Are there protypes for the LGB 2015 and 2090 KOF?

[mike]

Hi Mike,

Have you converted this locomotive to DCC? If you have did, please can you explain the setup.

Many thanks

MTheStrong

a good honest work horse

hi, and yes, its currently running useing 2, mts2 chips, ,1 in the tender, 1 in the loco, ive mademy own link wires(i used a set off lgbs interuira light units conection cables,a plug from the tender, fits a socket in the back off the loco., so both loco and tender , share pickup collection..this helps with smoother running.. wireing the chips up after this is relatively simple, justthink off it as 2 "D" gearboxes..and link eack track power to its twin..
if you need any help, let me know, or any more info..
mike

 

[Henri]

Found this picture in the depths of the GSC archives... And I LOVE it! This has written 2090 all over it! So it is almost real!

 

[Henri]

As I like digging I actually found the whereabouts of this prototype! It has nr DB "329 501-1".

• Manufacturer: Gmeinder
• Type: HK 130 C (DB)
• Manufacturer number: 4378
• Year: 1952 (who would have guessed that!!)
• Track width: 1000mm

Most of it's live it has served on the isle of Wangerooge. That explains the somewhat harbourisch image we first found here on GSC.

Much more information AND images (!!!) at deutsche-kleinloks.de

So now I'm sure it is a three axle.... All images are from deutsche-kleinloks.de

And now I'm also sure I will put the saw into my own 2090..! The real one looks SO much better!

 

[ntpntpntp]

...And now I'm also sure I will put the saw into my own 2090..! The real one looks SO much better!
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No need, just buy the LGB 21590 Wangerooge diesel which is a model of that actual loco in your last photo?

 

[Henri]

WHAATTTT!!!! Oh my! There it is, the 'correct' 2090!

 

[Rhinochugger]

What's more, two of those locos arrived in the UK - at Longmoor Military Railway after being used at Peenemunde

 

[Zerogee]

No need, just buy the LGB 21590 Wangerooge diesel which is a model of that actual loco in your last photo?

Henri - if you go looking for one of these to buy, just be aware that the one in Nick's photo (21590) is the "correct" one for the prototype, but it can be quite scarce - and there is another version in a very similar Wangerooge livery that was included in a recent LGB starter set, which although very similar has the "wrong" cab moulding (they used the older type cab as used on the black DR versions of the loco, which has smaller cab windows and completely lacks the very large windows ahead of the side doors). There are probably a LOT more of the starter set locos out there for sale than there are of the actual 21590, which (I think?) came with factory MTS/DCC chipping. Being a confirmed Rule 8 non-purist, the difference in the cabs frankly doesn't worry me at all, and probably won't worry you either - but I just thought I'd point it out as the two versions do look quite different with the variation in cab glazing, and you will most likely have to pay a lot more for a 21590 than for one of the starter set locos.

Incidentally, while on the subject of the 21590 - for anyone who knows - the black cylinder on the cab roof..... is it a radio fitment for remote shunting operation, or something else entirely? I need to fabricate one for my 21590, which I got secondhand in excellent condition except for that missing part!

Jon.

 

[Rhinochugger]

As I like digging I actually found the whereabouts of this prototype! It has nr DB "329 501-1".

• Manufacturer: Gmeinder
• Type: HK 130 C (DB)
• Manufacturer number: 4378
• Year: 1952 (who would have guessed that!!)
• Track width: 1000mm

Most of it's live it has served on the isle of Wangerooge. That explains the somewhat harbourisch image we first found here on GSC.

Much more information AND images (!!!) at deutsche-kleinloks.de

So now I'm sure it is a three axle.... All images are from deutsche-kleinloks.de

And now I'm also sure I will put the saw into my own 2090..! The real one looks SO much better!

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Looking at that dockside photo, you realise that LGB cheat with the drive rods and con rods.

And the Peenemunde locos were 760mm gauge

 

[ntpntpntp]

Looking at that dockside photo, you realise that LGB cheat with the drive rods and con rods.

True.
Accucraft gets this aspect correct on their model of the Baguley Drewry loco.

 

[Beddhist]

I wonder why the prototype has two rods on each side? The only thing getting them out of alignment would be the suspension working.

My guess with the cylinder is a radio aerial.

 

[dunnyrail]

I wonder why the prototype has two rods on each side? The only thing getting them out of alignment would be the suspension working.

My guess with the cylinder is a radio aerial.

The outside rod is the connection from the power via a crank just seen below the cab steps. The other rods connect the wheelsets. You can make out the crank on the Accucraft model which will be similar. The LGB Model while having the crank is incorrect in this instance which can be clearly seen in one of the prototype pictures. But it is such a lively Model, why worry!

Not sure re the cylinder, but I do not think it will be for Radio Control as locs with that normally have a red flashing light to indicate when on RC. See pics of RC Harz Kamels. The prototype pics in post 22 and 23 do not appear to show a roof mounted red light for this. Neither does the LGB Model. But of course I stand to be corrected on this point.
JonD

 

[Beddhist]

Yes, I understand the arrangement of the rods, but I don't understand why the designers saw a need for it. (No, I'm not an engineer, just a humble former mechanic).

I didn't mean an RC aerial, I meant two-way radio (for voice). I remember years ago reading model descriptions about "pot" aerials (Topf-Antennen). But I am guessing.

 

[Rhinochugger]

True.
Accucraft gets this aspect correct on their model of the Baguley Drewry loco.

Yes, I understand the arrangement of the rods, but I don't understand why the designers saw a need for it. (No, I'm not an engineer, just a humble former mechanic).

I didn't mean an RC aerial, I meant two-way radio (for voice). I remember years ago reading model descriptions about "pot" aerials (Topf-Antennen). But I am guessing.

Yep, it's the suspension on the axles - the drive axle will not move.

An early LMS boxcab found this out the hard way - 1831

 

[dunnyrail]

Yes, I understand the arrangement of the rods, but I don't understand why the designers saw a need for it. (No, I'm not an engineer, just a humble former mechanic).

I didn't mean an RC aerial, I meant two-way radio (for voice). I remember years ago reading model descriptions about "pot" aerials (Topf-Antennen). But I am guessing.

Aha sorry my mistake! Think you could be correct on this. But again someone will know for sure.
JonD