Before i do something stupid, please some advice.

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Second post, sorry, previous was in a wrong section?


To avoid...o dear...how sad....never mind....money GONE, and now shut uuuuuuuup.
Scale 1 is 1 at 32? aka g scale???
The ad only states scale 1 on catawiki.
This is 45mm track?

If so i am going to buy that loco as "walsing loco" (old fraze for Dutch heavy loco's to "ride in" new tracks.

I really hope to get a answer quick.

Many thanks in advance, bets regards Igor


Ps i am aware of the "buyer protection fee" and the tax....sigh.....s i g h .....
 
It is Gauge 1 rather than G Scale but it will run on 45 mm track yes.

If you don't have DCC though, check it will work with a DC controller....
 
So it will run on 45mm track to test if my track building is any good(i want to build my own tracks, look at my signature)
Time is running out, go or no go, or other options? for a "walsch loco"?(Dutch for drive in the tracks loco)
 
justme igor said:
I was too late to input my credit card data....Big bummer
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So sadly you missed it? If you go for a similar loco with DCC sound, there are Battery Receivers and Transnitters that will drive DCC via battery and do the sounds. The most comprehensive I know in UK are by Fosworks but others are available in USA. Not sure how the track standards of a Maerklin Gauge 1 loco will work with your high standards of track building. Perhaps a cheeper option may be to buy a Wagon to check things out, though irritatingly a search on German Ebay does find lots of true Maerklin Spur 1, it also shows lots of Z and HO on the search!
 
You hit the nail on the head!
And gives me some food for thought also.
To make a wagon and adjust that is kintergarden.
I created axles and wheel sets and can change it in no time.
A locomotive is something else, i did had some succes of building a frame or three.
Indeed with my trackwork i am at the point of testing, so i would like a cheap locomotive.
With biddings the prices go up pretty quick, with some biddings the hair on my back is rising, to commercial/fishy sometimes.

What kind of brand i must look out for? it thought(mistakenly) that all where basically the same considering there wheelbase and flanges?
I hope you understand that before i am going to buy (from a second mortgage or lottery idk) some accucraft or similar stuff, that i would like to test my track settings before i am going to build my trackplan for real.
I build several turnouts with several other dimensions, ready to start to build with some other dimensions.
(ooooh brother i saw some nice ones....15k and up.....sigh)

Hmmm and yes, that dcc thingy, can i just take it out or do i have to look only for dc?
Are there any snake pits?

Any advice in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Best Igor.

Ps regarding fosworks i have a transmitter and 12 recivers for motor control and for a soundcard control.
 
justme igor said:
You hit the nail on the head!
And gives me some food for thought also.
To make a wagon and adjust that is kintergarden.
I created axles and wheel sets and can change it in no time.
A locomotive is something else, i did had some succes of building a frame or three.
Indeed with my trackwork i am at the point of testing, so i would like a cheap locomotive.
With biddings the prices go up pretty quick, with some biddings the hair on my back is rising, to commercial/fishy sometimes.

What kind of brand i must look out for? it thought(mistakenly) that all where basically the same considering there wheelbase and flanges?
I hope you understand that before i am going to buy (from a second mortgage or lottery idk) some accucraft or similar stuff, that i would like to test my track settings before i am going to build my trackplan for real.
I build several turnouts with several other dimensions, ready to start to build with some other dimensions.
(ooooh brother i saw some nice ones....15k and up.....sigh)

Hmmm and yes, that dcc thingy, can i just take it out or do i have to look only for dc?
Are there any snake pits?

Any advice in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Best Igor.

Ps regarding fosworks i have a transmitter and 12 recivers for motor control and for a soundcard control.
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Are those receivers and transmitter (Tx] Fosworks? If so a DCC reciever will work on a Fosworks transmitter, but depends on the one you have. My one has Red Green buttons on side and 3 Black ones on top, these combinations give you 12 DCC sound calls 1-12. Newer Fosworks TX do more options.

Re Brand look for Marklin Gauge 1 not G scale. Link to an item on Ebay to give you an idea of the range.
Note the coupling that is used for the Gauge 1 range. If buying and want Gauge 1 Marklin this is the coupling to look for.
 
I have a "deltang" tx22 set.
Now that is one beautiful locomotive.
To bad for the vat, clarence and import taxes.....

The couplers i am going to use are the sa3(ca3) after the Williams coupler, if i remember correctly.(1920? to 1940? somewhere)
And for the imperial era (before 1920ish)the chain coupler.
The ones i made have a pulling force of 35kg before deformation/snapping.
( i am afraid that i become a rivet counter)

What is the main difference between gauge 1, g scale or 1:32, how does this work with some nmra or similar standards.
Or other scales that are related to 1:32?
All my trackwork is in 45mm, 1at32 scale, 1 foot to the 9.53mm
Thanks in advance.

Ps that is a real beauty. needs some paintwork and rewiring the motor to the next wagon....
 
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G Scale about 1:22.5.

Gauge 1 about 1:29 - 1:32....
 
Thanks that will narrow it down a lot. so my search would be for gauge 1, spur 1, track 1, spoor 1 and not g scale, or "g" on catawiki or ebay or marketplace.
 
For the next time gauge 1 is 1:32 and the track should be 44.45mm. For gauge 1 locos and stock take a look at ebay.de as Märklin are big in this scale but be warned, the prices will make you go WHAAAAT?
 
justme igor said:
Thanks that will narrow it down a lot. so my search would be for gauge 1, spur 1, track 1, spoor 1 and not g scale, or "g" on catawiki or ebay or marketplace.
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if you got some time, let your brain get twisted by some scale lists. scales

and beware if you look on german ebay, don't look for spur 1 / spoor 1 - for that they charge you a leg and an arm!
Maerklin maxi and all the other toys, that sail under the name Spur 1 are for millionaires only.

Largescale, G scale - two of the most irritating denominations that are used in train modeling.
if we throw in gauge or "guage" (as many americans write) nearly everybody gets lost.
there is NO G-scale! nor any Largescale! these words embrace more than a handfull of scales and dozens of gauges!
the expression "rubbergauge" shows the average modeler's helplessness, when confronted with scale and gauge.
for my own modeling eforts i made this compilation of various sources concerning scale and gauge.

first there was Maerklin. who made trains in 1:32 scale on standardspur, gauge 1 - 45mm.
for the "G scale" we have to thank LGB. they made their gardentrains/Gartenbahn in 1:22.5 but on 1 Meter spoor, using 45mm gauge. (and advertized it as well as Grossbahn or grootspoor)
when the first americans started to make gardentrains as well, they choose 1:24 and called it largescale. as well on 45mm gauge.
the 3rd or 4th american producer decided to make "standard gauge" trains, but a little bigger than spoor 1. he went for 1:29 scale but on the same gauge of track - 45mm...
the newest stepchild of 1:32 is Fn3 (1:20.3 scale) narrow gauge on - what else? - 45mm gauge track!

mentioning "grootspoor" reminded me, to tell you to have a look at this site: grootspoor / tuinspoor / Schaal II en IIm / G | grootspoor.com
they sell new and used. (i'm a content customer)
 
Probably for justme igor justme igor Piko may be his best bet, track scale pretty much as G LGB etc. All stock these days is Standard Gauge but with a slightly odd larger scale ish certainly fitting into Gizzy Gizzy ‘s suggested search. Double buffers each end but little prototypical that would run on his desired Dutch station though some of the rolling stock would work. Pricewise these days on the up though older loco stock with non plated wheels much cheeper and very suitable for conversion to battery power, in fact for the non plated wheels I would say it is compulsory. Heavy on German prototypes.
 
pugwash said:
or the next time gauge 1 is 1:32 and the track should be 44.45mm. For gauge 1 locos and stock take a look at ebay.de as Märklin are big in this scale but be warned, the prices will make you go WHAAAAT?
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Yes i know the prices are WHAAAAT! and no question mark.
Thats why i am so eager on diy builds, especially the bigger ones and live steamers....they go up really quick.
Also there are some loco's that i want that are not even for sale or existing in 1:32.
Red devil for example or some Eeries or some Pasific's, Chesapeake let alone the AA20, drowling again, sorry.

even a little correct 5 meter radii turn out starts at 200 euro.


korm kormsen said:
if you got some time, let your brain get twisted by some scale lists. scales
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Yes, thanks, i stick to 1at32 scale, it is very easy to calculate to mm, and not others.
I made a screen copy from your site so i can see before a bidding or buy now what i dont want.
The era of "just" n h0 or g scale is over, g scale was in my mind always lgb, big and ruf.

korm kormsen said:
beware if you look on german ebay, don't look for spur 1 / spoor 1 - for that they charge you a leg and an arm!
Maerklin maxi and all the other toys, that sail under the name Spur 1 are for millionaires only.
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We dont have kids, just some dogs all is good with the house and bills and we can not take the money thru the gate of st Peter.
But yes if you want to have some nice loco's, it will cost you a lot.
But time you can not make, money you can, i will hobby in my shed.

"grootspoor" i know them very well, they are not even 30 km away from me.
I find them pretty expensive.
On ebay and such i can buy some experimental loco's, even thinking about to buy only for the frame and rebuild the frame for a other loco'.
We will see, first a lathe with a router from HBM.

dunnyrail said:
Probably for justme igor justme igor Piko may be his best bet
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Piko, i will refine my search for those ones, lets see whats coming up.
dunnyrail said:
Pricewise these days on the up though older loco stock with non plated wheels much cheeper and very suitable for conversion to battery power
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Exactly what i would like, non of that dcc or computer programs, easy on converting to battery power, there is a lot of track to drive in the future.
For wheels, cylinders and such i am glad i can sand cast...
3d printer to make a bigger model, put into sand, cast metal, work with a lathe and a router for grinding work.

Last weekend i joined a club in the Netherlands that is working on and with metals incl "hard solder" they make steam engines.
Only difference i do is: i put wheels under the engine:D:D:D


Thanks for all the replays, got myself some food for my thoughts.

Best Igor.
 
Yes the "g" stuff is more like playing (playmobile and such) and the "1" stuff is more correct.....
The brand Piko, i did not find it in 1 yet, only in N and H0....
But i will look out for the Piko...bought some nice NS loco's and cars in N scale.....was my childhood, sorry.(NS= Nederlandse Spoorwegen = Dutch railroad transportation company)

Back to "1" or "G".....advice is still appreciated to search for 1:32 (spur/track/gauge/spoor 1) model, brand, experiment
Marklin seems to be the big winner? at 1:32.

What about their tracks.....Marklin needs a very wide gap? up to 3mm?!??!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTFH!
Prototypical, correct? no way!

I really like the feedback from you all, all makes sense! Keep it coming, it is appreciated.
Even when you think it would not make any sense, just because "it works or does not" I would like to know!

So the "1" at 45mm track and 1:32 is the one? for me? and no "G" ? I saw a nice "g" scale wagon sold for 9 euro....playmobile like...

With best regards Igor.

Sorry, before i go full scale and production builing my tracks i want to make sure i have everything in the correct order.
This is also the reason i did not post so much in the link in my signature about track making....and i think i am pretty god at making tracks, that is what i think, tests will prove.
 
There is one thing that springs to mind about the track, with LGB being 1:22.5 and Gauge 1 being 1:32 you may have trouble with the track. Not the gauge but the sleepers, they will be the wrong size and spacing for what you want so building your own track seems to be the only option.
 
It might be worth buying a length of 'gauge 1' track?

G Scale track (the likes of LGB) is really chunky, and overscale. - Robust, and designed to be abused.

Gauge 1 track is a lot 'finer'.

PhilP
 
PhilP said:
It might be worth buying a length of 'gauge 1' track?
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At EUR 25.20 / GBP 21.67 per meter? That will make a bit of an expensive test piece.
 
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