LGB 5093 - Does round sign move or is it fixed?

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Just purchased a LGB 5093 home signal on eBay. It has the moveable semaphore arm but the round yellow sign is fixed in place. Does that round sign flip up when triggered like the 5091(home signal without the semaphore) or is it fixed and the semaphore arm is the only piece that moves? Trying to figure out if it's broken or if it is working properly.

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SloopG
 
I believe it is fixed. I assume it is meant to show Vr2 (expect slow) and Vr0 (stop) not Vr1 (expect clear) which is the aspect where the disc is flipped. My bible for German signals is sh1.org, see this page:
Semaphore Signals
Scroll down to distant signals.
 
To quote LGB 5093 European Vr0/Vr1 Signal, Collection Item

European Vr0/Vr1 Signal by LGB , Collection Item.

European railways use a cautionary "distant signal" to alert the engineer that a mandatory "home signal" is coming soon. This electric signal model features both a moving sign board and changing lights to indicate "stop signal ahead" (Vr0) or "go signal ahead" (Vr1). Includes an EPL signal drive and 10150 track section for easy mounting. Use with 50920 or 50940. Height 230 mm.
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Thanks for the response. Believe what you are calling a 5093 in your link is really a 5091. The LGB 5093 is similar but includes a semaphore that moves.

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sloopG
 
The LGB 5094 two arm home signal can only indicate two aspects; Stop (Hp0) and Proceed Slow (Hp2). It is not capable of indicating Hp1, Proceed. Thus, the corresponding distant signal LGB No. 5093 also only shows those two aspects, Vr0 (disk facing train and arrow vertical and yellow over yellow) and Vr2 (disk facing train and arrow diagonal and lights green over yellow). The 5093 signal disk always remains facing the on-coming train.
 
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Thanks Phil

Very helpful. Is the LGB 5093 always pared with the 5094 (2 semaphore arm signal) and the 5091 distant signal paired with the 5092 (1 semaphore arm signal)? Is the 5093 or 5091 distant signal ever paired with the RhB 5095 signal?

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sloopG
 
RhB does not use distant signals like that. The yellow disc distant signals are German, main line, very rare if ever on narrow gauge. The red and white semaphores Hp0/1/2 can be found on German narrow gauge. RhB use colour light signals for distant signals. But it's your layout and if you want to mix German and Swiss signalling go for it. If your stock is mostly German and you want some degree of signalling realism stick to semaphores or use the Nebensignale fixed post signs (see sh1.org). These are also available from LGB and others.
 
Sloopg said:
Is the LGB 5093 always pared with the 5094 (2 semaphore arm signal) and the 5091 distant signal paired with the 5092 (1 semaphore arm signal)?
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That was LGB's original intent following the German prototype but as Dave and Rule 8 says - it's your railroad. Note that Märklin LGB no longer produces a 5093 equivalent to go with the 51940 which replaced the 5094.

Just to clarify a little more:

Vr0 means expect a Stop signal aspect, Hp0, ahead - be prepared to stop
Vr1 means expect a Proceed signal aspect, Hp1, ahead - full steam ahead
Vr2 means expect a Proceed Slowly signal aspect, Hp2, ahead - be prepared to slow and continue on slowly

The proceed slowly, Hp2, signal would typically be used when a turnout following the signal is set to cause a change of direction or track and the turnout needs to be negotiated at a slow speed.

Also, to follow up on what Dave mentioned, the speeds on German narrow gauge lines were seldom if ever fast enough to require distant (Vor) signals.

Edit added: I should have looked at the link Dave provided in Post #2 before adding this. Very informative Dave. Thanks!
 
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