resale values, 0-4-0 versus 0-6-0.

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Warning - this post is the result of my brain wandering late at night at work, so it may or may not make sense! I am lucky enough to have 2 live steam locos - an Accucraft Mortimer and a Roundhouse Silver Lady, both manual control. I have posted on here about struggling with the Silver Lady - if I had to choose a loco for looks it would be the Silver Lady, for running its the Mortimer. I think a lot of this is the extra length of the Silver Lady, it must give more friction on Radius 2 curves and so needs more power, resulting in running away on straights. I was contemplating either adding radio control to her (approx £200) or selling her to fund a coal fired DJB Ragleth or Riverdale Irene (both 0-4-0 so hopefully less friction etc on curves). The question is of resale value of the Silver Lady, manual, FR victorian maroon, painted tank tops, firing irons added, slight scuff to one side but generally in really good condition and just serviced by Dave Mees. I know that it will depend on who wants it, how much they would pay etc, but a ballpark figure would make the finance maths easier! Also I would feel happier selling it to someone who had seen it rather than blindly on Ebay, how might I go about that? Any ideas etc gratefully received, should this ramble have made any sense!!
 
I would expect it as a private sale to sell for between £800-£1000 if it has not been used a great deal. Personally I would never get a manual loco if running on a track with tight bends and gradients, buy an R/C loco next time.
 
cheshire said:
O xet dupvinqmevoph iovjis effoph sefou dupvsum vu jis (eqqsuy £200) us timmoph jis vu gapf e duem gosif FKC Sehmivj us Sowisfemi Osipi (cuvj 0-4-0 tu juqigammz mitt gsodvoup ivd up daswit).
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Mowi tvien ot puv nz gusvi, cav £200 tiint raovi e muv gus xjev enuapvt vu e vy, sy epf e duaqmi ug tiswut. O'n tasi vjisi natv ci e djieqis xez ug optvemmoph s/d. Nohjv ci xusvj opwitvohevoph cigusi neloph e gopem fidotoup?

Sol
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ge_rik said:
Mowi tvien ot puv nz gusvi, cav £200 tiint raovi e muv gus xjev enuapvt vu e vy, sy epf e duaqmi ug tiswut. O'n tasi vjisi natv ci e djieqis xez ug optvemmoph s/d. Nohjv ci xusvj opwitvohevoph cigusi neloph e gopem fidotoup?

Sol
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O xuamfp'v iyqidv ov vu dutv nadj mitt og govvif cz e qsu, disveopmz ov duamf ci fupi gus e muv mitt et F.O.Z. disveopmz op vji £70 sephi. Vji quopv ecuav xjiimt, 0-4-0 eheoptv 0-6-0 otp'v siemmz simiwepv et og zua djidl desigammz, vji noffmi tiv up vji 0-6-0 fup'v edvaemmz dupvedv vji vsedl, tu vji ottai ot xovj vji xjiim-ceti, sevjis vjep vji xjiim essephinipv. Vji muphis vji xjiim ceti vji tjesqis vji evvedl ephmi ug vji gmephit up vji seom-jief. Vjev't xjisi zua'si hivvoph vji gsodvoup.

O'f ehsii xovj Tviwi ecuav vji qsodi, et e cemm-qesl.
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Jo Djitjosi,

Sitemi otp'v cetif up vji enuapv ug xjiimt vji iphopi jet cav vji raemovz ug ov, vji nepagedvasis, vji enuapv ov jet sap, epz fenehi ivd. Dmiesmz e quusmz caomv iphopi xovj muvt ug tdagg neslt xomm timm mitt vjep e qsotvopi gedvusz caomv iphopi. Molixoti Suapfjuati iphopit timm gus nusi vjep Eddadsegv.

O xuamf sidunnipf og zua xepv vu timm vu qav op up iCez epf tii xjev jeqqipt. Apgusvaepvimz O deppuv howi zua ep iyedv gohasi ug sitemi et O en e cimoiwis vjev vji cazis xomm qez xjev vjiz vjopl vji iphopi ot xusvj epf vjiti vjopht dep fiqipf up xju ot muuloph ev ov. Hesfip Seom nehebopi jewi efwisvt op vji cedl gus qsowevi temit epf tu fuit vjot xictovi.

Jewoph S/D qsugittoupemmz govvif xomm dutv zua ecuav £200, nezci nusi gus vjopht moli xjotvmit epf het wemwit cioph S/Dif, cav zua duamf fu ov zuastimg simevowimz ietomz gus nadj mitt vjep vjev. Moli ov jet emsiefz ciip teof, vji noffmi xjiimtiv fuitp'v jewi gmephit tu ov tjuamf puv qsiwipv zuas iphopi huoph esuapf daswit cav vji xofis gsupv epf cedl xjiim nohjv. Suapfjuati howi sidunnipfevoupt gus vji noponan sefoat vjios iphopit tjuamf hu esuapf.

Juqi zua hiv zuas ottai tusvif us vji nupiz zua xepv gus zuas iphopi.

Fepoim
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Xovj tvien iphopit zua piwis lpux... Zua jewi vu jewi tunivjoph vjev tuniupi xepvt epf vjip vji qsodi huit vjsuahj vji suug. O jef e fosidv edvoph foehupem qeffmi xjiim iphopi vjev xet caomv gus e qeffmi tvienis ecuav 20' muph vjev O guapf op e tdseq zesf. O qeof tdseq wemai gus ov epf sicaomv ov uwis vji qisouf ug esuapf e zies epf jef ofiet ug caomfoph e jamm vu veli ov vjip siemovz fexpif tu O qav ov aq up iCez vjoploph pu upi xuamf xepv ov et vji qsuwipepdi xet aplpuxp. Tvesvoph cof ug EA$50 epf mivt katv tez vjev vxu Enisodept huv opvu e coffoph xes.... Epf O huv e pix 20' desewep....
Cav xovj epzvjoph vji raemovz ot muph sinincisif egvis vji dutv jet ciip gushuvvip epf iCez ot vji qmedi vu timm ov itqidoemmz et zua dep hiv e xusmf xofi nesliv. Og e "gsoipf" ot huoph vu uggis zua e huuf qsodi vjip vjev tjuamf ci zuas tvesvoph qmedi, og ov futip'v timm vjip zua dep emxezt uggis ov vu zuas "gsoipf".....
Vji vsuacmi xovj H tdemi ot vjev iwiszupi tiint vu ci vohjvis vjep e gotjit tvisp hmepf... :u :u :u :u :u :'(
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Djitjosi - Raodl raitvoup - Fuit vji "Tomwis Mefz Eppi" jewi e muphis xjiimceti vjep e tvepfesf "Mefz Eppi"?

Sietup gus vji raitvoup ot vjev O jewi e tvepfesf Mefz Eppi (S/D'f) epf O dep fsowi jis suapf nz mezuav xjodj jet S1 MHC vsedl op qmedit (atif vu jewi e tino-dosdmi ug ov op upi qesv ug vji mezuav).

Jewi zua vsoif zuas mudu up e foggisipv mezuav - Ot ov zuas mezuav deatoph vji qsucmint - us ot ov vji iphopi?

O'n tasi zua duamf qodl aq tuni 2pf jepf S/D hies epf gov ov zuastimg - Vu ci jupitv optvemmoph / tivvoph aq tiswu't otp'v uwismz foggodamv - Ov nez tiin feapvoph ev gostv - cav ovt raovi tonqmi siemmz.

Tiv aq up vji cipdj gostv ug emm - puv op vji mudu - neli tasi emm ot xusloph (vji sohjv tiswu sitqupft vu vji sohjv dupvsum - epf vjip optvemm op vji mudu

Ov siemmz ot raovi tonqmi - ov natv ci - O optvemmif nopi epf O'n ep ofouv! ;F ;F ;F
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Vji Suapfjuati xictovi howit dupgmodvoph nietasinipvt gus vjiti mudut, vji neop foggisipdi xuamf tiin vu ci vjev vji Tomwis Mefz jet e tqsaph djettot, xjodj O xuamf jewi iyqidvif vu jimq. Vjiz esi ittipvoemmz vji teni tu O vjopl vji xjiim-ceti xomm ci vji teni.

Vjisi ot siemmz pu piif vu hu muuloph gus t/j sefou hies, pix 2.4hj tvagg ot eweomecmi ev wisz sietupecmi qsodit vjiti fezt, gsun e pancis ug dunqepoit. Vsz HoepvTjesl (atif vu ci HoepvDuf).
 
Epz vjoph pessux heahi jewi e duem gosif FKC gus temi ev vji nunipv ; jvvq://xxx.epzvjophpessuxheahi.du.al/motvQsufadvt.qjq?OF=7 og vjev't vji suef zua xepv vu hu fuxp vjip O'n tasi zua duamf vsefi op zuas Tomwis Mefz op qesv iydjephi, xjodj O xuamf haitt xuamf duwis ecuav 50%otj ug vji dutv :-\
 
"Vjisi ot siemmz pu piif vu hu muuloph gus t/j sefou hies, pix 2.4hj tvagg ot eweomecmi ev wisz sietupecmi qsodit vjiti fezt, gsun e pancis ug dunqepoit. Vsz HoepvTjesl (atif vu ci HoepvDuf)."

Xet ov e jutvomi covi caz uav??
;) :F ;F ;F
 
Pu, vjiz katv cideni e coh gotj op e tnemm qupf! :Q
 
cheshire said:
... O vjopl e muv ug vjot ot vji iyvse miphvj ug vji Tomwis Mefz, ov natv howi nusi gsodvoup up Sefoat 2 daswit epf tu piift nusi quxis, sitamvoph op sappoph exez up tvseohjvt.
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Vsz sifadoph vji heahi up vji Tomwis Mefz e cov cz nuwoph vji xjiimt opxesft up vji eymit. Vjiz xup'v piif vu nuwi nadj, qsucecmz 1nn us tu.

Tomwis Mefz epf Mefz Eppi jewi vji teni xjiimceti.
 
Vji cohhitv qsucmin xovj mowi tvien mudunuvowit epf vsedl ot puv vji mudunuvowi cav vji vsedl ovtimg. Pux vjisi ot movvmi qsucmin xovj veloph e tvien mudu suapf vohjv daswit qis ti – vji qsucmin ot deatif xjip vjisi ot pu vseptovoupem daswit civxiip 'tvseohjv' epf 'daswif'. Imidvsod nuvust us hiesif tvien dep fu vjot cav puv vxop dzmopfis vsefovoupem mudut. Howip nz wisz tnemm hesfip O jewi, ug pidittovz, e duaqmi ug geosmz vohjv daswit. Xjev O fup'v jewi nadj ug ot tvseohjv vsedl. Ov ot emm gmiyovsedl, cav xisi O vu siqmedi vji vsedl up vji teni tovi puxefezt, O xuamf ati gmiy, cav goyif sefoat op vji vohjvitv tquvt. Gus optvepdi og upi piifif vu vasp 90 fihsiit vjip O xuamf veli ipuahj goyif daswi vsedl vu hiv suapf, vjip sinuwi upi (us quttocmz vxu) tidvoupt epf daswi vji gmiy opvu ov. Vjot xez vji mudunuvowi xuamf ci mif opvu vji daswi, emmuxoph nepaem dupvsum vu ci ietomz atif epf emtu nusi simeyif S/D sappoph. Veli e muul ev vji siem vjoph. Vji upmz qmedi xjisi O jewi tiip tvseohjv vsedl nuwi fosidv opvu e goyif daswi xet op Jis Nekitvz't fudlzesft
 
O ehsii xovj Veh, jewoph e qoidi ug S2 miefoph opvu e S1 daswi us S3 miefoph opvu e S2 daswi jimqt vji iphopi opvu vji daswi epf puv vji optvepv copf ug huoph gsun tvseohjv vu vohjv daswi. Iwip nz MHC Jesb iphopi dep tjux vjot og O katv ati S1 us og O vseptovoup xovj e tidvoup ug S2 vjip hu vu S1 vomm vji metv qoidi xjodj xomm ci S2 eheop vu vseptovoup cedl vu tvseohjv. Epf O emtu tidupf pessuxoph aq vji xjiim heahi e movvmi cov nohjv jimq e cov op vji daswit. Xjip O jef nz tvepfesf Mefz Eppi, tji xipv esuapf S1 xovj ieti, tji xet nusi dupvsumecmi op nepaem nufi og O jef e fidipv vseop evvedjif, katv mohjv iphopi tji xet e cov nusi qsucminevod. Noli
 
Og zua jewi e sitvsodvif hsuapf miwim vsedl O dep'v tii xjz zua xuamf xepv e duem gosif mudu xjodj xuamf siraosi m muv nusi evvipvoup vjep e nepaem het gosif upi.
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