Massoth Sound problem - Stumped

Slawman

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Well I am well and truly stumped on this one. I have a new XLS decoder, 4.2 firmware everything working flawlessly aside from the growling sound when the loco slows. I have tried every obvious setting to no avail. I have had a suggestion that this is called "coasting mode" but can find no reference to that terminology anywhere. This clip you can hear the 'growling" sound and the chuff stopping for a few second as the loco slows until eventually the brakes squeal comes on:


Any ideas?
 
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Slawman said:
Well I am well and truly stumped on this one. I have a new XLS decoder, 4.2 firmware everything working flawlessly aside from the growling sound when the loco slows. I have tried every obvious setting to no avail. I have has a suggestion that this is called "coasting mode" but can find no reference to that terminology anywhere. This clip you can hear the 'growling" sound and the chuff stopping for a few second as the loco slows until eventually the brakes squeal comes on:


Any ideas?
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That is not growling it is steam leaking/steam coasting sound when steam turned off. Quite normal. Listen to some clips of the real thing slowing down to stop.
 
Quite normal. When you back off the 'regulator', the engine will coast as steam is not driving the pistons.

All my larger sound fitted steam locos have this feature....
 
It is deactivated via CV 149, load dependant sound….:

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Interesting, my decoder has a load dependent sound that makes it louder under load, and coasting is separate.

Many people don't like the quietness of coasting even though it is prototypical... I'm able to program the decoder to "bark" under heavy acceleration but not make it quiet under coasting / drifting...

Greg
 
Greg Elmassian said:
Interesting, my decoder has a load dependent sound that makes it louder under load, and coasting is separate.

Many people don't like the quietness of coasting even though it is prototypical... I'm able to program the decoder to "bark" under heavy acceleration but not make it quiet under coasting / drifting...

Greg
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I don’t like the coasting, it sounds weird to me. It isn’t silent either, it sounds more like a speaker distortion to my ear…..
 
dunnyrail said:
Hm really, but that is likely to deactivate extra sound on starting with a load?
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Possibly, but if Slawman does not like the coasting..
CV149 is bit-wise, so you can mix and match the effects you want.

PhilP
 
dunnyrail said:
Hm really, but that is likely to deactivate extra sound on starting with a load?
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I haven't noticed any change aside from the growling/coasting stopping. I have not had time to do much more playing but will do that on the weekend and report back any findings. Thanks for everyone's input.
 
PhilP said:
Possibly, but if Slawman does not like the coasting..
CV149 is bit-wise, so you can mix and match the effects you want.

PhilP
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PhilP - Have you actually been able to turn off the coasting effect with the CV149 settings? I've never tried to eliminate it and actually like it since it is prototypical of real steam engines. All the Massoth steamer sound files I've ever loaded have this as a default feature. The ESU LokSound 5 series and at some of the newer LGB locomotives produced by Marklin with their MSD3 mfx/dcc/dc sound decoders also have this as a default feature. I did try using a clock generator instead of the electronic steam chuff when I installed an ESU 5XL sound decoder three years ago into an LGB Forney steamer and the clock generator did not produce the coasting feature......there may have been some CV adjust that would allow it but I instead decided to just use the electronic chuff.
 
Slawman, the first time I experienced the coasting sound was on a newer LGB Loco with factory equipped MFX. I thought I had a defective decoder and did not like it either. Then I got another MFX equiped locomotive. Same thing. After a few months of playing solely with MFX, I ran one of my older LGB with an older massoth equiped decoder and absolutly missed the coasting sound. It grew on me and now I find I prefer it over the non-coasting. Give it a try for a while.
 
R. Wolfe said:
Slawman, the first time I experienced the coasting sound was on a newer LGB Loco with factory equipped MFX. I thought I had a defective decoder and did not like it either. Then I got another MFX equiped locomotive. Same thing. After a few months of playing solely with MFX, I ran one of my older LGB with an older massoth equiped decoder and absolutly missed the coasting sound. It grew on me and now I find I prefer it over the non-coasting. Give it a try for a while.
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Agreed it is what the real thing does when regulator shut off, I fail to understand why the need is there to shut it off or dislike it. Probably insufficient exposure to the real thing, but then each to his own rule 1 and all that.
 
Yes, it just doesn't sound like the model steam locomotives I was used to playing with. I had to listen to some real steam locomotives to discover it was prototypical. Would be nice to have the option to disable it. But also remember the sounds are actual recordings from real locomotives and not fake electronicl sounds anymore. Nice chatting with you. Enjoy!
 
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