LGB Smoker

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I Have an LGB Starter set (NLA) Route of the Beavers. I've opened the metal tab on its belly to activate the smoker but the stack has a screened cover at the top, I can't tell if its getting any fluid or how much to put in. All suggestions are appreciated. BTW, many THANX!! for all the comments helping me with my LGB Track Magnets!Beaver.jpg
 
Hello Jack,
Pop about five drops of smoke oil into the funnel for a start..

You will also find that you have to run quite fast (on analogue) to get decent amounts of smoke.

PhilP.
 
well, while indeed five will work and give max smoke, it will be short. It is my experience that as the unit is almost dry, the vaporization rate really increases. try fifteen drops. these units have a large basin. fwiw 15 is what lgb typically has recommended. this is now what i use and it avoids waste.

prolonged high voltage running even when properly filled may produce warping and or discoloration of the grate. this is simply the result of the hot smoke vapor over a period overheating the plastic. I have one stainz like this.

other than looks, no big deal.

one can , if they chose, carefully remove the grate, in part or whole, by...cutting. It seems i did this to one unit, for some reason. Doesn't look the best, imho, or is advisable for mis placed fingers. it does, slightly increase the perceived output.

they can actually hold a fair amount of fluid, like a full eye droppers worth. , however, there is a point when you can overfill them and they wont smoke at all. avoid this too, as prolonged running (like 5 minutes or so, when the entire basin liquid gets really really hot) at high voltage with a over filled unit can actually melt the stack, and or loosen the epoxy base seal. if you overfill, remove a bit. typically , if enough, you will see a wisp in a minute or so, and then as the volume slowly reduces and the heating chimney gets hotter (by not heating the surrounding liquid) smoke increases.
avoid allowing water into the funnel. if this happens, turn it over, and empty it, run it dry for a couple of minutes, and then refill. if there's water in the fluid, it wont smoke.
 
The only reason for suggesting five drops to start with, is we do not know the unit actually works..

The other thing to remember, is that if all the fluid has not been consumed, at the end of a run, then if the loco is to be returned to its box, the fluid needs to be drained and the residue mopped up as best can be..
Else it will make a mess of the box, and the loco..

PhilP
 
The only reason for suggesting five drops to start with, is we do not know the unit actually works..

The other thing to remember, is that if all the fluid has not been consumed, at the end of a run, then if the loco is to be returned to its box, the fluid needs to be drained and the residue mopped up as best can be..
Else it will make a mess of the box, and the loco..

PhilP
Yup the main reason that I never use the things.
 
LGB fluid will NOT mess up the engine. LGB sells the fluid as a smoke and cleaner fluid and states the fluid will bring back 'luster' to the paint. This is LGB fluid only, not other fluids available for other scales which can be used in lgb smoke units.
 
yes as to piko fluid

and yes, spilled LGB fluid will mess up the box, blue stains, and, as i recall on one box i got used.

and, fwiw
i use a 50-50 mix of tiki torch lamp oil and bbq lighter fluid.
it works quite well.
i have used this for over ten years. no ill effects on plastic or smoke units.
it does have a somewhat unpleasant odor, and i only use it outside.

from my long observation and use, i deem it safe.

i love smoke and always use them, the exception being some of my bachmann locos, from which smoke fluid seems to leak from the fluid basin in the units.

i too empty smoke units before i store locos

so, OP, does your smoke unit work?
 
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The only reason for suggesting five drops to start with, is we do not know the unit actually works..

The other thing to remember, is that if all the fluid has not been consumed, at the end of a run, then if the loco is to be returned to its box, the fluid needs to be drained and the residue mopped up as best can be..
Else it will make a mess of the box, and the loco..

PhilP
yes i seemed to have missed that......:blush:
 
Hello Jack,
Pop about five drops of smoke oil into the funnel for a start..

You will also find that you have to run quite fast (on analogue) to get decent amounts of smoke.

PhilP.
When you say "quite fast", do you mean full throttle? My layout is ceiling mounted? Thanx!
 
OK, So what constitutes a "drop", in measurement terms ? Been recently with recipes that use terms like, "cup", "tsp", etc' instead the usual gms or ml and having to look up conversions.. 0.05 ml is the pharmacists' measure, 20 drops to the ml. So what does5 drops/ 0.25 ml look like ? I ask this partly in jest but it does interest me as I am now making use of the smoke generators on my Bachmann locos. I find third/half filling that make's basins seems to do the trick. Max
 
Can you purchase an "eye dropper"?


There are rough estimates.... I actually measure the fluid capacity and dispense in ml using a hypodermic syringe. You have to experiment on the "boiler" type units since they do not work well if the reservoir is full. (Seuth type, Bachmann, old USA Trains, old Aristo)

With fan-driven units, you normally fill the reservoir just below full, so it does not spill when moving the loco.

Greg
 
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