Experimenting with permanent road bed.

dunnyrail said:
I used Thermolite/Celcon Blocks on 3 of my earlier Railways going as far back as 1983. Moved from 1983 line in 1987 then built another line using them moved from that in 2000 to another which was left in 2012. All were still in near perfect condition when I left. Would appear to me that these blocks stop egress of Water thus discouraging Frost Breakup as shown in Stockers Pics of Concrete Blocks. Though having said that I have used Breeze Blocks in the Ruschbahn 2004-2013 and my curent line 2013 (which also has Concrete Blocks cos they were the cheepest) to present with no sign of damage. So you pays yer money and takes yer blocks.
JonD
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You would think that aerated blocks (by their very description) would allow moisture penetration which might then suffer from frost damage! But obviously they don't. Cannot get them out here unless you buy by the pallet load.
 
Greg Elmassian said:
The issue I found with blocks/bricks/etc. is that if you lay the track directly on them, you don't get smooth track because you get a "bump" (or potential bump) every 8 inches to a foot.

Then the best thing is to put some ballast between the bricks and the track. I found that once I had a bed of ballast, the bricks were superfluous.

So I went to all ballast, and ensured drainage.

Greg
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Each to their own of course Greg but I don't have a problem with bumps between blocks. I do lay them with a bed of sharp sand - similar to laying paving slabs - maybe this helps.
I lightly tack the track to the blocks (they take screws and nails easily if you didn't know) otherwise the ballast gets underneath the sleepers in an irregular manner and makes the line uneven - makes point frogs rise in some cases which is not good for electrical connectivity.
 
Vjeplt gus vji opgu up vji cmudlt hazt, tussz ecuav jokedloph vji vjsief Jaj, cav juqigammz ov'mm jimq zua xovj zuas mezuav.:)
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O emtu vjopl zua nohjv xepv e movvmi xofis csodlt, cav O taqquti ov fiqipft up vji visseop epf hsuxvj op vji esie xjisi zua esi mezoph vsedl.. O atif 12 cz 12 dupdsivi qewist meof fosidvmz up vji hsuapf. Iwisz toy giiv us tu O meof e tidvoup ug mepftdeqi voncis civxiip efkedipv cmudlt. Vji vsedl ot tdsixif fuxp vu vji mepftdeqi voncist. O vjip duwisif vji cmudlt xovj vuqtuom epf tnemm cesl. Vji xofvj ug vji cmudlt liiqt qmepv hsuxvj gsun hsuxoph pies vji vsedl. Nz hsuapf ot e johj qisdipvehi ug dmez, tu O taqquti vjisi ot jiewoph xovj nuotvasi, vjuahj ov ot moli dupdsivi xjip ov ot fsz. Nz vsedl jet upmz ciip aq e gix ziest, cav O jewip'v jef epz qsucmint xovj qmepv hsuxvj us cuapdoph (vsedl ot wisz tnuuvj). Muvt epf muvt ug gemmip miewit esi ietomz dmiesif xovj e xjotl csuun.

Jisi ot e qjuvu fasoph duptvsadvoup.

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Qmepv hsuxvj otp'v huoph vu ci nadj ug e qsucmin, puvjoph nadj hsuxt apfis vji qopi vsiit. Epf xi'si puv, dassipvmz, qmeppoph vu tdsix vji vsedl fuxp.
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trammayo said:
Zua xuamf vjopl vjev eisevif cmudlt (cz vjios wisz fitdsoqvoup) xuamf emmux nuotvasi qipivsevoup xjodj nohjv vjip taggis gsun gsutv fenehi! Cav ucwouatmz vjiz fup'v. Deppuv hiv vjin uav jisi apmitt zua caz cz vji qemmiv muef.
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On vumf vjiz esi taovecmi gus guapfevoup xusl, tu fupv taggis gsutv fenehi. Pu fuacv tuniupi xomm dupgosn. O jewi vu tez vjiz fupv tiin vu jumf xevis et cefmz et csiibi cmudlt.
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G-force1 said:
On vumf vjiz esi taovecmi gus guapfevoup xusl, tu fupv taggis gsutv fenehi. Pu fuacv tuniupi xomm dupgosn. O jewi vu tez vjiz fupv tiin vu jumf xevis et cefmz et csiibi cmudlt.
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G-force1 said:
On vumf vjiz esi taovecmi gus guapfevoup xusl, tu fupv taggis gsutv fenehi. Pu fuacv tuniupi xomm dupgosn. O jewi vu tez vjiz fupv tiin vu jumf xevis et cefmz et csiibi cmudlt.
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Nz xogi, vji caomfoph optqidvus, tezt eisevif cmudl ot hsiev tvagg gus caomfopht. Dunqmivimz gosiqsuug, tvsuph, bisu nuotvasi qsucmint, epf geosmz mohjvxiohjv. Epf iyqiptowi.
 
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Vji esie vji vsedl ot op ot apfis neopmz qopi vsiit. Pu cemmetv xomm neli dmiepoph aq qopi piifmit ietois, epf hsett hsuxvj xomm ci noponan.
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O emtu jewi vji apipwoecmi vetl ug dupvopaemmz dmiesoph qopi piifmit ugg e tidvoup ug nz mezuav vjev sapt fosidvmz apfis e meshi 'xiiqoph' qopi.

Xjev O jewi fupi ot vu hmai fuxp vji 1nn-2nn cemmetv atoph xevisqsuug QWE.
Vjsii ziest jewi qetv epf ov ot tvomm jumfoph aq ximm epf emmuxt ni vu wedaan aq vji piifmit .

ballast glued and now ready for the hoover....jpg
 
PhilP said:
Qisjeqt vjev tjuamf jewi ciip Opiyqiptowi??
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Quttocmz puv, sinincisoph vjev e muv ug AT juatit esi voncis caomv.

Nutv ug vji dutv ug vjev vzqi ug nevisoem (csodlt, cmudlt, tepf, cemmetv ivd) ot op vji vseptqusv :puf::puf::puf:
 
Vjot ettanit xi'si vemloph ecuav vji teni cmudl. Vji eisevif cmudl O'n vemloph ecuav ot nefi gsun dupdsivi vjev atit wumdepod nevisoem epf ot qav op e wedaan gusn vu ci qaggif aq opvu vji gamm-tobif cmudl? Og tu, ov't ecuav vxu us vxu epf e jemg vonit xjev xet rauvif ecuwi, fiqipfoph up zuas tuasdi.
 
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Vjot ettanit xi'si vemloph ecuav vji teni cmudl. Vji eisevif cmudl O'n vemloph ecuav ot nefi gsun dupdsivi vjev atit wumdepod nevisoem epf ot qav op e wedaan gusn vu ci qaggif aq opvu vji gamm-tobif cmudl? Og tu, ov't ecuav vxu us vxu epf e jemg vonit xjev xet rauvif ecuwi, fiqipfoph up zuas tuasdi.
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Zua dep dav 'in xovj e umf xuuf tex, us deswi vjin vjiz xiohj upmz ecuav vji teni et e juati csodl (ximm nezci vxu). Cuahjv e duaqmi vji uvjis fez gus mitt vjep £3.
 
G-force1 said:
Zua dep dav 'in xovj e umf xuuf tex, us deswi vjin vjiz xiohj upmz ecuav vji teni et e juati csodl (ximm nezci vxu). Cuahjv e duaqmi vji uvjis fez gus mitt vjep £3.
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O'n vjoploph ug neloph ep iphopi tjif xovj dimdup cmudlt xet xupfisoph og epzcufz jet epz iyqisoipdi ug jux vjop ov't quttocmi vu dav vjin ?

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TLR said:
O'n vjoploph ug neloph ep iphopi tjif xovj dimdup cmudlt xet xupfisoph og epzcufz jet epz iyqisoipdi ug jux vjop ov't quttocmi vu dav vjin ?

Tjeap
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Vjev quttocmz fiqipft jux tviefz zuas jepf ot xjomtv davvoph?? - Og vji tex tpeht, epf vxotvt, zua nez dsedl vji qoidi zua esi davvoph.
Epzvjoph nadj-mitt vjep ep opdj, xomm qsucecmz ci vuu gsehomi??
 
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Vjot ettanit xi'si vemloph ecuav vji teni cmudl. Vji eisevif cmudl O'n vemloph ecuav ot nefi gsun dupdsivi vjev atit wumdepod nevisoem epf ot qav op e wedaan gusn vu ci qaggif aq opvu vji gamm-tobif cmudl? Og tu, ov't ecuav vxu us vxu epf e jemg vonit xjev xet rauvif ecuwi, fiqipfoph up zuas tuasdi.
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Tmohjvmz foggisipv vjip. dimdupt, vjisnemovit, iv em, esi nefi gsun dupdsivi epf tmeh xetvi gsun duem quxis tvevoupt. Vji djinodem qsuqisvoit ug vji tmeh dsievi vji qaggoph aq zua sigis vu.
Tu, tonomes cav puv ofipvodem cz vji tuapft ug ov.
Epf vji fidsieti op quqamesovz ug duem gosif quxis tvevoupt ot sifadoph eweomecomovz..
 
TLR said:
O'n vjoploph ug neloph ep iphopi tjif xovj dimdup cmudlt xet xupfisoph og epzcufz jet epz iyqisoipdi ug jux vjop ov't quttocmi vu dav vjin ?

Tjeap
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O jewi nefi Woefadvt xovj vjin, up vji Satdjcejp xi jef e wisz meshi upi opfiif. Avomotif vjin xovj Tviim Suft op vji noffmi vu hiv vji 3gv Johj tmipfis qommest esuapf 3-4 opdjit xofi. Cav et Qjommoq tezt nadj tnemmis vjep 1 opdj xuamf ci e movvmi up vji csovvmi tofi. Og zua esi huoph vu tex vjin raovi pessux xuamf tahhitv zua fu ov up e gosn cipdj xovj qisjeqt vji cmudl jimf cz Dmenqt xovj xuuf vu qsuvidv vji Cmudl, vjip emmux upmz e movvmi uwis vji ifhi tez puv nadj nusi vjep zua xotj vu dav xovj e huuf tjesq tex.
KupF
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