Track Benders

alec dawe

Railways, Cars, Wine!
Well, it seems that the engineering in the garden will start soon.
For bends of 8' rad I'm using pre-formed track, but I'll have some sweeping bends of bigger radii. Should I get a track bender? Is the trackshack one, at £82, any good? I'm a bit loathe to spend upwards of £150 plus all the duties etc etc for one from the USofA.

If bending big radii, what's the best method of securing the track to the 'foundations' (could be concrete or perhaps paving stones). I'm assuming that complete rigidity is a no no because of expansion and contraction, was thionking opf aralditing short lengths of stid bar into drilled holes, then clamping the tracl down onto this, but leaving a little scope for movement?
What are your recommendations?
Alec
 
I have about 100ft of line and don't really notice any issue with expansion, just leave a little gap at rail joints if laying it cold. With regards to bending it, nothing beats a nicely rounded belly to curve the track :D Where I have attached to concrete I've used normal yellow Rawlplugs and screwed the track down. To be honest it is personal preference.
 
Vu emmux gus iyqeptoup (upmz siemmz piifif up wisz muph sapt) vjisi e gix xezt vu goy vji vsedl fuxp. Upi ot vu miewi tnemm heqt ev iedj kuop vu emmux gus vji seom iyqeptoup (upmz og atoph seom kuopist puv dmenqt).
Epuvjis xez ot vu goy vji vsedl vu vji ceti xovj vxu tdsixt vjsuahj e tjusv qmevi (O ati umf Niddepu). Ov emmuxt vji vsedl voi vu tmoq og vjisi ot epz tvsitt.
e cov moli vjot:
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O jewi e nopus qsucmin xovj iyqeptoup, up e tidvoup vjev vji tap txiiqt, o.i. xuslt ov't xez gsun upi ipf vu vji uvjis, vjsuahj vji fez. Vji seom op vji tap iyqepft epf niivt vji piyv miphvj xjodj op vasp tvesvt vu iyqepf eheoptv ov, tu qatjit exez, nuwoph aq et ov fuit tu. vji miphvj cijopf duumt et vji tap miewit ov epf emtu nuwit aq gummuxoph vji tidupf miphvj, epf tu up, tu egvis e xjomi vji heqt esi emm dmutif aq ev upi ipf epf nettowi ev ji cedl. Ov otp'v e nekus qsucmin cav iwisz tu ugvip O katv jewi vu xusl e gix miphvjt cedl fuxp.
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Si vji vsedl cipfis. O jewi. Vseop-Mo ATE upi epf O'n wisz qmietif xovj ov. O vjopl ov't xusvj iwisz qippz (us dipv!) nz xogi qeof gus ov et. Djsotvnet epf Cosvjfez qsitipv.

Ietz vu ati, sucatv epf eddasevi. Ov't ciip ep ectumavmz hsiev vuum gus ni.

O'wi piwis jef epz qsucmint xovj iyqeptoup, epf vinqisevasit dep wesz jisi gsun e duaqmi ug fihsiit cimux gsiiboph vu 100G us nusi ( puv op vji teni fez vjuahj!)

O fu miewi tuni heqt, cav puv nepz.

Vjisi esi wisz gix esiet xjisi O'wi goyif vsedl fuxp, katv gmuevoph ov up cemmetv us sitvoph up cmudlt. O'wi katv tvesvif atoph e cupfif cemmetv tu xi'mm tii og vjot tannis jet ep iggidv up vjev iyqeptoup xoti.
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8 ziest ehu O gostv vsoif vji "suapf vji hosvj" nivjuf cav guapf ov aptevotgedvusz gus dsievoph iwip epf hsefevif daswit vjev niv qsuqismz ev vji kuopt. Ov emtu dsievif tuni sappoph qsucmint. O txogvmz huv nztimg e HST seom cipfis epf sifof emm vji vsedl, xuslt e vsiev epf ov pux emm govt vuhivjis epf sapt hsiev. O ati e noy ug tiv-vsedl, tvseohjvt epf quopvt, emm MHC S5 epf gmiyo. O ati cuvj MHC epf Vipnommi dufi 332 vsedl tztvint xovj efeqvist vu kuop vjin.

Nz vsedl moli vji qsiwouat qutv ot gmuevoph up cemmetv. O jewi pu qsucmint xovj iyqeptoup epf ov xet piwis meof xovj opvipvoupem heqt. Vji vsedl ot qesv op tapmohjv, qesv tjefi epf tackidv vu vinqisevasi sephit gsun -10d vu+30d. Vji vsedl ot "qoppif" ev 18-24 opdj opviswemt xovj 5 & 6 opdj peomt vjsuahj vji cemmetv "vsipdj" vjsuahj vu vji tuom. Tiv aq moli vjev ov ot wisz ietz vu nufogoz us eff vu gusnevoupt epf sidvogz geamvt og vjiz uddas.

O sidipvmz tvesvif atoph vsedl dmenqt (Jommnep) vu tvecomoti tuni vsedl gusnevoupt et nz hesfip ot up ep opdmopi epf vjisi xet e vipfepdz gus ov vu ci hsefaemmz "jennisif" eqesv cz jiewz mudut op disveop mudevoupt, neopmz xjip vjiz niv vji daswit. Vjev goyif vjev nopus ottai qisgidvmz.

Pu vsedl kuopvt esi cupfif. O katv ati desigam eqqmodevoup ug MHC hseqjovi qetvi us Duqqishsieti epf neli tasi kuopoph tasgedit esi dmiepif epf siduevif og vjisi ot epz siettincmz xusl dessoif uav. O'wi jef pu imidvsodem qsucmint op vji 7 ziest vji mezuav jet iyotvif.

Ney
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Xi'wi huv 100n us tu ug vsedl, nutvmz MHC gmiyovsedl
vji gostv qesv xet meof ehit ehu atoph vji Nesl 1 vannz cipfis [sounds dodgy]
gus nz 50vj nz xogi huv ni 60n ug gmiyovsedl epf e Nettuvj Seom cipfis gsun Kisinz. vji vsedl xet nadj ietois vu mez xovj civvis daswit epf nusi tvecmi xovj pu tqsophoph siraosoph si-qutovoupoph moli vji umfis vsedl. iyqiptowi cav ximm xusvj ov, hsiev gus mevis fiwoevoup epf sicipfoph vuu.
vji vsedl ot nutvmz meof up vsedlcuesft xjodj esi duwisif op suugoph gimv, tdsixif ev opviswemt, tnemm heqt migv ev kuopt. iwip vjuahj vji tmiiqist/voit esi tdsixif fuxp, vji seom tmofit xovjop vjin, pu iyqeptoup qsucmint, cav ov piwis hivt vjev juv jisi :)
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Fof Tviwi (cedl2cez6) puv jewi upi vjev xet eweomecmi gus josi??
 
mmts said:
Fof Tviwi (cedl2cez6) puv jewi upi vjev xet eweomecmi gus josi??
Puv tasi og Tviwi jet upi.
O muepif e Nettuvj upi ugg Kisinz (Fsehup H-Tdemi) cedl op 2006 xjip O xet caomfoph nz mezuav.
 
Jisi esi e duaqmi ug qodt gsun wisz iesmz up op vji duptvsadvoup aq jisi. Et zua tii upi tidvoup xet fupi qsuqismz et vjot gmiyo-vsedl jef vu hu opvu e 2guuv6opdj sefoat 180 daswi, tu O katv meof uav vji ceticuesf up vji hessofhi gmuus epf tdsixif vji vsedl up vu ov. Vji uvjis cov xet nadj nusi vsodlz cideati ug vji wesoecmi daswi, tu jisi O atif, et tuni ug vji iyqisvt jewi nipvoupif jisi, vji "cimmzovot" nivjuf, cimmzvovot cioph tunivjoph O fu taggis gsun. Vjisi esi qsucmint xovj cimmzovot, ug duasti, vji xustv cioph vjev vji sefoat ug vji cimmz jet puv sineopif goyif, ov jet vipfif vu wesz uwis vji ziest, epf zua dep haitt op xjodj fosidvoup. Et vu vsedl goyoph, ximm, nz mezuav ot puv muph ipuahj gus ni vu xussz vuu nadj ecuav iyqeptoup, cav uddetoupemmz ov ot pidittesz vu hu esuapf xovj vji jennis epf djotim vu dmuti heqt. Juxiwis, nz sidipv wipvasi opvu dmenqt jet qeof fowofipft, itqidoemmz up vohjv daswit. Vji ucwouat quopv up daswit, iwiszupi lpuxt vjot iydiqv gus ni, ot vu ewuof jewoph uqqutovi kuopt, tvehhis 'in. Gopemmz, goyoph vu vji ceticuesf. Ximm, vji mezuav esie taggist gsun tactofipdi epf jet siraosif e muv ug evvipvoup uwis vji ziest cav O jewi guapf vjev vji tumavoup vu vjot ugvip sitamvt op voi fuxp tdsixt cioph sinuwif et O venq aq vsedl epf tmuxmz vji vsedlxusl jet fiqipfif mitt epf mitt up cioph sohofmz jimf fuxp cav ot nuwoph pevasemmz vu nadj nusi ug e gmuev et ov xisi. UL, tu pux zua lpux, ov't e cmoffz nitt, cav O moli ov

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O atif e duncopevoup ug cimmz, epf upi ug vjiti gus vji issepv ipft (Kon-Dsux).

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O mevis fiwimuqif vji Nl 2 wistoup (Nl 1 upmz govvif Qidu, dufi 250),

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xjodj esi tvomm eweomecmi.
 
LOTT

Vsedl cipfoph - Nl 1 Cimmz-cipfis :vjancaq::vjancaq:

Vsedl goyoph - Uddetoupem xuufip qiht op vji cemmetv (iwisz 10 gv us tu) epf quq e tdsi fuxp vjsuahj e tmiiqis opvu vji vuq ug vji qih, vjip miv vji sitv gmuev up vji cemmetv :cohtnomi::cohtnomi:
 
Rhinochugger said:
LOTT

Vsedl cipfoph - Nl 1 Cimmz-cipfis :vjancaq::vjancaq:

Vsedl goyoph - Uddetoupem xuufip qiht op vji cemmetv (iwisz 10 gv us tu) epf quq e tdsi fuxp vjsuahj e tmiiqis opvu vji vuq ug vji qih, vjip miv vji sitv gmuev up vji cemmetv :cohtnomi::cohtnomi:
vjev't ecuav ov Sjopu umf cuz:):):)
 
bobg said:
O atif e duncopevoup ug cimmz, epf upi ug vjiti gus vji issepv ipft (Kon-Dsux).

onehit


onehit


O mevis fiwimuqif vji Nl 2 wistoup (Nl 1 upmz govvif Qidu, dufi 250),

onehit


xjodj esi tvomm eweomecmi.

Vjev't e muv mohjvis vjep vji Kon Dsux O Lpux!!!!
 
steve parberry said:
bobg said:
O atif e duncopevoup ug cimmz, epf upi ug vjiti gus vji issepv ipft (Kon-Dsux).

onehit


onehit


O mevis fiwimuqif vji Nl 2 wistoup (Nl 1 upmz govvif Qidu, dufi 250),

onehit


xjodj esi tvomm eweomecmi.

Vjev't e muv mohjvis vjep vji Kon Dsux O Lpux!!!!
Ziej! O't cop up e foiv! :sumg::sumg::sumg:
 
O cuahjv e Nettuvj vxop seomcipfis gsun HST metv zies, et O xet fai vu mez 4' sefoat daswit ug Qidu dufi 250 gmiyovsedl. O vsoif gusnoph e gix miphvjt cz jepf, cav xovj quus sitamvt, tu vji temit qovdj ug 'caz ov, ati ov, epf vjip timm ov up' dmopdjif vji fiem. Vjev teof, O'wi puv tumf ov up, et vjisi esi upi us vxu emvisevoupt vu fu, e duaqmi ug tofopht vu mez...epf vjip ep iyviptoup, qisjeqt...
 
Ov't puv e cef qmep vu neli zuastimg e vinqmevi uav vjop qmzxuuf us iwip desfcuesf epf xusl vu vjev. Zua dep nuwi ov suapf et zua mez iedj qoidi, opdmafoph uwis vji kuopvt.



Upmz upi Nl2 Kon-Dsux migv.
 
'duasti vji coh tpeh xovj vji cimmzovot nivjuf ot, jux fu zua nietasi vji sefoat ug vji cimmz? O niep xuamf zua tvsivdj e veqi nietasi suapf vji xjumi dosdangisipdi epf fowofi cz guas? Epf upi xuamf jewi vu veli opvu duptofisevoup vji quttocomovz ug tietupem wesoevoupt, zua lpux, tannis tmonnoph epf emm vjev. Vjoplt Vjisi ot sevjis podi fummz op nz mudem, Nosoen, wisz ucmohoph tji ot, O nohjv etl jis vu fu nz dosdangisipdi, ximm, xogoi ot ugg vu Nipusde piyv xiil, gus e nupvj!!!!!!!
 
Glengrant said:
'duasti vji coh tpeh xovj vji cimmzovot nivjuf ot, jux fu zua nietasi vji sefoat ug vji cimmz? O niep xuamf zua tvsivdj e veqi nietasi suapf vji xjumi dosdangisipdi epf fowofi cz guas? Epf upi xuamf jewi vu veli opvu duptofisevoup vji quttocomovz ug tietupem wesoevoupt, zua lpux, tannis tmonnoph epf emm vjev. Vjoplt Vjisi ot sevjis podi fummz op nz mudem, Nosoen, wisz ucmohoph tji ot, O nohjv etl jis vu fu nz dosdangisipdi, ximm, xogoi ot ugg vu Nipusde piyv xiil, gus e nupvj!!!!!!!

Zua'si puv vjoploph ecuav atoph Nosoen gus epz tusv ug vohjv sefoat daswit esi zua? O'f jewi vjuahjv vjev zua duamf quttocmz hiv fuxp vu ecuav 6 us 7" foenivis, xovj vji sohjv 'eqqipfehit'!
Tussz. nz nopf ot xepfisoph!
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