Lionel G Scale Thomas - The Second Generation?

James Day

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I can remember this stuff from the 1990s and quality wise it was fairly nasty, (the hollow plate G Scale track was particularly horrible) although back then it had the market to itself. I liked the moving eyes and the interchangeable faces though.

Annie and Clarabel were rather over wide and when a chum brought his along to our layout they would strike all sorts of lineside objects that everything else missed. The troublesome trucks were just bogie gondolas with faces, but children loved it and I did half consider buying some, although my concerns over the quality won and I never did.

Anyway - My question is - Is it, or has it been back in production recently? The boxes certainly look up to date compared to those available in the 1990s. Lionel Thomas stuff once fetched huge prices on e-bay, but now they seem to be virtually giving it away - Look at this item
eBay item number:
141866326304


I appreciate that this particular item is second hand, but even the other G scale Lionel Thomas items marked new are not much more.

The main downside for us here in the UK is the postage, as this range is/was never allowed to be sold here!

The overall look is not that bad really, although nowhere near a good as what Bachmann have acheived, but the real clincher for me is the quality of the mechanisms, which I recall as being awful, certainly the first time round.

If anyone has any knowledge or experience of the second generation G Scale Lionel Thomas I would like to hear from them. Is this the same unmodified tooling and mechs as before, or have changes/improvements been made?

James

PS: I love the figures that they include though and have already bought a few to go in my Bachmann locos!

 
I may well be wrong but I don't think they've been made since the early 2000s? The following link says the last calalog they featured in was 2003? http://www.lionel.com/products/ls-thomas-the-tank-engine-set-8-81027/

I've seen track offered for sale with yellow sleepers, but not sure if it was "proper" brass or hollow like the old Bachmann & Keystone stuff
[edit]Looking at piccies on the net, it was hollow stuff[/edit]
 
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