Ruined Mine building in Hebel (Thermalite)

gregh

electronics, computers and scratchbuilding
Country flag
Over in topic : http://www.gscalecentral.net/A-nice-town-hall-for-my-tramway-m229190 , tramcar trev was pondering building a town hall from Hebel. That?s Thermalite or Celcon for you in the Uk (or unobtainable for the yanks).
For an introduction to using Hebel see my webpage here: http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/satr/hebel.htm

While I was rummaging through my photos of Western Australian buildings to reply to Trev, I ran across this one of a ruined mine building in South Australia?s ?little Cornwall?.
2a58c158dd614d90b2571340c489789c.jpg


I got to thinking that a ruined building should be easy to make ? no roof or windows and any ?mistakes? are covered by the ?ruinedness?.
A quick look outside turned up a piece of Hebel 300 x 200 x 200mm lying around which looked like it might be the ?right? size. Then googled images of ?cornwall mine ruins? for many pics of those beautiful buildings. I used many of them to decide on the broken down wall shapes, window and door openings and chimney sizes.

Then I thought this might be a good project for novices as an initiation to using Hebel, so here?s a detailed description. There have been some questions about hebel standing up to freezing weather. I don?t have that problem in Sydney, but a ruin would still be a ruin if cracked by ice.
You Poms have plenty of ruined castles and abbeys for models ? they?re a bit thin on the ground in Oz. But you could choose any ruin ? a barn maybe.

I cut a 30mm slice off one side of the block to make it 200 x 170mm plan. I used a 1? spade bit in my drill to bore down about 6? from the top leaving walls 30mm thick. Hebel is not very strong in thin bits, so I opted for 30mm walls. I used a 30mm chisel to square up the insides.
15cbcd260fd04585b34007f892af1579.jpg


Then I did the same up from the bottom, but not far enough to go right through to the top ? this gives it more strength and I planned for the inside to be filled with rubble anyhow.
3dde682f1e51483e86b46956c558b156.jpg


While I was a working a couple of King Parrots came down to supervise
363776ebb8b848948eed096bee9a3179.jpg


Then I cut out the window and door openings using the spade bit, an old hacksaw blade and the chisel, just pushing it by hand, not hammering. All the stone blocks are scribed using a hacksaw blade. It?s a big job as I had to do the inside too. All this only took about 2 hours.
c4c8e9977c894c96866668fe05c0f08d.jpg


I wanted the remains of a roof gable at one end so I cut it from the 30mm slice I had cut of the main block. I drilled 6mm holes for the glue to key into and for added strength use a couple of nails. I use Fullers Ultra clear as an adhesive. This pic shows the pieces ready to glue.
8bd4e493c454423dbb52b41e1cec7cd8.jpg


All the pics I saw showed round chimneys, but I wasn?t going to try making one of those! (I have tried turning Hebel on my lathe, but it?s MESSY.) I had another piece of hebel, 400 x 100 x 100mm so it became the chimney by slicing the wedge shapes off the side to give it a taper. In this pic it hasn?t had the stones scribed in yet. That?s a big job, so I?ll leave it till another day, while I ponder how to make at least the top few inches hollow. Also whether it should have some angle iron (styrene) bracing partly falling off.
9e6b0881d1114f9492ff92e8294455bc.jpg


Then I?ll try to make a collapsed floor ? maybe balsa? - to put inside it.
Does it need an old boiler lying next to it? And a mine adit? And an overgrown narrow gauge railway? Boy, this could go on forever!
 
Absolutely superb - by far my favourite piece of Hebel-modelling to date. Thanks for the inspiration and yes, I'll be having a go at an "industrial ruin" too!:)
 
supered bit off modeling, clever use off matairals like it:thumbup:
 
Another masterpiece, Greg! I've been wondering how I could recreate the ruins of Beeston Castle and this seems like the ideal approach.

bc1.jpg


I've got some cement dyes which I'm hoping will give the impression of the local red sandstone though as you can see it's not uniform - so I may have to do some stippling after scribing the blocks.

Rik
 
I think you missed your calling Greg. Have you thought of making rubber molds and retailing kits so we mere mortals can cast our own?
Absolutley exquisite.....
As a thought to make cylinders from this stuff you could make your own "diamond core bits" using PVC tube of the desired diameter then cover the end in PVC glue and dip the end in Garnet, Carborundum grit ( as used in abrasive blasters) or probably even sand, let the glue/grit/sand dry and rotate by hand thru the block. Worth a try maybe?
 
tramcar trev said:
I think you missed your calling Greg. Have you thought of making rubber molds and retailing kits so we mere mortals can cast our own?
Absolutley exquisite.....
As a thought to make cylinders from this stuff you could make your own "diamond core bits" using PVC tube of the desired diameter then cover the end in PVC glue and dip the end in Garnet, Carborundum grit ( as used in abrasive blasters) or probably even sand, let the glue/grit/sand dry and rotate by hand thru the block. Worth a try maybe?

most older chimberleys are taped though....
 
Looks like we can all look forward to a 'rash' of articles on ruined buildings. Can't wait to see others' ideas.
Yes, they might withstand footballs, animals and grandkids too.
How about posting some pics of YOUR possible prototype so I can get more ideas? ge-rik's pic of round towers looks great, but how about Caernarvon castle Rik?.
A slate shed? (Don't know what that is). Does anyone know of ruined station buildings?

Been too windy to get outside and finish the chimney today, but have coloured the building. Pics soon.
 
Here are some from me, a ruin near Silverton NSW, A lime kiln if you need an excuse for a seashore railway, this one is not far as the Budgie flies from Moonta where Greg's ruined mine shot was taken , its at Wool Point, A stone public convenience with a spectacular view near Streaky Bay SA and a very rare railway spike from the Silverton Tramway I found out in the desert and I think it was in SA.
43836ed7392c410e9529b2b9d560f490.jpg
14f43866a76644afa9925624a371412c.jpg
c53757a6341a41059f770794e7fcdf1d.jpg
1bef9570d44d4ddba681dc8c5ae44f05.jpg
bfc3666e7f054f99a255fc998f311344.jpg
e26621904be6476498111616d0219ecf.jpg
bda15c70e6a447d2b36edd932d0d2d90.jpg
 
Managed to get the chimney scribed and everything coloured with a mixture of yellow and black oxide. I put a few bits of wood inside to simulate a collapsed floor. Now to find a permanent position for it.
9121c1fe3e5d45a69a8063e63c30c55e.jpg

07d6cbf0c8714167a2223061c5a23514.jpg
 
Looks even better now the colour's been added, Greg.

I think I'll give Caernarvon Castle a miss - unless I expand the garden. The beauty of Beeston from my point of view is the towers for the gatehouse are semi-circular so only half a headache as far as the chiselling is concerned. :thumbup:

beeston_castle.jpg


Rik
 
CoggesRailway said:
tramcar trev said:
I think you missed your calling Greg. Have you thought of making rubber molds and retailing kits so we mere mortals can cast our own?
Absolutley exquisite.....
As a thought to make cylinders from this stuff you could make your own "diamond core bits" using PVC tube of the desired diameter then cover the end in PVC glue and dip the end in Garnet, Carborundum grit ( as used in abrasive blasters) or probably even sand, let the glue/grit/sand dry and rotate by hand thru the block. Worth a try maybe?

most older chimberleys are taped though....
Hmmm yeah true. But don't dispair I have a solution worth trying.
Using the same technique as above to make a long taper get the pvc pipe at the diameter you want the base of your flue, then with a hacksaw remove a wedge of the tube along the length of the tube. close the wedge up with a screw type hose clamp on the open end creating a tapered length of tube, swab out the inside with PVC glue and cover with grit, allow to dry and you end up with a tapered sanding mold for your flue. The same technique could be tried for castle turrets etc as they always have a bit of a taper on them.
I might sell these on eBay......
 
tramcar trev said:
... But don't dispair I have a solution worth trying.
Using the same technique as above to make a long taper get the pvc pipe at the diameter you want the base of your flue, then with a hacksaw remove a wedge of the tube along the length of the tube. close the wedge up with a screw type hose clamp on the open end creating a tapered length of tube, swab out the inside with PVC glue and cover with grit, allow to dry and you end up with a tapered sanding mold for your flue. The same technique could be tried for castle turrets etc as they always have a bit of a taper on them.
I might sell these on eBay......
I think that might work Trev. But unless making many, I think I'd just get out the angle grinder and make some dust.
Anyhow, I've spoken nicely to my wife who will make me a clay one 'when she gets round to it'. Easy to do circular things on a pottery wheel.
 
JRinTawa said:
You go me wondering what sort of use I could put Hebel to on the H&MGR Gregh, you make it look easy!
Must be plenty of earthquake damaged 'ruins' in NZhttp://www.gscalecentral.net/post?quote=true&mq=&messageID=231741# < Link To ;)
And it is easy !!!. It's just the inspiration that I lack until something tickles my fancy.
It seems a tortuous path from trev's pictures of a beautiful town hall to my ruined mine, but that's how it happened.
 
Back
Top Bottom