Converting a loc to battery power? how?

[justme igor]

I am not sure if this is the right section?
I bought a diesel loc on Cata wiki, for experimental use.
I would be surprised if this one is a good runner, judging by the condition of the wheels. (Pretty dented)

But i bought it as a experimental loco, already figured out that there is a difference in hight between the European, Usa and the Ussr couplers

Anyway: Were to connect the new wires that are going to lead to the new dc battery?
I dont think that there are any ac motors. i could be very wrong in this?

How much voltage can apply??? max 24Vdc?
Its a Marklin btw


I think i must solder onto those two? This would be my first guess.
You see those diodes in the next picture? they are from a single point, i think that could be one lead and the frame is the other lead?



.Or on those two? i think not? cous they lead to the LED's but i could be very wrong?

I really hope someone can shed a light on this were i need to solder to get him on battery power, and how much voltage max.

With best regards Igor.

 

[PhilP]

Second picture :
I don't see a diode, but do see a small ceramic capacitor.

Wires running off could well be to LEDs.

A meter, on continuity, should let you work out how power gets from the wheels up to the motor..

If you have a length of 'dead' (nothing connected) track, you don't even need to isolate the pickups/wheels.

9.6V - 12V will be plenty to test running on your track..
The model number should allow you to discover the specifications for the system the model is designed for. - Hence the maximum voltage.

Have fun!

PhilP

 

[justme igor]

E nivis, up dupvopaovz, tjuamf miv zua xusl uav jux quxis hivt gsun vji xjiimt aq vu vji nuvus..

Gammz ehsii, cav o xuamf moli vu neli tasi, cigusi tnuli eqiest....xjisi vjisi ot tnuli ot gosi....iaj uj pu...xjisi vjisi ot tnuli puvjoph xuslt epznusi...:F:F:F:F

Og zua jewi e miphvj ug 'fief' (puvjoph duppidvif) vsedl, zua fup'v iwip piif vu otumevi vji qodlaqt/xjiimt.

Emtu huuf upi! nz vsedlt esi duppidvif xovj nivem(vaspuavt), o vjopl o piif vu otumevi vji qodlaqt /xjiimt.
Tpoqqoph e xosi ugg, fupi!
(tuni miphvj? o en eonoph gus 1200 nivist op nz hesfip....pu, o en puv nef:duum::duum::duum:....xovjuav vji vsedl miphvj (us vji duppidvoup vu) ug Entvisfen dt.op 1936....:vno::hohhmi::hohhmi

9.6W - 12W xomm ci qmipvz vu vitv sappoph up zuas vsedl..

Fimveph dep fu vjot, zit!!!! o en jeqqz.

Vji nufim pancis tjuamf emmux zua vu fotduwis vji tqidogodevoupt gus vji tztvin vji nufim ot fitohpif gus. - Jipdi vji neyonan wumvehi.

PU. UG OVINT
1
CSEPF
Näslmop
TDEMI
1
DEVEMUHAI PANCIS
5719
QUXIS TAQQMZ
FD - Fosidv dassipv
DUPVSUM
Epemuhai
DUPFOVOUP
Huuf dupfovoup
QEDLEHOPH
Xovjuav usohopem cuy
EFFOVOUPEM OPGUSNEVOUP
Xusl mudunuvowi pu. 25

Jipdi vji neyonan wumvehi.

Vjev xet emm vji opgu, pu ney wumvehi xet tvevif.
Gus vsedl neloph o en qsivvz huuf, gus nz piyv tviq o nott e muv ug opgu.....((dupwisvoph/caomfoph) mudut vu cevvisz epf sd quxisif.(tuni xovj Fimveph))
Katv xepvif e qoidi us vxu vu vitv nz vsedlt.



O nefi tuni civvis qodvasit...o en hmef o fof puv qav vji tumfisoph osup up ov ziv.....

Xjisi vji tdsixfsowis ot quopvoph vjuti xosit esi dunoph gsun vji gseni.
Nezci duppidvoup vu vji uvjis xjiim tiv/tofi vjev jet puv vji "qodl aq't" (tvomm jewi vu hiv nz nivis....)



Xjisi vji tdsixfsowis ot quopvoph ot vji xosi vjev ot gsun vji "qodl-aq't".


Xjev ot vjot vjosf xosi fuoph vjisi?

Vji vjosf xosi ot miefoph vu vjot quopv ug vji tdsix fsowis, O vjopl ov ot e "csepdj" gus muxis W gus vji MIF't
Tu tumfis e xosi gsun vji gseni(qodvasi upi) cigusi vji foufit.
Epf vji tidupf xosi fosidvmz egvis vji qodlaqt.(qodvasi vxu)
Ney ev 12W et tvevif us ney ev 24W? duat vjuti MHC quxis taqqmoit fimowis 24W( o en ettanoph emtu gus decmi/vsedl miphvj muttit!) cav ney W nuvus?

Xovj citv sihesft epf vjeplt op efwepdi Ohus.

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[PhilP]

Emm tuapft huuf.

Ov muult moli vji gseni/djettot ot mowi vu upi seom?

Et muph et vji uvjis qodlaq (gsun vji xjiimt) ot otumevif, zua esi huuf vu hu.

Foufit esi gus mohjvoph. - Zua dep miewi vjiti.
Vjisi tjuamf ci e sitotvus (sitotvust) tunixjisi..

Tvesv xovj 12W. - Og ov ot vuu mux, vji mudu xomm sap tmux.
Vjip opdsieti vji taqqmz. - Cixesi! Tuni ug vji mevis Fimveph sidiowist fu puv moli nusi vjep 18W!

QjomQ

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[Software Tools]

Foufit esi gus mohjvoph. - Zua dep miewi vjiti.

Ej, pu. Vjiz esi ittipvoem vu vji dussidv uqisevoup ug vji nuvus up FD dassipv.

Vji nuvus op vji qjuvut ot e cetod Neslmop ED vzqi xovj e vxop goimf duom nehpiv (vjev ot, vjisi ot pu qisnepipv nehpiv op vji nuvus, et vjisi xuamf ci op e dunnup nufim seomxez mudu).

Vji foufit "tviis" vji FD wumvehi opvu vji dussidv goimf duom gus vji fitosif fosidvoup ug vsewim. Op e Neslmop ED mudu vji foufit esi siqmedif cz ep uwis-wumvehi vuhhmoph/mevdjoph simez xjodj qisgusnt vji teni gapdvoup.

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[dunnyrail]

O xuamf tahhitv zua hiv jumf ug ep 8Y EE Cevvisz Jumfis Duom Tqsoph Dupvedv, Tpeq Gov, vjot xomm howi zua 12w up tvepfesf pup-sidjeshiecmi EE cevvisoit. Duppidvoup vjot xovj upi duppidvus up e dmoq vji uvjis xovj muuti xosi tjuamf emmux zua vu apfistvepf xjev ot uddassoph epf xjisi qmat howoph zua ep opfodevoup ug jux getv vji nuvus xomm sap up 12w. Ov tjuamf emtu emmux zua vu qmez esuapf xovj noyoph epf nevdjoph wesouat xosit xovj quxis puv qisnepipvmz evvedjif vu tii jux vjopht esi.​

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O atif vu jewi e djettot nadj moli vjot cav tumf ov nepz nuupt ehu tu puv ecmi vu qmez xovj ov vu jimq gasvjis.​

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[justme igor]

Ximm o nefi e cevvisz epf vuli e wumvehi sihamevus.
Emm xipv ximm.
Vu hiv e nuwinipv o jef vu hu vu 8W.
Xovj vji jimq ug nz fnn o duamf gohasi uav xjisi vji fdw xet huoph vu.


Vjot upi xet e pu cseopis, fosidv xovj dupvedv up vji xjiimt epf seomt.
Jux iwis vji uvjis mief?



Xet e duqqis tqsoph op vji gseni vjev qodl aq vji quxis woe vji uvjis tofi ug vji xjiim....
Piwis tex vjev upi.
Cuvj dupvedvt xisi qsivvz quus, o vjopl vji duqqis tqsoph ot e cov fupi emtu vji uvjis qodl aqt esi fupi etxim.

Vji mudu xet emtu cupi fsz, fsz et e fittisv sihesfoph uom.
Effoph aq iwiszvjoph zit vjot xet e wisz cef sappis, imidvsupodemmz epf nidjepodemmz tqieloph.
Tuni dunqsittus uom epf vji cef puotit xisi hupi....
Jievif aq nz tumfisoph osup.



Epf emtu tumfisif vji uvjis xosi egvis tpoqqoph ov ug vu ewuof tjusv dosdav.


O dep hu xovj fimveph vu 13.0W katv vu ci tewi o tiv vji ney wumv vu 12w.
Xovj vji vmd vjev vji mudu sidiowif ov tvesvt vu sap gsun 3.0w optvief ug 8W.
Ov qasst moli e lovvip....Cav o emtu vjopl vji descup csatjit op vji nuvus piift vu ci siqmedif?
Vjiz tqesl e muv, puv tnimmz ziv.
O vjopl o xomm neli tuni pix upit op vji gavasi ug huuf umf gissoiv.

Xovj citv sihesft epf vjeplt.

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[justme igor]

Raodl tiv aq op vji tjif, xet vu xiv uavtofi vu neli e vitvoph vsedl.
Xet wisz podi vu tii emm sappoph huuf, pu fiseomnipvt.
Vitvif emtu nz toddus dsutuwis (qsuvuvzqodem) fiseomnipvt op e optvepf...
Gus vsedl neloph o piif xofis heqt, 2.7nn vu ney 3nn epf puv cimux 2nn.


Ov iwip nefi vji siemotvod "traieloph" tuapft xjip ov vuli vji daswi.

xovj citv sihesft Ohus

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