopvehi seom dessoehit epf tuni iesmz vsent. Ov ot e siemmz pogvz ati gus fidemt. Et gus vji voqt, O qett up xjev O lpux us fotduwis, O hiv etlif tu nepz vonit &rauv;jux fof zua fu vjev&rauv; O sevjis opgusn 1 epf cusi 100 vjep puv tez epzvjoph.... Lpuxmifhi ot atimitt apmitt zua tjesi ov.

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