What is my New Stainz?

sparky230

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I put up the pic of my latest Stainz in another post but here it is again

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Now I'm trying to work out it's identity and age from the colour orange/brown some say choc brown it's from the Schmidt bakery set of 1984.

But this is deff earlier, earlier rear sockets, earlier rear coupling, earlier stack, red rear lens.

Any ideas?
 
Definately not the Schmidt Bakery set locomotive. As you state your model has early couplers and also black moulded accessories and not gold plated as on later post 1980 locomotives.

The straight stack and #1 on cab denote a #2010X series locomotive so possibly from an early goods set. Also, the rear window panel is not over printed with cab tools so another indication of an early type locomotive (mid-1970s).
 
Made up fom bits of different locos ?
 
i've compared it to several of the early dark brown 2010's I have and the Dark green 2010 I have and I reckon it dates to the mid 70's prob before 79. But I can find no reference to this colour except for the schmidt bakery version of 84.

However I come to the conclusion that it's had a earlier stack put on it, as the stack is the same as my very early green 2010, with the smaller lens, but this has the larger lens from mid 70's
 
Looks to me like an early skate chassis ( early1970's) and early boiler, as the valve control is not plated, fitted with a later ( mid 1970's)cab. Also LGB did small runs, for stores etc, that were not catalogued. Alyn
 
I think that this loco (or at least, its chassis!) dates from long before the days of the gold QC stickers...

My best guess would be that either it's a hybrid made from different parts, or possibly the cab is a repaint - the cab roof edges look suspiciously shiny in the photo, though that might just be the flash.

Several of the boiler details indicate a pre-1974 loco, but nothing in either Greenberg's or the later Roth/Doggett edition of the LGB guide list an early Stainz with that sort of cab colour; they do however note that the various browns used over the years vary significantly, and are very hard to describe accurately.

Jon.
 
Roof may have been repainted, but cab is deff factory moulded plastic.
certainly is a early cab as it has black raised piece of plastic on the rear with the lighting sockets, not the later flush ones.
 
Looking at the INSIDE of the cab roof in your photo, the brown of the original plastic looks to be a much deeper chocolate brown shade (not the darkest shade ever used, but certainly similar to some early No.1 brown cabs I've seen) - this suggests that the outside of the cab is definitely painted, but whether by the factory or later by an owner is hard to tell - is the delineation of the gold LGB and No.1 very sharp, or are there any signs around it of a possible repaint?

One guess might be a Primus brown-cab loco repainted after someone removed the Primus decals?

Jon.
 
what your seeing is just the way the flash has bounced off the cab, all the inside is the same as the outside, it's not painted the plastic is all one moulded colour
 
sparky230 said:
what your seeing is just the way the flash has bounced off the cab, all the inside is the same as the outside, it's not painted the plastic is all one moulded colour
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Ah, OK!
Do you have a picture of it taken in natural light, without the flash distorting the colours?

I know you've got a Primus loco, is there any chance that this is one of those with the Primus decals stripped off?

Jon.
 
i'll try taking a pic without the flash
btw the primus is No2 cab, this is a No1
 
thats the 1984 version , this is a much earlier unit
 
mines the same colour, but much older, older coupling, older boiler, etc
but that 1984 set version looks older than 1984 with some of the detail it has
 
the sticker on the dome is a 1994 same as all the other No 1's I have
 
I concur with Sparky. I have an identical model to his. It is not a mismatched, cobbled together from other Stainz parts. I purchased mine, brand new, in Germany in 1979. I also have a brown No2 - The Schmidt Leberkuchen loco which is No 2 with boiler Reference 2774. I will try and take a couple of photos to illustrate the differences.
 
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