In light of the highly successful thread:-
Trams: is there much interest for them on here?
https://www.gscalecentral.net/threa...y-interest-on-here.305868/page-18#post-499082
I thought that I would add a second similar one to split the Interest as Steam Trams are a very different interest though having some link to Electric Trams. I feel it may be helpful to find this Thread as a sort of repository for these Dragons. To get the ball rolling I include some pictures of Belgium Steam Trams in varying places and showing that there was little difference between Metre and Standard Gauge variants. Little like Electric Trams of new I guess.
This first batch of 5 pics are Standarg Gauge Steam Trams probably in and around Poulseur that kept its Steam Trams running to as late as 1966. There was a Quarry Line that needed this type of Locomotive Power thus the late survival. I cannot read the number on any of the pictures so this could be one of the SG variants of Type 11or 12. It is certainly not a type 10 as these had sloping inwards Side Skirts. So far as I can tell there were less then 20 SG Steam Trams in Belgium so this lines survival was quite remarkable. So sorry that I missed it.
Pic below clearly at Poulseur Station.
Somewhere along the line.
With a 4 wheel coach used for the Chef du Tren.
An Empty Quarry Train running along the Roadside demonstrating the need for a Steam Tram. Other pictures that I have seen show these Low Wagons being loaded with great big rough quarried Rocks.
We now move into unchartered waters location wise. The SNCV lines of Belgium were an extremely complex and National System and Steam Trams were spread around in all sorts of guises and locations. All the following Steam Trams are all Metre Gauge ones.
634 is a Franco-Belg built Type 7 built in 1912. Judging by the angle of the Window Box and Bodywork below this one has had a good old Bang somewhere.
408 is a Tubiz built Type 6 built in 1897.
Another picture of 408 showing that these machines were certainly not afraid to be seen under the wires.
I cannot read the number on this print. All I can add is that there was at least colliery that was using MG Steam Trams in the 60's possibly even into the 70's. This one could certainly be at that location. Of interest are the SG Wagons on Rollwagen which was certainly the case at the Colliery I have in my mind.
Another view where the Number and hence Type of the Locomotive I cannot state. But this picture is of interest as it shows what would have been a typical Steam Tram hauled Vicinal Passenger Train. Quite possibly taken between WW1 and 2. The Coaches appear to be 4 wheel Centre-platform ones, all bar 1 of which had all been adapted for Electric Traction use by 1931. There centre of operation would appear to have been for cross-border traffic betwen Belgium and France. There are 3 of the Coaches and a Van on this Train. It certainly looks to be considerably longer, but these were quite long for 4 wheelers.
I have delved freelyin the following 2 publications for my Notations behind these Pictures.
The Belgium Vicinal Tram & Light Rail Fleet 1885-1991 by Dirk Eveleens Maarse
The Vicinal Story by WJK Davies
Trams: is there much interest for them on here?
https://www.gscalecentral.net/threa...y-interest-on-here.305868/page-18#post-499082
I thought that I would add a second similar one to split the Interest as Steam Trams are a very different interest though having some link to Electric Trams. I feel it may be helpful to find this Thread as a sort of repository for these Dragons. To get the ball rolling I include some pictures of Belgium Steam Trams in varying places and showing that there was little difference between Metre and Standard Gauge variants. Little like Electric Trams of new I guess.
This first batch of 5 pics are Standarg Gauge Steam Trams probably in and around Poulseur that kept its Steam Trams running to as late as 1966. There was a Quarry Line that needed this type of Locomotive Power thus the late survival. I cannot read the number on any of the pictures so this could be one of the SG variants of Type 11or 12. It is certainly not a type 10 as these had sloping inwards Side Skirts. So far as I can tell there were less then 20 SG Steam Trams in Belgium so this lines survival was quite remarkable. So sorry that I missed it.
Pic below clearly at Poulseur Station.
Somewhere along the line.
With a 4 wheel coach used for the Chef du Tren.
An Empty Quarry Train running along the Roadside demonstrating the need for a Steam Tram. Other pictures that I have seen show these Low Wagons being loaded with great big rough quarried Rocks.
We now move into unchartered waters location wise. The SNCV lines of Belgium were an extremely complex and National System and Steam Trams were spread around in all sorts of guises and locations. All the following Steam Trams are all Metre Gauge ones.
634 is a Franco-Belg built Type 7 built in 1912. Judging by the angle of the Window Box and Bodywork below this one has had a good old Bang somewhere.
408 is a Tubiz built Type 6 built in 1897.
Another picture of 408 showing that these machines were certainly not afraid to be seen under the wires.
I cannot read the number on this print. All I can add is that there was at least colliery that was using MG Steam Trams in the 60's possibly even into the 70's. This one could certainly be at that location. Of interest are the SG Wagons on Rollwagen which was certainly the case at the Colliery I have in my mind.
Another view where the Number and hence Type of the Locomotive I cannot state. But this picture is of interest as it shows what would have been a typical Steam Tram hauled Vicinal Passenger Train. Quite possibly taken between WW1 and 2. The Coaches appear to be 4 wheel Centre-platform ones, all bar 1 of which had all been adapted for Electric Traction use by 1931. There centre of operation would appear to have been for cross-border traffic betwen Belgium and France. There are 3 of the Coaches and a Van on this Train. It certainly looks to be considerably longer, but these were quite long for 4 wheelers.
I have delved freelyin the following 2 publications for my Notations behind these Pictures.
The Belgium Vicinal Tram & Light Rail Fleet 1885-1991 by Dirk Eveleens Maarse
The Vicinal Story by WJK Davies
I agree that there were a fair few in the U.K. but I'm still of the opinion that very few have survived and of those that have not all are typical. On reflection, if you include the non powered trailers, there may be more than I realised.
