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Glengrant

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Remember when someone, and I apologise for not remembering who, sold these excellent lighting sets? After about two years I still not have completely rigged my up but when trying to do that today I noticed that a bulb is missing. I do not know if it corroded and fell off, or if it just dropped out. Snag is I cannot find it, not yet anyway. Now this presumably means the circuit is broken, doesn't work any more. Is there anything I can do to join things up, as it were, or find a replacemnt bulb?
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Do these use bulbs Cyril?

Can you take a photo please....
 
:bigsmile:I had many sets from Q&B but they all had LED's fitted and not a filliment in sight:bigsmile:
 
I will try to clarify, yes these are like the Christmas things where you pump in 230-240V at one end and summat like 24 or 48 etc bulbs come on. Come on, one of you guys were selling these, at a very low price, about two years ago. I will elaborate tomorrow further, tonight is a bad night
 
I have only ever seen those with led lights, running from 24v. I think this is why some of us are a bit confuddled with your incandescent set.
 
OK found the bulb, maybe these are LEDS. As you can see the bulb is in a dreadful state, most of the legs have rusted away. I could I suppose solder on bits of wire to enable the connection to be made again when I plug it into the holder, but I would need to know which was +ve and which -ve if it is a LED. The AC Adapter says Pri 230-240V, Sec 24V which would suggest LED? The thing is, you are told quite clearly that his set is for indoor use only, and it sat last winter under a foot of snow, not the AC adapter, I hasten to add, that is always kept under cover and is stored indoors when not in use.
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It's a LED by the look of things?

Might be worth a trip to Maplins to get it identified.

As the power supply is 24 V and I suspect AC, it doesn't matter which way round it is fitted, but again Maplins will advise....
 
Gizzy said:
It's a LED by the look of things?

Might be worth a trip to Maplins to get it identified.

As the power supply is 24 V and I suspect AC, it doesn't matter which way round it is fitted, but again Maplins will advise....
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Thanks appreciate that, yes, I'm sure it's a LED
 
OK Ross, I was beginning to think along those lines myself, only snag is I have laid a rather complex series of these along the layout, to dig them up and start afresh will be a long job, still, one lives and learns. I may just try to bridge the gap with one of my LEDs see if that works. If I were just to join the gap without a LED will that work, or does it cause an overload on the rest of the LEDs?
 
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Glengrant said:
OK Ross, I was beginning to think along those lines myself, only snag is I have laid a rather complex series of these along the layout, to dig them up and start afresh will be a long job, still, one lives and learns. I may just try to bridge the gap with one of my LEDs see if that works. If I were just to join the gap without a LED will that work, or does it cause an overload on the rest of the LEDs?
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Bridging with a led sounds good.....make it a white one.
Of course. IF it does not work.........:nail: Return to the ramp.:laugh:
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Well Ross I was in the process of doing that, no response, so I thought let's just bin this lot. Then to my amazement I noticed that despiut my having as I thought broken the circuit that lights one to ten are all on, it's after that nothing is on, and that's not where I cut into the circuit. Oh well, at least some of them work, but I am of course now totally confused.
 
Glengrant said:
ROSS said:
Glengrant said:
OK Ross, I was beginning to think along those lines myself, only snag is I have laid a rather complex series of these along the layout, to dig them up and start afresh will be a long job, still, one lives and learns. I may just try to bridge the gap with one of my LEDs see if that works. If I were just to join the gap without a LED will that work, or does it cause an overload on the rest of the LEDs?
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Bridging with a led sounds good.....make it a white one.
Of course. IF it does not work.........:nail: Return to the ramp.:laugh:
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Well Ross I was in the process of doing that, no response, so I thought let's just bin this lot. Then to my amazement I noticed that despiut my having as I thought broken the circuit that lights one to ten are all on, it's after that nothing is on, and that's not where I cut into the circuit. Oh well, at least some of them work, but I am of course now totally confused.
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I believe you will find that these sets are comprised of 3 separate circuits, each having 10 lamps and thus giving 30 lamps in total.

I guess that each circuit has the lamps wired in series (daisy chain), but the 3 circuits are probably parallel.

I'm told though that you can't easily separate these into 3 separate loops....
 
OK then Gizz, does that mean if one of the 10 lamp circuits has a break, that is if one bulb, or LED fails then that 10 lamp circuit is junk? I get what you are saying Ross re start all over again, but you will see that one of the failed circuits is the one where the lamp standards are built into the platform, look no wonder I am going mad. At the same time as I am doing this, I am trying to work out how to get my 2nd TE tuned up, and that isn't going well, and I am also trying my best to make 1:29 sized little peoples heads out of Sculpey, I tell 'ee lad, I think I'll take up crochetting instead, you meet a saner class of people there
 
I have a set exactly the same, which I am in the process of renewing all the leds to warm white from the yellow. I need to check my set fully, as mine seems to be 2 circuits which would be using 1.6v leds. It would be more realistic to be 3 sets which would be 2.4v leds. As I'm replacing I am also sealing them totally, especially where the little holder plugs into the post. I'll let you know how it goes and what the leds are that I used... IF it works :D
 
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OK then Gizz, does that mean if one of the 10 lamp circuits has a break, that is if one bulb, or LED fails then that 10 lamp circuit is junk?
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That's correct mate....
 
I'm going to try to reposition the working ones on the platform, if there's enough slack, the rest I'll bin, keeping the bulbs/LEDs as spares. I think I will just stick to battery units for other lighting.
 
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