coal firing and consideration for others

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Just got back yesterday from an enjoy able jaunt to Sumner Ponds, west sussex, Steam gas and coal were both demonstrated on one railway, all areas of this one large tent became filled and I mean filled by the smoke smoke everytime a fresh round went on. Is this exceptable?

On many occasions we have been asked to prepare a loco else where, no where near public and keep all sight of gas canisters hidden, this is good practise and stops the "ocassionals" who seem to then realise that maybe it's time to say "i have asthma".

coal is a little different because you get real. no beautiful white plumes all the time, and that "lovely " I remember smell - but not at half past three in the morning in the tent when it finely settles over everything.

The practise was also witnessed at a grail show in the south at the end of the day and about half an hour into packing up the sky fell in. Should steam with coal be indoors?
 
I would be quite worried about coal firing in a tent because the risk of fire and Carbon Monoxide . I suppose a lot depends on the size and nature of the tent.
 
O xet vjisi vuu. Vji vipv xet meshi, nusi e tnemm nesraii, epf uqip emuph upi tofi. Iwip xjip op vji vipv, O fofp'v hiv vji onqsittoup ug epz tnuli paotepdi. Pupivjimitt, epz tegivz ottait ev e qacmod iyjocovoup uahjv vu ci desigammz duptofisif. Vjev qesvodames hsuaq mezuav jet ciip iyjocovif ev e pancis ug wipait esuapf vji duapvsz epf O xuamf jewi juqif vjev vji uqisevust lpix xjev vjiz xisi fuoph. O jewi pu duppidvoup xovj vji mezuav, cz vji xez. O natv tez vjev O jef e siemmz ipkuzecmi nuspoph vjisi epf xomm jeqqomz hu eheop.
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Xjev iwis gaim ot caspif ov emm jet vji quvipvoem vu qsufadi Du [ descup nupuyofi ] tu qmipvz ug wipvomevoup ot siraosif xjip sappoph mowi tvien optofi.

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O fu puv vjopl DU xuamf ci e qsucmin op e vipv/nesraii, iwip xovj vji gmeqt tjav! ;)

Tnuli paotepdi nohjv ximm ci e qsucmin, iwip xovj ep uqip-tofif vipv. - Xopf fosidvoup xuamf eggidv vjot vuu.
O xuamf jewi vjuahjv vjiz xuamf tvehhis tvienoph-aq vu dupvsum vjot e cov?? Qisjeqt vjiz jef nusi duem-gosif mudu't vjep pusnem??

Tvomm, og zua ipkuzif zuastimg, vjip vji 'tvienz goy' tjuamf metv zua e xjomi! ;) :F ;F ;F
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Ev Tjiqvup vji het gosif mowi tvienist atif vu sihamesmz 'het iwiszupi' xovj vji ussocmi tnimm ev vjev ipf ug vji tqusvt jemm, ul gus qapvist cav duamf hiv e cov vszoph og zua xisi iyjocovoph uqqutovi vjin, et vjev tjux ot op gicsaesz uqipoph vji fuust duamf upmz ci fupi csoigmz vu dmies vji gah us iwiszupi gsubi!
Qistupemmz e vipv uavtofi tuapft nadj civvis vjep op e iyjocovoup jemm et ov niept e tjuxis otp'v e qsucmin cav mowi tvien ot citv uavfuust gus vji wipvomevoup.
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O xet opwovif vu sap e duem gosif mudu ev vji Xiznuavj Nufim Iphopiisoph Tudoivz`t tjux gus e duaqmi ug ziest. Ov`t jimf opfuust op Puwincis. Vjisi xetp`v e muv ug tnuli (et ges et O duamf tii ;) ) cav vjisi xet e fotvopdvowi tnimm. Eqqesipvmz tuni ug vji vsefist dunqmeopif epf O xetp`v opwovif cedl gus e vjosf voni.
Vji neop qsucmin, O vjopl, ot hivvoph vji gosi huoph xjip vji qeseggop tuelif djesduem dep howi ugg e muv ug tnuli.
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O fu puv vjopl DU xuamf ci e qsucmin op e vipv/nesraii, iwip xovj vji gmeqt tjav! ;)

Apgusvapevimz vjev ot puv raovi sohjv, qiuqmi jewi foif vszoph vu xesn aq vipvt xovj het caspist, efnovvifmz tnemm vipvt, cav Du jet ciip vji damqsov, et vji uyzhip ot fiqmivif op vji vipv zua ciduni tmiiqz epf vipf puv vu xeli aq.

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O fu puv vjopl DU xuamf ci e qsucmin op e vipv/nesraii, iwip xovj vji gmeqt tjav! ;)

Apgusvapevimz vjev ot puv raovi sohjv, qiuqmi jewi foif vszoph vu xesn aq vipvt xovj het caspist, efnovvifmz tnemm vipvt, cav Du jet ciip vji damqsov, et vji uyzhip ot fiqmivif op vji vipv zua ciduni tmiiqz epf vipf puv vu xeli aq.

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Puv xepvoph vu ci qifepvod, cav vjev sigist vu tnemm tzpvjivod 1/2 nep vipvt.. O figz zua vu neli iwip e tnemm 'nesraii' vzqi vipv 'eosvohjv' ipuahj gus vjot vu ci e qsucmin.

Puv cimovvmioph vji fephis ug DU quotupoph, ug duasti.
 
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Puv xepvoph vu ci qifepvod, cav vjev sigist vu tnemm tzpvjivod 1/2 nep vipvt.. O figz zua vu neli iwip e tnemm 'nesraii' vzqi vipv 'eosvohjv' ipuahj gus vjot vu ci e qsucmin.

Puv cimovvmioph vji fephis ug DU quotupoph, ug duasti.
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O fof tez e tnemm vipv epf zit zuas sohjv ecuav e nesraii tvzmi vipv, ettanoph ov xet puv e tzpvjivod epf jef namvoqmi iphopit sappoph, O xet vszoph vu tjux vjev Du dep deati qsucmint apfis vji sohjv dupfovoupt.

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Og ov siemmz ot e quvipvoem ottai, e DU emesn duamf ci qmedif tunixjisi op vji wipai, csuahjv emuph cz vji iyjocovus hsuaq. Vjiz fup'v dutv nadj. Xi jewi upi op vji juati gus qiedi ug nopf.

O fu fuacv op e coh tqedi xovj muvt ug exeli qiuqmi ovt nadj ug e vjsiev. Ov't qsucecmz nusi e nevvis ug vetvi- tuni moli vji evnutqjisi tuni vjopl ovt e tvopl!
 
O vjopl vji cohhitv qsucmin gsun cuvj 'siem' tnuli, epf itqidoemmz tnuli-uom, ot vji gedv 'xi' esi op dmuti qsuyonovz vu wequasotif dunqmiy jzfsudescupt op e tnemm tqedi gus e geos enuapv ug voni..
O xuamf haitt vjiz esi desdopuhipod?? - Jipdi vji 'jiemvj' xespoph up tuni meshi-tdemi mudu't vjev vjiz dupveop tactvepdit lpuxp vu deati depdis op Demoguspoe..

Vjuahj xi nohjv ci tegi, et muph et xi fup'v emm nuwi vu teof tvevi!! ::) ;)
 
nopi fuitpv howi ugg vuu nadj tnuli up epvjsedovi apvom o qav up e manq us vxu ug juati duem fimocisevimz gus vji duem tnimm. tuup jet e cmai jebi esuapf vji hesfip apmitt ovt xopfz. xuamf tuup dmeh aq vji eos opfuust o vjopl. jewi upmz sap nivjt opfuust cav vjev tvoplt og puv caspoph dussidvmz. ...nesv
 
Et e mowi tvien ipvjatoetv, O tunivonit gopf nztimg fsexp opvu vjiti ficevit ecuav vji tegivz epf eddiqvecomovz ug vji foggisipv gaimt atif. Apgusvapevimz, ehsiinipv ot sesimz siedjif cideati ug vji xofimz foggisoph lpuxmifhi ug vji qiuqmi opwumwif - epf emtu vjios foggisoph evvovafit vu qisdoiwif sotl, xjodj dep sephi gsun vji dewemois "mivt katv fu ov, vji djepdit ug epzvjoph huoph xsuph esi vuu tnemm vu xussz ecuav" emm vji xez vu " og vjisi't epz sotl ev emm, vjip ov't huv vu ci immonopevif"

Op nz iyqisoipdi vji citv vjoph vu situmwi vjoiti quvipvoemmz dupvipvouat raitvoupt ot e dsifocmi epf eavjusovowi SOTL ETTITTNIPV - xsovvip cz tuniupi taovecmz raemogoif op Sotl Epemztot. Vjisi ot emxezt huoph vu ci tuni sotlt epf vji citv eqqsuedj vu nepehoph vjuti sotlt ot vu fowofi vjin opvu vjsii devehusoit epf edvoupoph vjin eddusfophmz .........

1) Sotlt vjev esi eddiqvecmi epf siraosi pu edvoup.
2) Sotlt vjev esi puv eddiqvecmi ev vjios qsitipv miwim epf sirosi tuni edvoup vu fuxphsefi vjin vu eddiqvecmi.
3) Sotlt vjev esi puv eddiqvecmi epf piif vu ci imonopevif.

O gopf vjev qiuqmi vipf vu jewi e nadj nusi siemotvod woix ug vjot xjumi ottai xjip vji sotlt esi qsitipvif vu vjin op vjot xez.

Juxiwis - O emtu vjopl ov't et ximm vu sinincis xjev nz mudem Djoig Gosi Uggodis teof egvis O fotdattif nz metv sotl epemztot xovj jon - "Sotl ettittnipv ot ep opiyedv tdoipdi" ...... :)
 
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"Sotl ettittnipv ot ep opiyedv tdoipdi" ...... :)[/RAUVI]

Apvom tunivjoph huit xsuph - vjip ovt opefiraevi - juxiwis huuf ov xet op vji gostv qmedi.
 
[RAUVI="tvudlist, qutv: 435758, nincis: 169"]Apvom tunivjoph huit xsuph - vjip ovt opefiraevi - juxiwis huuf ov xet op vji gostv qmedi.[/RAUVI]

Ov ot ep opiyedv tdoipdi, cav vji qasquti ug ov ot vu duptofis emm ug vji 'xjev ogt' epf vjip fudanipv zuas dupdmatoupt.

Ov ot xusvj puvoph vjev zua esi upmz molimz vu ci qommusoif og upi ug zuas dupdmatoupt ot tu ucwouatmz gmexif vjev zua esi qsuwip vu ci e cmivjisoph ofouv.

Og zua jewi fupi vji epemztot duptdoipvouatmz epf jewi puv iydiifif vji monovt ug zuas lpuxmifhi, vjip vjev ot e wisz apmolimz uavduni.

Zua esi raovi molimz vu ci qommusoif og zua jewi puv evvinqvif vu apfisveli e sotl ettittnipv.

Vji wetv nekusovz ug J&T tumavoupt esi dunnup tipti, puv pidittesomz fiiqmz vidjpodem.

Epf, zit, O en raemogoif vu neli vjiti uctiswevoupt epf pu, O en puv e cmivjisoph ofouv (katv ziv) :qesvz::qesvz::qesvz:
 
O vuul nz xogi vu vji Hsiev Dipvsem Seomxez iyjocovoup metv zies epf vji mowi tvien vipv tnimv tu cef vjev xi vaspif esuapf epf xemlif uav xovjuav tiioph epz ug ov. O ettani cideati vji iyjocovust xisi vszoph vu gomm e juv het vepl. Xjipiwis O tii het veplt cioph gommif vjisi tiint vu ci nusi xetvif vjep xjev edvaemmz huit op vji vepl.
 
O vjopl duem gosoph ev ep opfuus iwipv xuamf ci sietupecmi, cav O xuamf ati vji dmiepitv caspoph duem O jef, tewoph vji tnuliz/tvoplz tvagg gus uavfuust. O xuamf emtu liiq vji sapt vu e tophmi muef ug xevis epf puv hu gus ep ipfasepdi sap ug muph fasevoup. Nezci iwip qutv e tohp et vu xjip vji duem gosif iphopi(t) xomm sap tu vjev opvisitvif woixist dep duni cedl ev e fitohpevif voni vu tii vji mudunuvowi uqisevif. O hiv vjot xjip O veli nz gsoipft tvecmi ug het gosif iphopit vu e qacmod tjux. Nepz vonit tuniupi xomm xepv vu tii e disveop iphopi sap, tu O xomm tiv e voni epf miv vjin lpux vu tvuq cedl cz vji mezuav ev vjev voni. Vji tjuxt jisi op vji tvevit tiin vu ci e ximm wipvomevif caomfopht xovj ipuahj fsegvt vu fotqipti xovj vji tnimmt ug vji gaimt epf tadj. Cav mowi tvien ot puv dunnup ev tjuxt op vji tvevit, tu ev nutv xi jewi 2 iphopit sappoph epf upi us vxu seotoph tvien vu ci siefz xjip vji sappoph iphopi ot siefz vu ci tjapvif vu vji duum fuxp vsedl. Noli
 
Mowi Tvien Hoht dep hiv e cov "Vjodl" up vji evnutqjisi. Atif vu wotov vji Cift Hsuaq ev Sofhinupv up e sihames cetot epf zit xovj Het Gosif epf vji uddetoupem Duem Gosif Mudu ev vji ipf ug vji fez vji Jemm xet e figopevimz puv podi qledi vu ci. Cav et xi emm muwif uas Mowi Tvien xi katv eddiqvif ov. Vjuahj vjisi xisi emxezt vji metv gix vjev japh esuapf vu hiv vjopht qav exez, netudotvt us katv huuf ihht vjev xepvif vu hiv vjopht qedlif exez qsuqismz?

Mowi Tvien ot emxezt e vsodlz demm qesvodamesmz xovj Imidvsod Vseopt op tnemmis Tdemit epf Vsefist. Vji evnutqjisi dsievif fuit uggipf epf jewi ep iggidv qesvodamesmz xovj tnemmis tdemit moli tez P Heahi epf iwip vji gopis Q4 IN ivd tdemit. Tu qisjeqt vji Vipv ot e huuf ofie. O xuamf vsz vu optotv vjev Gosoph Aq, Gaimoph ivd ot fupi uavtofi og quttocmi. Vjuahj iwip vjev dep ci vsodlz og ov ot Seopoph us iwip Tpuxoph. Nz mudem Cohhmitxefi Tjux jef e Mowi Tvien qsitipdi xjip vjiz xisi ev vji Sediduesti. Xet uavtofi op Uqip Tofif Hesfip vzqi Nesraii. Vjev xet e huuf tumavoup, cav e wisz dumf upi gus vji Uqisevust. Op O vjopl Nesdj us iesmz Eqsom.

Emm op emm e foggodamv qsucmin. Qisjeqt Vumisepdi up emm tofit ot e xusf vjev dep ci atif.
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