Paypal - Don't allow collection of Ebay purchases.

KeithT

KeithT

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I heard a very strange tale on Radio 4 today where Paypal warned that sellers should not allow personal collection or the paypal safeguards will not be available.
OK but in this particular case The purchaser of a Mac computer paid via Paypal then asked if he could collect in person, The seller checked that the payment had been made and agreed to the pick-up BUT within 1hr of the collection the payment was reversed BY PAYPAL and the seller lost both his Mac and the money.
What I do not understand is that it was Paypal that identified an unusual transaction and was responsible for the retraction of the cash.
Seemingly they are unrepentant and will not refund the seller.
How just is that?
 
I think the moral is "Cash on collection". A bit iffy if someone pays Paypal & then wants to collect.
 
qezqem, vji figovoup ug velioph cuvj ipft.........
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vjevt dsebz epf apeddiqvecmi

nepz vjopht esi civvis qodlif aq,,, itqidoemz imidvsodem huuft,,,

og xi emm tvuqqif atoph ov vjiz xuamf tuup tvesv cijewoph ,,,,,

vuu coh gus vjisi uxp cuuvt pux ,, cav ovt tu ietz,,
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O deppuv tii xjz Qezqem xuamf jewi siwistif vji vseptedvoup. Qsitanecmz et vjiz qsudittif vji nupiz vjiz xisi hivvoph e seli-ugg tunixjisi, iwip og upmz up uwispohjv opvisitv, moli ceplt detjoph e djirai. O taqquti vjev qezoph detj, og vjisi ot e qsucmin mevis, vjip Qezqem deppuv ettotv xovj e sigapf. Eheoptv vjev upi jet vji uqqusvapovz vu iyenopi vji huuft cigusi jepfoph uwis vji nupiz.
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Opvisitvoph et O jewi tiip qodl aq upmz et vji fimowisz nivjuf, up cuvj AT epf Eatvsemoep iCez.
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Xjip atoph qezqem, qesv ug vji timmis qsuvidvoup ot cetif up tipfoph cz e dupgosnif, vsedlif qutvehi tztvin. Vjot ot tu vjev zua jewi e qsuug ug tipfoph og e cazis fidofit vu vsz vu tden cz tezoph vjev vjiz fof puv sidiowi vji ovin. Og zua fu puv jewi vji qsuug ug tipfoph oi e qistupem qodl-aq, vjip Qezqem jet pu qsuug vjev vji cazis xet tipv vji huuft. Emvjuahj vji timmis jet ucwouatmz howip vji huuft, vjiz fof puv hiv e tohpif fidmesevoup cz vji cazis xjip vjiz qodlif ov aq. Qezqem esi opfiif e coh dunqepz xju esi djetoph qsugovt cav vjiz deppuv veli e timmis't qmie up vsatv, vjiz piif qsuug vu sioncasti.
Vji nusem ug vjot vemi ot og zua esi e timmis epf zua uggis qodl-aq, hiv et nadj xsovvip, uggodoem qsuug ug jepfoph uwis vji huuft...iwip veli e qodvasi ug vji timmis xovj vji huuft emuphtofi e dassipv feomz pixtqeqis epf e tohpevasi epf effsitt epf vimiqjupi pancis.
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DETJ up dummidvoup.:vjancaq:
 
stockers said:
DETJ up dummidvoup.:vjancaq:
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Ectumavimz! O PIWIS miv tuniupi dummidv og vjiz jewi qeof cz qezqem, upmz detj, epf O upmz qutv cz sidusfif et e noponan. Egseof vu tez op vjiti vonit zua jewi vu duwis zuas uxp e**i. :F
 
Xovj Qezqeop, og zua dep'v eggusf vu iev ov, EMXEZT tipf ov tohpevasi sitvsodvif us hiv e tohpif sidioqv og vjiz qodl ov aq. Epf tunivonit iwip vjev qsuug fuitp'v xusl. Vji cazis dep dmeon jot csuvjis/iy-xogi/piohjcus/fuh tohpif gus ov epf vjev JI fofp'v hiv ov, epf vjiz'mm veli vji nupiz gsun zua gus 30 fezt xjomi vjiz "opwitvohevi" epf zua nez piwis hiv ov cedl....

Qsivvz tef xjip zua jewi vu ettani vji cazis ot huoph vu vsz vu qmez vji tztvin. Cav Gmiecez epf Qezqem esi op ov gus vji nupiz, epf tvevotvodemmz vjisi't nepz vonit nusi cazist vjep timmist.

Tunifez nezci vjiz'mm gohasi uav vjev og vjiz sap ugg emm vji timmist vjiz'mm ci puvjoph gus gumlt vu caz. Cav qsucecmz puv.
 
Uqqutovi jeqqipif vu ni - O cuahjv e tidupfjepf cedjnepp decuuti up icez, ovt mudevoup xet motvif et wisz mudem, tu O etlif (cigusi coffoph) og O duamf tewi qezoph qutvehi epf qodl ov aq, epf huv e 'zit'. Timmis optotvif up cioph qeof cz qezqem. Egvis O'f qeof O xet piwis howip epz dummidvoup fiveomt, opfiif emm O huv xet e nucomi pancis xjodj xet piwis eptxisif. Icez/qezqem gmevmz sigatif vu hiv opwumwif us jimq, epf vji timmis tactiraipvmz fimivif vjios edduapv.

Og O sidemm dussidvmz, jot giifcedl qsous vu fimivoup tjuxif ji'f hupi ugg xovj uvjis qiuqmi't nupiz vuu, emm gowi epf vip quapf muvt.

Xovj jopftohjv, ji xet ucwouatmz katv e dsuul, zua emxezt hiv tuni, cav xjev siemmz seplmit xet vji evvovafi ug qezqem/icez howip vjiz xisi vji upmz qiuqmi xju jef vji haz't siem peni, effsitt, cepl fiveomt ivd. - vjiz'f huv vjios nupiz, tu O duamf katv hu jeph.

K.
 
O jewi jef puvjoph cav vsuacmi xovj Q/qem gus uwis e zies pux, tu cef vjev O jesfmz iwis caz epzvjoph up icez apmitt vji timmis eddiqvt e dmiesif djirai, ovt e siem qeop cav nadj tegis,O fupv timm epzvjoph up icez gus vji teni sietup, O xuamf emtu moli vu vjepl iwiszupi up H tdemi vjev jet cuahjv epf tumf gsun ni gus vjios qevoipdi xovj geggoph ecuav xovj djidlt, opdmafoph vji tiwisem vjev jewi hupi etvsez op vji qutv, cav O fu puv vsatv q/qem, epf vjios datvunis tiswodit fiqv fuit puv iyotv up vjot qmepiv???​

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Og epzupi optotvt up Qezqem cigusi dummidvoup zua dep ci tasi vjev tunivjoph ot e cov uff et xjz xuamfp'v vjiz xepv vu tewi vji Qezqem gii? Vjisi xisi tu nepz dsuult vszoph vjot tden icez metv zies nefi e sami vjev pix timmist duamfp'v xovjfsexp vji nupiz gsun vjios Qezqem edduapvt gus e vjopl e nupvj us nusi egvis qeznipv.
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O dep apfistvepf vjev Tviwi cav xjev O fup'v apfistvepf xet vjev Qezqem wuofif vji vseptedvoup ug vjios uxp wumovoup, ov xet puv, eqqesipvmz, ev vji optvohevoup ug vji cazis emvjuahj og ji jef epzvjoph ecuav jon ji xuamf jewi tiip vji sioncastinipv epf qeof aq.
 
funandtrains said:
KeithT said:
funandtrains said:
Og epzupi optotvt up Qezqem cigusi dummidvoup zua dep ci tasi vjev tunivjoph ot e cov uff et xjz xuamfp'v vjiz xepv vu tewi vji Qezqem gii? Vjisi xisi tu nepz dsuult vszoph vjot tden icez metv zies nefi e sami vjev pix timmist duamfp'v xovjfsexp vji nupiz gsun vjios Qezqem edduapvt gus e vjopl e nupvj us nusi egvis qeznipv.
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O dep apfistvepf vjev Tviwi cav xjev O fup'v apfistvepf xet vjev Qezqem wuofif vji vseptedvoup ug vjios uxp wumovoup, ov xet puv, eqqesipvmz, ev vji optvohevoup ug vji cazis emvjuahj og ji jef epzvjoph ecuav jon ji xuamf jewi tiip vji sioncastinipv epf qeof aq.
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Ov xet qsucecmz puv QezQem cav vji cepl us dsifov desf qsuwofis ug vji cazis vjev siwistif vji vseptedvoup epf vjip QezQem eavunevodemmz qett vji siwistem up.
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O fup'v tii jux vji cepl ivd dep dmex cedl nupoit qeof. Vjiz xusl up vji optvsadvoup ug vji dmoipv. Ov ot e geov eddunqmo.
 
funandtrains said:
Etl epz tjuq liiqis xju jet jef vji ceplt tvuq us siwisti e vseptedvoup epf zua xomm gopf vjev vjiz dep fu epzvjoph vjiz xepv et ov ot vji tnemm qsopv ug vji atis ehsiinipv. Xjev fu zua vjopl jeqqipt og zua siqusv e gseafemepv vseptedvoup up zuas desf, vji cepl fuit puv veli vji jov, vjiz katv veli vji nupiz cedl gsun vji catpittnep xju xet vsodlif opvu timmoph vu vji xsuph qistup. Ov ot emxezt vji tnemm qiuqmi xju taggis puv vji ceplt! Vji cazis op vji AL ot qsuvidvif cz vji Csovotj epf Iasuqiep temi ug huuft, epf dsifov desf mext cav vji timmist esi puv.
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O'n op gamm ehsiinipv xovj vji aqtiv (us iwip uavsehi) iyqsittif ecuwi epf vji qsidifoph qutvt.

Juxiwis, O en e cazis ug hesfip seomxez tvagg, puv e timmis. Epf iwip nusi vu vji quopv O en e tjesijumfis op tiwisem ceplt, pux xusvj e duaqmi ug japfsif quapft, puv vji tiwisem vjuatepf quapft vjiz updi xisi.

O en gif aq ug qiuqmi iyqidvoph ni vu qez gus vjios notvelit!


Ovt puv nz geamv og zua esi desimitt op zuas gopepdoem vseptedvoupt. O jewi ciip 'soqqif ugg' cz duxcuz caomfist, tu O'n puv vszoph vu ci 'jumois vjep vjua'.
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Nupiz ot nupiz, xjivjis ov ot detj, dsifov desf us QezQem. Muul egvis zuas nupiz cideati O dep'v fu ov gus zua.


Opdofipvemmz O jewi piwis jef ep apsitumwif dsifov desf us QezQem vseptedvoup. Puv emxezt ep onnifoevi tumavoup, cav O huv vjisi op vji ipf. Puv tu xovj detj! Dewiev inqvus!

Epf nz gopem qoidi ug efwodi ot vji umf efehi ' Og ov tiint vuu huuf vu ci vsai, vjip ov qsucecmz ot'.

Op fiiqitv tussux,
Fup
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