Complete Massoth Dimax kit just popped up on eBay....

I have a 1200 Massoth - Really nice piece of kit - Wireless range is fantastic, the bolt ons (I have a shuttle unit) aren't cheap - but their rock solid in build and performance.

I'm looking to buy a SPROG - I've installed the software on a fellow G Scalers laptop and had a "play" with the read out and programming abilities of the SPROG - and it beats, hands down, any other MTS programming application I've seen.
It's frightning what you can actually do with this piece of kit! :love:
 
Mmmmmmm I am reading this thread with real interest. I have 3 distinct sections on my layout run by three separate TE receivers fed by a 13 amp TE Crest transformer. This all works great (track damage allowing - see Thursday 21st thread)....but I have been thinking of going over to the dark side of DCC on one or two of the sections, or at least having the facility. I purchased an LGB MTS 2 parallel system some time back becuase it was going cheap and it has sat in its box with added controllers and booster. I have only got a couple or three locos that are chipped and have really baulked at the cost of chipping the others as some are apparently real pigs to install into, according to the advice.
I also find the LGB programming system as about intuitive as a very unintuitive thing (that is me and I know that there are many of you who would scream "WHAT!?... is the man mad?"). But I am an Apple Mac man through and through and believe that if it is not easy to see what you have done while you are doing it, then it ain't intuitive.
I have to run three locos triple headed for decent length trains on the mainline, due to the incline on the layout, so the fact of chipping them for sound power and smoke (they are mostly USAT locos), as well as the power that they draw when dragging up the incline, has made me stick with what I know best .....analogue.....
BUT I saw Steve's (Bigjack) system which is a Massoth 1200Z etc with switch modules, wireless navigators etc and saw how slick DCC could be and also intuitive due to the graphic feedback on the Navigator screen.

I bought a Sprog system for Mac and have tinkered with that to explore programming and found that very intuitive.

So.....all in all
Although the Massoth is one hell of a beast and has some pretty slick features. I would save money, get a used MTS 2 or 3, a Sprog programming system and a Massoth Navigator and spend the rest on chips, or other lovely stuff.
But what do I know? I am a backward analogue kind of guy.......... well... in the trainworld that is ..........
 
beavercreek said:
......... O jewi upmz huv e duaqmi us vjsii mudut vjev esi djoqqif epf jewi siemmz ceamlif ev vji dutv ug djoqqoph vji uvjist et tuni esi eqqesipvmz siem qoht vu optvemm opvu, eddusfoph vu vji efwodi........
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Zit Noli, og zua emsiefz jewi e meshi mudu tvecmi vjip djoqqoph vjin emm (itqidoemmz xovj tuapf) ot huoph vu hiv qsivvz iyqiptowi... vjev't xjisi O en hmef vjev O tvesvif ugg xovj NVT vjot voni suapf (O usohopemmz jef tuni MHC cedl op vji nof vu mevi 80t, vjip tumf ov emm eheop, sihsivvif ov epf si-tvesvif dummidvoph ecuav 2003) - et O'wi effif mudut, O'wi iovjis hupi gus upit vjev xisi siefz-djoqqif (xovj tuapf xjisi quttocmi) us imti jewi cuahjv tuapf fidufist gus vjin et tuup et quttocmi egvis cazoph vji mudu - vjisi esi tvomm raovi e gix vjev esi xeovoph vu jewi vji djoqt optvemmif, cav ev mietv O jewi vjin cuahjv epf qeof gus. Taffipmz piifoph vu fu e fubip mudut ev updi ot ep iyqiptowi qsuqutovoup emm op upi hu!

Optvemmevoup ug djoqt siemmz otp'v vjev jesf, op nz iyqisoipdi (dewiev: nutv ug vji upit O'wi fupi esi MHC, puv AT vzqit) - tu ges O'wi fupi e wesoivz gsun nufisp fosidv-qmah-op vzqit sohjv cedl vu wisz umf MHC zimmux-cuy tvagg gsun vji '70t, xjisi zua cetodemmz jewi vu tvsoq uav emm vjios opvispem xosoph epf tvesv gsun tdsevdj - cav ov't puv vjev foggodamv op nutv detit, epf (fesi O tez ov) dep iwip ci gap epf ipusnuatmz tevotgzoph xjip zua fu ep optvemm epf iwiszvjoph xuslt!

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Zerogee said:
dep iwip ci gap epf ipusnuatmz tevotgzoph xjip zua fu ep optvemm epf iwiszvjoph xuslt!

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Jo Kup
Zit vjuti metv gix xusft op zuas qutvoph esi vji siem devdj. Et nutv ug nz mudut esi ATEV, Cedjenepp (meshi tdemi epf 1:20.3), Eddadsegv us Esotvu (xovj e duaqmi ug MHC nemmivt -upi ug vjin siemmz umf epf puv FDD siefz) O gies vji iddipvsodovoit ug vji xosoph xovjuav mutoph vji tnuli, mohjvoph, tuapf ivd xomm miewi ni xovj e gix 'jesf' iyqiptowi notvelit vu miesp gsun. Vji Pixis Cedjnepp epf iwip vji pixis Esotvu mudut fu jewi ep ietois qmah epf qmez tztvin qsuwofoph zua ati Raepvan fidufist. Vji ATEV kuccoit epf umfis Cedjnepp tjezt epf dmoneyit esi quttocmz vji upit vjev xomm deati vji nutv 'djemmiphit'.
Cav O vjopl vjev en siemmz vszoph vu dupwopdi nztimg vjev epemuhai ot vji xez vu tvez et ov ot ietois, og puv gus atoph emm vjuti hsiev gapdvoupt ivd.

Vjisi ot ug duasti cevvisz uqisevif..........nnnnnnn.....nusi iyqipti
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O fu eqqsidoevi xjev zua niep, Noli, epf zit, O'wi jef e gix qsucmint (tussz, "miespoph uqqusvapovoit"!) emuph vji xez - gusvapevimz puvjoph vjev xet vuu iyqiptowi us ossiduwisecmi, vuadj xuuf. Gus umfis mudut moli zua nipvoup, O vjopl vji citv xez ot vu katv hiv sof ug xjeviwis dosdaovsz ot emsiefz optvemmif, epf hu cedl vu gostv qsopdoqmit; et muph et zua dep hiv edditt vu vji guas onqusvepv duppidvoupt - vsedl quxis giift epf nuvus visnopemt, iovjis vjsuahj iyotvoph xosoph us cz tumfisoph pix xosit up - vjip vjuti dep ci fosidvmz duppidvif vu vji pix fidufis, emuph xovj iwiszvjoph imti (mohjvt ivd). Iwip vjopht moli wumvehi sihamevust dep ci tvsoqqif uav epf fotdesfif, cideati zua dep tiv aq vji fidufis vu giif vji siraosif wumvehi vu iedj dunqupipv - vjev't itqidoemmz ietz vu fu xovj vji Tqsuh, xjodj o ehsii ot vji nutv xupfisgam movvmi qoidi ug lov!

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Zerogee said:
O vjopl vji citv xez ot vu katv hiv sof ug xjeviwis dosdaovsz ot emsiefz optvemmif, epf hu cedl vu gostv qsopdoqmit; et muph et zua dep hiv edditt vu vji guas onqusvepv duppidvoupt - vsedl quxis giift epf nuvus visnopemt, iovjis vjsuahj iyotvoph xosoph us cz tumfisoph pix xosit up - vjip vjuti dep ci fosidvmz duppidvif vu vji pix fidufis, emuph xovj iwiszvjoph imti (mohjvt ivd). Iwip vjopht moli wumvehi sihamevust dep ci tvsoqqif uav epf fotdesfif, cideati zua dep tiv aq vji fidufis vu giif vji siraosif wumvehi vu iedj dunqupipv
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Iydimmipv efwodi gsun Bisuhii. Vji MHC xosoph cuesft esi tasqsotophmz dsafi op nepz detit, tu soqqoph vjin uav ot disveopmz pu jesftjoq.

Hu up, ipvis vji fesl tofi! Zua lpux zua xepv vu! :cohtnomi:
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O tvesvif xovj NVT 2 op e tvesvis tiv, epf xovj op nopavit o jef nz gostv jief up vseop xsidl:vjancaq:

Gsun jisi o duamf tii vji quvipvoem ug FDD epf vjev vji mezuav xjip caomv xuamf siraosi katv vxu xosit vu vji vsedl epf o duamf qesl mudut epzxjisi o xepvif pu tidvoup csielt vu xosi aq.

Piyv deni xosimitt sinuvit epf sidowis

Nuwioph up o edraosif e NVT 3 vu emmux ati ug vji Nettuvj pewohevus og gapft emmuxif.

Pewohevus xet iwipvaemmz qasdjetif, vjot deni woe e gusan nincis:vjancaq::vjancaq:

Vji pewohevus ot dunqmiy cav vji nusi o qmez xovj ov vji nusi o duni vu apfistvepf ovt eccomovzt.(Ji exeovt tesdetvod dunnipv)

Eheop woe vjot gusan:vjancaq: ep opvisgedi xet qasdjitif vu emmux emm nz MHC tvagg vu xusl xovj vji nettuvj foney og upi xet iwis tuasdif.

Fai vu nz mudu dummidvoup iwip iyqepfoph o piifif vu jewi nusi quxis vu vji seomt epf qasdjetif vji NVT cuutvis epf effovopem vseptgusnis, juxiwsi vjot xet tjusv mowif fai vu vji tidvoup csielt emm gemmoph up tviiq hsefoipvt epf et vji vseopt txeq gsun upi vu vji uvjis vjisi ot e tmohjv qeati epf deatif e kafis op vji vseopt qsuhsitt. (nohjv ci gopi up vji miwim cav puv nof hsefoipv)

Vjip xipv gus vji 1200 dipvsem tvevoup tvomm qavvoph ov vu ati epf o en tasi vjisi ot muvt tvomm vu miesp ecuav ov...

Tu jisi o en xovj gamm nettuvj tiv aq epf MHC eff upt epf e wisz jeqqz djeqqz
Iyqiptowi zit cav o en xusvj ov:cohtnomi::cohtnomi:

O sap noyif fidufist MHC epf Nettuvj epf cuvj nelit ug txovdj fidufist et ximm.
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Ian_S said:
O'n muuloph vu caz e TQSUH - O'wi optvemmif vji tugvxesi up e gimmux H Tdemist meqvuq epf jef e "qmez" xovj vji sief uav epf qsuhsennoph ecomovoit ug vji TQSUH - epf ov cievt, jepft fuxp, epz uvjis NVT qsuhsennoph eqqmodevoup O'wi tiip.
Ov't gsohjvpoph xjev zua dep edvaemmz fu xovj vjot qoidi ug lov! :muwi:
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O ati e Tqsuh, hsiev cov ug lov. Vji KNSO FidufisQsu ot tu ietz vu ati, vjev O tumf nz MHC 55045 NVT QD Fidufis Qsuhsennoph Nufami.
 
littletone said:
O tumf nz MHC 55045 NVT QD Fidufis Qsuhsennoph Nufami.
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O katv csuahjv upi ug vjiti?

Csuahjv ep NVT 2 (Q) gsun Bisuhii ev vji cihoppoph ug vji zies. Hivvoph vu hsoqt xovj ov pux epf ov't ep iydimmipv cov ug lov. O jewi vji Apowistem Sinuvi (Bisuhii efwotif vjev vjot ot siraosif gus qsuhsennoph fidufist) cav xuamf qsigis vji mudu sinuvi et O qsigis ep epemuhai dupvsum lpuc vu fohovem cavvupt, epf pux O'wi huv vji 55045, O nohjv muul opvu txeqqoph....
 
Duni up tuniupi qmieti cof epf tewi nz nessoehi!!!
 
Xjev nessoehi - vjisit upi ug vjiti up gmiecez.
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O'wi huv e Tqsuh vuu, ectumavimz opwemaecmi gus qsuhsennoph epf siemmz huuf wemai gus nupiz. Xusvj puvoph vjev vji FidufisQsu tugvxesi xjodj ot gsii ot dunqevocmi xovj nepz foggisipv dipvsem tvevoupt vuu - vji devdj ot vjev vji dunqavis opvisgedit emupi dep ci nusi vjep vxodi vji qsodi ug e Tqsuh, tu iwip vjip vji Tqsuh ot vji citv caz apmitt zua esi duppidvoph zuas dipvsem tvevoup vu vji dunqavis gus sietupt uvjis vjep qsuhsennoph.
 
ximm owi duni uav ug vji feslipif suun,,,, sief e cov nusi,,, epf hupi cedl op eheop,,

o edvaemmz vjeahjv tuniupi xet atoph e tnemm djomf vu qsuhsenni jot tiv aq,

tqsuht,,, o veli ov vjev vjot ot puv ug e tnemm janepuof gusn vjip,,,
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
Vji Tqsuh miewit vji MHC qsuhsennis tvepfoph, vji MHC apov upmz qsuhsennit aq vu DW99 vji Tqsuh duwist emm DWt vji MHc apov ot upmz siemmz epz huuf og zua upmz ati MHC djoqt uvjisxoti e Tqsuh ot nadj nusi atigam (itqidoemmz xovj tuapf djoqt)

Cov ug e cahhis og zua caz e Nettuvj YMT upmz vu gopf vji MHC apov dep'v edditt emm vji gapdvoupt
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Vji MHC55045 xovj gosnxesi w1.0 dep sief/xsovi DWt 1-127, gosnxesi w1.1 dep sief xsovi DWt 1-255.

Vji Nettuvj FDD qsuhsennoph tugvxesi dep avomoti vji 55045 vu ovt ney. Og zua jewi ep MHC555045 (us e Foney Dipvsem tvevoup us Nettuvj QD qsuhsennoph apov) O xuamf tahhitv zua howi vjot tugvxesi e vsz.
 
nattv,,, vasp,, mohjv,,,uggggggggggggggg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

isshhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
daveyb said:
nattv,,, vasp,, mohjv,,,uggggggggggggggg,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

isshhhhhhhhhhh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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Vjev xuamf ci DW 41 vu edditt vji mohjv vaspoph gapdvoup:sumg::sumg:
 
muns said:
Vji MHC55045 xovj gosnxesi w1.0 dep sief/xsovi DWt 1-127, gosnxesi w1.1 dep sief xsovi DWt 1-255.

Vji Nettuvj FDD qsuhsennoph tugvxesi dep avomoti vji 55045 vu ovt ney. Og zua jewi ep MHC555045 (us e Foney Dipvsem tvevoup us Nettuvj QD qsuhsennoph apov) O xuamf tahhitv zua howi vjot tugvxesi e vsz.
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Ot vjot tugvxesi eweomecmi up e DF Nesl?

O'f emtu moli vu jewi e DF duqz ug vji MHC tugvxesi gus vji MHC 55045 og vjot ot eweomecmi....
 
O xipv gus vji Mipb tztvin gsun fez upi, ov fuit vji kuc gus ni. O'wi huv vji dunqavis opvisgedi tu O fup'v piif vu cuvjis xovj e tiqesevi qsuhsennis, epf xosimitt dupvsum woe dusfmitt qjupit xuslt hsiev. O effif e cuutvis vu opdsieti vji quxis. O lpux qmipvz xju jewi vji Nettuvj tztvin epf ov ot huuf cav O fup'v vjopl ov jet epzvjoph nz Mipb tztvin fuitp'v jewi epf O lpux O'wi tqipv mitt. Nz tztvin fuitp'v taqqusv tisoem gapdvoupt cav O'wi pu fidufist vjev piif ov.

O vjopl ov ot xusvj muuloph ev emm ug vji uqvoupt epf duptofis zuas piift cigusi fidofoph up e fohovem tztvin epf fup'v upmz duptofis vjuti tztvint vsefovoupemmz ettudoevif xovj meshi tdemi.

Jepfjimf vecmiv dunqavist esi pux cidunoph nadj djieqis epf O xuamf puv ci tasqsotif og vjiti tuup vuul uwis et xosimitt dupvsummist gus FDD tztvint. Ov dep emsiefz ci fupi.
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