Help with LGB 50950/50750 stickers

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I have exhausted my sources for resolving what I consider to be a simple question and am hoping someone has an answer. I am installing three LGB 50950 control signals and related 50750 control boxes. Both the signals and the control boxes contain a set of stickers with the designations N1 - N4 and P1 - P4. Try as I might, I have not been able to discern what these designate. I contacted LGB/Marklin customer support and got the following response (below in italics). This response would be plausible if in fact:
  1. there were A and F letters but these do not appear on the sheet of stickers that I have and
  2. the fact that manual for the the signals mention entry or exit only with the double arm signal (LGB 50940).
I can make my own An - Fn stickers but would like to know if anyone has installed a 50940 and, if so, did the sticker have an An - Fn set of letters?

Thanks, Chuck

This marking of the signals differs according to era and railroad company. However, the letters A and F are often used for entry signals, while the letters N and P are used for exit signals. The Zshl behind them then indicates the track number at which this signal is located. The letter used also provides information about the direction. For example, the exit signals in the opposite direction have a different letter. For example, N1 would be the exit signal on track 1 in the southbound direction, while P1 is the exit signal on track 1 in the northbound direction.
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First, if I have understood correctly what you are wanting to do, I would ask why are you installing three signals and, apparently, three control boxes as each box can control up to four signals?

You say both the control boxes and signal boxes contain two sets of each sticker and this suggests that you can use them as you wish to identify different signals (or whatever the control boxes are used to control) and their related switch on the control box.
 
playmofire said:
First, if I have understood correctly what you are wanting to do, I would ask why are you installing three signals and, apparently, three control boxes as each box can control up to four signals?

You say both the control boxes and signal boxes contain two sets of each sticker and this suggests that you can use them as you wish to identify different signals (or whatever the control boxes are used to control) and their related switch on the control box.
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Thanks for the response. Sorry if I was not clear what I am doing. There are currently two signals, one each, on sperate lines which are an inner and outer loop that run parallel trains. There is a set of cross-over switches installed to allow for switching trains between the outer and inner loops. These signals, along with their associated switches, are connected to two control boxes, one signal and two switches to each of the two control boxes. If I want to switch the train running on the outer loop to the inner loop, I first set the "stop" setting on the inner loop signal so that that current train halts (just prior to the cross-over). This also "opens" the cross-over switches to route the outer loop train to the inner loop. Once the prior outer loop train clears the cross-over, and becomes the new inner loop train, I close the outer-to-inner loop switches, set in outer loop signal to stop, then open the inner-to-outer loop cross-over, to allow the previous inner loop train to proceed to the outer loop. I am planning to install two more signals, one on each line, so that a newly switched train will stop to ensure that the previous train on that line does not get rear-ended. Sometimes I get distracted and am not fast enough closing and opening. :( Other that this issue all the above works well. What I want to do is properly mark the signals and control box toggles with the proper sticker and could not discern what the Nn and Pn were for.

LGB/Marklin confirmed that the Nn and Pn stickers are for" exits" and An and Fn are for "entry". This, as I read in the installation instructions, would apply to the 50940 double armed form signal which I am not using currently. So my question was whether on not the stickers provided in that product contained the An and Fn for entry. What I'm trying to do is use the supplied stickers for what they were, hopefully, designed to indicate.

Thanks, Chuck
 
If you wish to get into German Signalling understanding you need to get your head into and out of is to think Track numbers and forget Inner and Outer loops.

As a rule German signalling relates to numbers starting from the Station Building which would be Track 1 then the next one Track 2 and so on. It can then start to get more complex as any visitor to a station in Germany may have found such as Track 11 being sometimes a track that may be a bay platform next to the Station Track 1, in effect it is Track 1-1. What happens when you get 11 or 12 tracks at a later rebuild can be a complex issue.

In your case you would appear to have only 2 tracks so not too much complexity. As for N and P, so far as I can see exit Signal have the N as being further along the Kilometre Richtung (Kilometre Post numbering) to exit going away from KR 1 heading towards KR 1 the exit Signals have P designation. If you do not have a Terminus Station this is irrelevant thus you coukd have N or P designations whichever end ofvthe Station you wish.

This link to German Signalling may be of interest to you. There are also a couple of interesting Bookzines from the German Railway Society well worth having.

German Railway Signals

German Railway Signalling
www.sh1.org
 
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