Opinion (another) please.

That's a Newqida wagon, Sarah - a Chinese copy of an LGB wagon, made with much cheaper plastics than LGB uses.
Having said that, the Newqida stock (sometimes also known by the "Train" brand) can provide excellent low-cost items for repaints and conversions, there have been many really great looking pieces of stock created from them - and even as they come, they are perfectly OK just to run as-is, though they benefit greatly from the addition of metal wheels.
Just be aware of what you're getting, and that (to a large extent) "you get what you pay for".....

Jon.
 
Second that above post. I have only gotten experience of remodelling a couple of Newqida passenger cars, and had the article about them featured in a well-known monthly LS magazine a few years back.

I changed out the wheels for finer Liliput items, and the couplings for Accucraft, bought a little LGB diesel of *-bay, and had myself the only LS NG Hungarian trainset on the planet for less than £100.

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Yep, they are very good value. I am painting 12 tank cars at the moment which should help them last a bit longer.
The Newqida/Train brand offers the following cars:

2 axle tank car similar to the LGB one
2 axle Swiss box van similar to the LGB one
Boxed pairs of 4 axle low sided gondolas similar to the LGB one
4 axle 7 window Saxon/Rugen Reko coach with Heberlein rope brakes
4 axle 7 window Harz coach
4 axle open observation cars
 
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Paradise said:
Yep, they are very good value. I am painting 12 tank cars at the moment which should help them last a bit longer.
The Newqida/Train brand offers the following cars:

2 axle tank car similar to the LGB one
2 axle German van similar to the LGB one
Boxed pairs of 4 axle low sided gondolas similar to the LGB one
4 axle 7 window Saxon/Rugen Reko coach with Heberlein rope brakes
4 axle 7 window Harz coach
4 axle open observation cars
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Not wanting to nitpick (who, me...?), I think the box van is actually a copy of an LGB SWISS (RhB) type, not a German one. :)
Not that it matters if you're running a Rule Eight railway of course!

Jon.
 
Thanks Jon. So it is. I was pondering on that one.
I actually nearly forgot it even though I have 5 of them. :)
 
I run a half a dozen Newqida items, somewhat heavily bashed and with metal wheels. As others have said, good value provided you understand what you are paying for and that is not LGB, Piko or Bachmann quality
 
A bit of an aside to the main question but here goes. Most people recommend buying metal wheels for the Newqida stock and yet all LGB stock seems to come with plastic wheels. Why doesn't there appear to be the same recommendation for LGB stock? I have metal wheels on almost all my rolling stock because I think the weight makes for more reliable running and they sound good. Others say they help to keep the track clean which may well be the case. But I wonder why whenever Newqida is mentioned changing to metal wheels is recommended but the same doesn't apply when LGB stock is mentioned? I don't have any Newqida items at all and very little LGB so I don't know why this should be.
 
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A bit of an aside to the main question but here goes. Most people recommend buying metal wheels for the Newqida stock and yet all LGB stock seems to come with plastic wheels. Why doesn't there appear to be the same recommendation for LGB stock? I have metal wheels on almost all my rolling stock because I think the weight makes for more reliable running and they sound good. Others say they help to keep the track clean which may well be the case. But I wonder why whenever Newqida is mentioned changing to metal wheels is recommended but the same doesn't apply when LGB stock is mentioned? I don't have any Newqida items at all and very little LGB so I don't know why this should be.
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As a rule LGB rolling stock will be much heavier due to the better quality plastic used. However the recommendation to change to metal wheels is sound advice for all makes in my view. I have converted all of my stock thus many years ago useing Backman Wheels for value or LGB if I could get them at a sensible price. Surprising how many sell off LGB Metal Wheels at shows at knock down prices. Also many second hand vehicles with metal wheels even LGB wheels tend not to command the up pricing that they deserve.
 
LGB plastic is denser, the moldings probably a little thicker and the axles made from metal making the cars a little heavier than the Newqida stock.
Newqida plastic feels brittle like a cheap plastic clothes peg. Same goes for the Bachmann Spectrum range of cars compared to Accucraft cars.
Cheap Chinese products skimp a little here and skimp a little there to keep the price down for the budget consumer. You only get what you pay for.
 
I agree, metal wheels are always better and all my stock has them. Mind you, I live in a place where the track temperature regularly gets up to around 75 degrees celsius, so say 170 Fahrenheit, and I’m not sure long plastic would last at those temperatures. Metal seems to cope fine, although I do have to watch the lubrication.
 
LGB stock runs OK on the plastic wheels, but the metal ones run and sound nicer (a better "clickety-clack"), and I think they help to keep the track a little cleaner too..... interestingly Marklin now seem to be supplying ALL new LGB releases with metal wheels, which in my opinion is something that LGB should have done years (decades?) ago......
As others have said above, LGB stock is generally heavier and more solid than the Newqida/Train copies anyway, due to the much better plastics, which is why the NQ cheapies seem to benefit even more from swapping to metal wheelsets. On NQ stock I use a lot of Bachmann/Liliput metal wheels as they are significantly cheaper, keeping my limited stock of the much nicer LGB ones for more "special" items.
I have a half-dozen NQ tank cars in a rather nice satin black finish, and a rake of their green Saxon coaches which I tend to run with my couple of live steamies, because I don't mind the NQ coaches getting grubby, oily and even a little bit melted should anything go wrong, something I wouldn't wish on my much nicer and more expensive LGB Saxon coach stock!

Jon.
 
Adding metal wheels to the Newqida rolling stock is an easy way to add weight to help stabilize them and to reduce derailments and woble. They are much lighter than most. But can run good stock also, it depends on your layout they can be finicky on uneven track and points.
 
Mike Whitcomb said:
Adding metal wheels to the Newqida rolling stock is an easy way to add weight to help stabilize them and to reduce derailments and woble. They are much lighter than most. But can run good stock also, it depends on your layout they can be finicky on uneven track and points.
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Yup. I got the last eight from our Sandy up on Stirrrrrrrling to put on my Hungarian Newqida conversions. Wisht I could get more of them.

tac
 
spoz said:
I agree, metal wheels are always better and all my stock has them. Mind you, I live in a place where the track temperature regularly gets up to around 75 degrees celsius, so say 170 Fahrenheit, and I’m not sure long plastic would last at those temperatures. Metal seems to cope fine, although I do have to watch the lubrication.
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That's a bit hot! How do you manage tour do anything in that heat?
 
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