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these posted backwards -
the building is of a concrete like plaster-raised on redwood to lessen ground dampness -this is about 20 lbs!glued the cast sides with bondo-car body repair putty-wonderous, (and smelly brain damaging) stuff!
the color is what i have seen around mining areas-decomposed granite i believe -(but also dark grey for bassalt and granite)-fancy cut stone trim on windows and on the top of the structure sometimes are contrasting-sometimes dramatic -i made mine less so simply to make it look more small, poor town instead of properous and well established
i too like green for windows and love arched tops -they seem to have been popular in teh 1880-1910's so i went for it, and
like you, i too colored each stone with a separate color-1 of 5 i used-basically earth tones mixed with poly-to saturate and protect the material, then wahsed with ink, and then coated again with poly inside and out -leaving a small strip naked on the inside walls for the stuff to breath and let out moisture-the overcoat really dulled the distinctive colors of each stone and it looks rather mundane -i think the colors simply bled into each other-but at least its not like a chess board-did the same on the ice house and also had all my efforts essentially obliterated
i think this is pretty typical of the western US stone buildings ive seen in terms of the overall look and fitting
these posted backwards -
the building is of a concrete like plaster-raised on redwood to lessen ground dampness -this is about 20 lbs!glued the cast sides with bondo-car body repair putty-wonderous, (and smelly brain damaging) stuff!
the color is what i have seen around mining areas-decomposed granite i believe -(but also dark grey for bassalt and granite)-fancy cut stone trim on windows and on the top of the structure sometimes are contrasting-sometimes dramatic -i made mine less so simply to make it look more small, poor town instead of properous and well established
i too like green for windows and love arched tops -they seem to have been popular in teh 1880-1910's so i went for it, and
like you, i too colored each stone with a separate color-1 of 5 i used-basically earth tones mixed with poly-to saturate and protect the material, then wahsed with ink, and then coated again with poly inside and out -leaving a small strip naked on the inside walls for the stuff to breath and let out moisture-the overcoat really dulled the distinctive colors of each stone and it looks rather mundane -i think the colors simply bled into each other-but at least its not like a chess board-did the same on the ice house and also had all my efforts essentially obliterated
i think this is pretty typical of the western US stone buildings ive seen in terms of the overall look and fitting
trammayo
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Nice models Steve - thanks for the descriptions too.
I can see the main difference betweem rough hewn stone (British Isles) and the masonry of your part of the world. Over here, unless desired otherwise, the face is usually dressed fairly flat or a flat face selected whereas yours places little emphasis on the face and more on the joints.
It looks good though (quite realistic) and I like your colouring. Thank you for posting - its given me taster.
Mick
Nice models Steve - thanks for the descriptions too.
I can see the main difference betweem rough hewn stone (British Isles) and the masonry of your part of the world. Over here, unless desired otherwise, the face is usually dressed fairly flat or a flat face selected whereas yours places little emphasis on the face and more on the joints.
It looks good though (quite realistic) and I like your colouring. Thank you for posting - its given me taster.
Mick
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you articulate the difference well
happy to share
you articulate the difference well
happy to share
trammayo
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Hi Steve - I lost my connection yesterday teatime - I was going to say that my reason for using the foam board was to reduce weight! When I built the trailer, it weighed 480kg (under half-a-ton) by the time I'd fitted everything in I found I had increased the payload by another 6 hundredweight!
I've remade my lift-off end boards (half the previous weight now) and need to remake all my "lift-off" buildings in foam board to reduce weight (and to be able to add more built structures without massive weight penalties
).
Mick
Hi Steve - I lost my connection yesterday teatime - I was going to say that my reason for using the foam board was to reduce weight! When I built the trailer, it weighed 480kg (under half-a-ton) by the time I'd fitted everything in I found I had increased the payload by another 6 hundredweight!
I've remade my lift-off end boards (half the previous weight now) and need to remake all my "lift-off" buildings in foam board to reduce weight (and to be able to add more built structures without massive weight penalties
).Mick
trammayo
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The Freight Depot has taken a back seat for a few days as I get on with other conponents of the trailer layout. Back in 2006, for the market stall layout, I built three sets of Irish cottages with an outbuilding for each. The new ectended base boards now allow for the three cottages to make a more cohesive scene and for some to be actually permanently mounted on the removable board.
My existing structures are quite heavy - being made from such things as 3/4" ply and 2 x 1 - too heavy to remain attached on a vertical board so I am slowly rebuilding them.
Outbuildings
All are thatched roof - different styles but the same footprint. Out here, in the extremely rural west, a number of older farm buildings survive usually derelict.
Scattered around are a number of small granary buildings made of stone, with outside steps to climb to tip the sacks of grain into the inside.
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The Freight Depot has taken a back seat for a few days as I get on with other conponents of the trailer layout. Back in 2006, for the market stall layout, I built three sets of Irish cottages with an outbuilding for each. The new ectended base boards now allow for the three cottages to make a more cohesive scene and for some to be actually permanently mounted on the removable board.
My existing structures are quite heavy - being made from such things as 3/4" ply and 2 x 1 - too heavy to remain attached on a vertical board so I am slowly rebuilding them.
Outbuildings
All are thatched roof - different styles but the same footprint. Out here, in the extremely rural west, a number of older farm buildings survive usually derelict.
Scattered around are a number of small granary buildings made of stone, with outside steps to climb to tip the sacks of grain into the inside.
...........
trammayo
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.... the granaries have quite a small footprint and are probably only 15 feet to the apex so I decided that instead of building direct lightweight replacements for the two outbuildings, I'd replace the white one with a granary and the "stonework" one with a hen run. Whilst the latter is still on the drawing board, the granary is virtually finished.
It took about six hours over-all - more like waiting for glues to set and paint to dry than anything else. As I had already marked out on the baseboard for the existing buildings (and created paths and roads) then the new structure would not be any larger than the old.
I used foam board again, Cut out four pieces, then the doors and window, then scribed in pencil the stonework as I did the freight depot. The roof is thin corrugated card with Minaco tile/slate sheet stuck on, as per recommendation, with double sided carpet tape.
The outside steps were built up with foam and the step faces and treads covered in masking tape to hide the joints. The four sides were mitred to try and get a sharp corner and all glued together with PVA. The roof was stuck on to the walls using double-sided tape and the ridge cut from strips of gaffer tape.
AS it took so long to paint the stonework on the depot, I thought I'd try a one coat and wash treatment. Dulux grey u/coat, dried and then washed with a thin coat of black u/coat and dabbed off.
Moss was added by creating splodges of green dashed with dry sand (left over from paving the drive). Doors were roughly painted and then, when dry, shoved back into the hole from whence they came, Ridge tiles painted with a dab of reddish brown.
Now I need to get the depot finished off. I was going to further detail the inside but, unless I illuminate the inside, nobody will ever know!
.... the granaries have quite a small footprint and are probably only 15 feet to the apex so I decided that instead of building direct lightweight replacements for the two outbuildings, I'd replace the white one with a granary and the "stonework" one with a hen run. Whilst the latter is still on the drawing board, the granary is virtually finished.
It took about six hours over-all - more like waiting for glues to set and paint to dry than anything else. As I had already marked out on the baseboard for the existing buildings (and created paths and roads) then the new structure would not be any larger than the old.
I used foam board again, Cut out four pieces, then the doors and window, then scribed in pencil the stonework as I did the freight depot. The roof is thin corrugated card with Minaco tile/slate sheet stuck on, as per recommendation, with double sided carpet tape.
The outside steps were built up with foam and the step faces and treads covered in masking tape to hide the joints. The four sides were mitred to try and get a sharp corner and all glued together with PVA. The roof was stuck on to the walls using double-sided tape and the ridge cut from strips of gaffer tape.
AS it took so long to paint the stonework on the depot, I thought I'd try a one coat and wash treatment. Dulux grey u/coat, dried and then washed with a thin coat of black u/coat and dabbed off.
Moss was added by creating splodges of green dashed with dry sand (left over from paving the drive). Doors were roughly painted and then, when dry, shoved back into the hole from whence they came, Ridge tiles painted with a dab of reddish brown.
Now I need to get the depot finished off. I was going to further detail the inside but, unless I illuminate the inside, nobody will ever know!
trammayo
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I'm still stalling on the completion of the depot but, yesterday, with the sun shining and the baseboard down for surface dressing, I decided I'd make a start on the platform. It will be made in two sections (for transport/storage considerations) and the main part is now complete.
I used foamboard as the basis - making a box-like piece on which to glue the woodwork. In the original model - from which mine is loosely copied - the platform supporting framework is open, leaving a clear view underneath. I wanted to hide the connections - electrical and mechanical - so it required everything to be in place as if the set-up was operational.
Once measurements had been taken it was a quick and easy job to make the base using superglue. Having checked that it located correctly, I sprayed the "exposed" sides matt black. Then the framework was glued directly to the box again using superglue. When it came to the platform decking, I used lollipop sticks (cut with the kitchen scissors!) glued with (fairly) quick drying PVA wood glue.
Trying it for size
The bits that needed hiding
Viewed from the end - looks like is just in a shadow
The foamboard construction
That is my efforts so far. On the original the ramp runs down in line with the platform but I think I might turn it 90 degrees. Its the "old" selective compression at work again but do everything to scale would need a trailer the size of a tennis court!
I'm still stalling on the completion of the depot but, yesterday, with the sun shining and the baseboard down for surface dressing, I decided I'd make a start on the platform. It will be made in two sections (for transport/storage considerations) and the main part is now complete.
I used foamboard as the basis - making a box-like piece on which to glue the woodwork. In the original model - from which mine is loosely copied - the platform supporting framework is open, leaving a clear view underneath. I wanted to hide the connections - electrical and mechanical - so it required everything to be in place as if the set-up was operational.
Once measurements had been taken it was a quick and easy job to make the base using superglue. Having checked that it located correctly, I sprayed the "exposed" sides matt black. Then the framework was glued directly to the box again using superglue. When it came to the platform decking, I used lollipop sticks (cut with the kitchen scissors!) glued with (fairly) quick drying PVA wood glue.
Trying it for size
The bits that needed hiding
Viewed from the end - looks like is just in a shadow
The foamboard construction
That is my efforts so far. On the original the ramp runs down in line with the platform but I think I might turn it 90 degrees. Its the "old" selective compression at work again but do everything to scale would need a trailer the size of a tennis court!
beavercreek
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Re:My new Freight Depot
Really enjoying your thread Mick.
If you want to make your buildings for outside using the same principles, use Elmer's Foamboard (or other manufacturer of similar material) as it is waterproof! The only thing is to make sure that you have a system of 'pinning down' the buildings when outside as they tend to act as in a hurricane when a stiffish breeze blows!
Really enjoying your thread Mick.
If you want to make your buildings for outside using the same principles, use Elmer's Foamboard (or other manufacturer of similar material) as it is waterproof! The only thing is to make sure that you have a system of 'pinning down' the buildings when outside as they tend to act as in a hurricane when a stiffish breeze blows!
trammayo
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Thanks John.
Thanks Mike - the problem over here is actually getting hold of the stuff. Fancied the blue styrofoam as featured by Mel and in Garden Rail - just don't seem to be able to get it here. Tried UK (ebay shop) for some - no probs - just that a £27 purchase becomes a few pence short of fifty quid!
The foam board (card covered) came from Rapid. Bought two packs of 10 A3, 4 diddy leccy motors and Kg of assorted wool (not for me). Less than forty for the materials - final bill £79 plus. Makes me scream.
Where all in the EU - why not a have a better deal on postage.
Rant over!
Thanks John.
Thanks Mike - the problem over here is actually getting hold of the stuff. Fancied the blue styrofoam as featured by Mel and in Garden Rail - just don't seem to be able to get it here. Tried UK (ebay shop) for some - no probs - just that a £27 purchase becomes a few pence short of fifty quid!
The foam board (card covered) came from Rapid. Bought two packs of 10 A3, 4 diddy leccy motors and Kg of assorted wool (not for me). Less than forty for the materials - final bill £79 plus. Makes me scream.
Where all in the EU - why not a have a better deal on postage.
Rant over!
trammayo
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Re:My new Freight Depot
I've just altered the title slightly so it will cover all the structures I intend to build (or replace) on my trailer layout.
The Freight Depot has been hanging around for some time now as I deliberated about furnishing the interior. Yesterday, I started makingsome crates to inside - foam board covered in printed paper. Apart from "drawing" the crates, making up and glueing took quite a while. Extrapolation of the time taken made me think twice so I decided the roof was going on and staying!
I used mounting board, glued in position with PVA, and covered with 50mm masking tape to represent the tar felt. The gable walls were finished off and the raw edges covered in masking tape to try and hide the foam and to give a base to paint on. Once I'd painted in the stonework, I started on the roof using Dulux black undercoat.
The ramp part of the platform was constructed Sunday and this time I used double-sided carpet tape to fasten the lollipop sticks down. Yesterday I fave them a colour wash (very thin) of brown which, when dry, looked like cedar.
Indeed it looked a little too red so I gave it a wash of oil based grey and sponged it off immediately - giving the impression og weathered timber on the platform deck and the colour of the framework underneath retained its "new" appearance.
This morning I printed off two sign, found some thin wood and glued them on. Stays are 0.5mm bright steel wire and located in pre-drilled holes and secured by superglue. The pristine stonework was toned down with a black wash and dabbed off before it dried. The only problem with water-based paint is that the masking tape wrinkled - it might dry tighter (said he hoping).
Although the structure is finished I still need to "dress" the platform with goods.
Pictures
The platform is in two pieces for ease of transportation. Whatever I "dress" the platform with will be in one lump (or two?) - for ease of setting up and eliminating the peripatetic nature of small objects being lifted by inquisitive fingers!
I've just altered the title slightly so it will cover all the structures I intend to build (or replace) on my trailer layout.
The Freight Depot has been hanging around for some time now as I deliberated about furnishing the interior. Yesterday, I started makingsome crates to inside - foam board covered in printed paper. Apart from "drawing" the crates, making up and glueing took quite a while. Extrapolation of the time taken made me think twice so I decided the roof was going on and staying!
I used mounting board, glued in position with PVA, and covered with 50mm masking tape to represent the tar felt. The gable walls were finished off and the raw edges covered in masking tape to try and hide the foam and to give a base to paint on. Once I'd painted in the stonework, I started on the roof using Dulux black undercoat.
The ramp part of the platform was constructed Sunday and this time I used double-sided carpet tape to fasten the lollipop sticks down. Yesterday I fave them a colour wash (very thin) of brown which, when dry, looked like cedar.
Indeed it looked a little too red so I gave it a wash of oil based grey and sponged it off immediately - giving the impression og weathered timber on the platform deck and the colour of the framework underneath retained its "new" appearance.
This morning I printed off two sign, found some thin wood and glued them on. Stays are 0.5mm bright steel wire and located in pre-drilled holes and secured by superglue. The pristine stonework was toned down with a black wash and dabbed off before it dried. The only problem with water-based paint is that the masking tape wrinkled - it might dry tighter (said he hoping).
Although the structure is finished I still need to "dress" the platform with goods.
Pictures
The platform is in two pieces for ease of transportation. Whatever I "dress" the platform with will be in one lump (or two?) - for ease of setting up and eliminating the peripatetic nature of small objects being lifted by inquisitive fingers!
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This is a very interesting thread. There is, as Mick commented in his initial post, a lot of inspiration here. There are very many structures that could be made: the main issue is which ones. The choice, I guess, depends entirely on what rolling stock you have - or intend to get. I do not have covered hoppers (suitable for grain) so a silo might be out of the frame (my modelling period is 1950-1970) but a grain elevator ( I have found a place suitable and adjacent to my track) could fit in very well as boxcars ( I have eight) were used to carry grain in the past.
Thoughts about the welfare of engineers, fireman, conductors and MOW guys made me think they should have a beanery/diner someplace. Now where could that be?
This is a very interesting thread. There is, as Mick commented in his initial post, a lot of inspiration here. There are very many structures that could be made: the main issue is which ones. The choice, I guess, depends entirely on what rolling stock you have - or intend to get. I do not have covered hoppers (suitable for grain) so a silo might be out of the frame (my modelling period is 1950-1970) but a grain elevator ( I have found a place suitable and adjacent to my track) could fit in very well as boxcars ( I have eight) were used to carry grain in the past.
Thoughts about the welfare of engineers, fireman, conductors and MOW guys made me think they should have a beanery/diner someplace. Now where could that be?
stevedenver
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Re:My new Freight Depot
man that depot looks great!
as does your layout
well done -love the plank lengths too on the flooring
man that depot looks great!
as does your layout
well done -love the plank lengths too on the flooring
trammayo
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Re:My new Freight Depot
Thanks Steve & Alan. I tried the Depot out yesterday - absolutely cracker of an adternoon - opened the trailer up and did some testing for clearances - no probs. Still on with the "built environment" rebuilding my Irish cottages in lighter materials.
Tearing my hair out at the moment (not enough to sort out the thatching problems though). Will post as soon as I sort out the bald patches!
Thanks Steve & Alan. I tried the Depot out yesterday - absolutely cracker of an adternoon - opened the trailer up and did some testing for clearances - no probs. Still on with the "built environment" rebuilding my Irish cottages in lighter materials.
Tearing my hair out at the moment (not enough to sort out the thatching problems though
). Will post as soon as I sort out the bald patches!