trammayo
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Harsh paragraph!
Just started small layout
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Harsh paragraph!
Portsladepete
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I have no idea why you think what you do, however it’s probably best to avoid my posts as they are definitely sub standard
Portsladepete
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Apparently so Phil, I will post a pic when track is down, although that might cause apoplexy
Jasper
Hey, I'm only being creative here!
Please do! We're looking forward to it.
Until today, I didn't know the word "apoplexy". Your post made me look it up. So you see, being a railway modeller means learning something every day.
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JimmyB
Now retired - trains and fishing
John building a garden railway at "waist" height has its virtues, however Mrs B allowed my railway as long as is blended in to "our" garden, and not sat on top and overpowered the garden, so most os mine is at ground height, with some slightly elevated areas. I reckon that when I cannot bend to run my trains, and sit on my bench to enjoy them, then I will be to decrepit to build them, so I remain content at ground level
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Ken, when I made my decision about benchwork height, I set a loco on a variety of surfaces around the house, adding books under it when necessary, until I found the height that worked best for me. It turned out that the kitchen counter plus a few inches was best. I'm 6'2" tall. Of course in the garden, the real height varies around this measurement depending on the ground contour.
Like Brunel, I am quite strict about having my mainline level. I allow spurs and sidings to sag towards whichever direction might make parking on them best. I find having them dead level is best, but sometimes a sag towards the middle adds a little extra insurance. Most of my operations take the form of shunting or switching a peddler freight on the line or a hog in the yard.
I invite friends over for the purpose of operating the railroad with me. We don't drink.
For variety, when I want principally to just let her run from one end to the other, or even through a secret and somewhat embarrassing track that permits roundy-roundies (Used mostly for testing), I can run an express through freight, a passenger of one class or another, a commuter, or, rarely, a mail or perishable commodity special or a maintenance train.
Where I can access both sides I limit the width of my benchwork to four feet; where I can only get to one, three feet, though I prefer 32". In many places the benchwork is two feet or less, allowing for only two or three lines. And it all depends on one's personal style. I stand and walk about, following the action of the train.
As for scenery, that is a separate subject. Again I assure you that very good effects are possible on elevated benchwork. Perhaps others have something to contribute here, but for now one thread is enough for me to handle. I shall bear your request in mind, and perhaps elaborate on plants, rockwork and structures at a later date.
Like Brunel, I am quite strict about having my mainline level. I allow spurs and sidings to sag towards whichever direction might make parking on them best. I find having them dead level is best, but sometimes a sag towards the middle adds a little extra insurance. Most of my operations take the form of shunting or switching a peddler freight on the line or a hog in the yard.
I invite friends over for the purpose of operating the railroad with me. We don't drink.
For variety, when I want principally to just let her run from one end to the other, or even through a secret and somewhat embarrassing track that permits roundy-roundies (Used mostly for testing), I can run an express through freight, a passenger of one class or another, a commuter, or, rarely, a mail or perishable commodity special or a maintenance train.
Where I can access both sides I limit the width of my benchwork to four feet; where I can only get to one, three feet, though I prefer 32". In many places the benchwork is two feet or less, allowing for only two or three lines. And it all depends on one's personal style. I stand and walk about, following the action of the train.
As for scenery, that is a separate subject. Again I assure you that very good effects are possible on elevated benchwork. Perhaps others have something to contribute here, but for now one thread is enough for me to handle. I shall bear your request in mind, and perhaps elaborate on plants, rockwork and structures at a later date.
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Jimmy B:
No one treads on my boundaries. It is my art and my life, and no one would dare interfere between me and my hobby in any way. To assure that rigorously we share the garden. She has her bit, I have mine, and there are common areas that we maintain and enjoy together. It's good to maintain one's personal boundaries, but we each have the flexibility to tolerate a little overlap, requested and agreed to, without coming to blows. We know better than to impose upon each other's pleasures. We get along very well and I do what I want.
Full stop. (Period).
No one treads on my boundaries. It is my art and my life, and no one would dare interfere between me and my hobby in any way. To assure that rigorously we share the garden. She has her bit, I have mine, and there are common areas that we maintain and enjoy together. It's good to maintain one's personal boundaries, but we each have the flexibility to tolerate a little overlap, requested and agreed to, without coming to blows. We know better than to impose upon each other's pleasures. We get along very well and I do what I want.
Full stop. (Period).
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Celcon is only one manufacturer - the technical term is a lightweight block; Google that and it should open up possibilities in one's local area
Portsladepete
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Please do! We're looking forward to it.
Until today, I didn't know the word "apoplexy". Your post made me look it up. So you see, being a railway modeller means learning something every day.
Please do! We're looking forward to it.
Until today, I didn't know the word "apoplexy". Your post made me look it up. So you see, being a railway modeller means learning something every day.
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Portsladepete
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Well just waiting for one more straight and my Stainz can go round and round all day! Having worked on the life size railway for many years , I have no embarrassment at all in the lack of fidelity to the real thing. I can understand modellers wanting to achieve an accurate representation of the railway, but to imagine running a model like the real railway is delusional. Sorry, don’t like snobs!
Hm have to disagree with you quite seriously there.
Having been on the Railway myself for 29 years mostly in Operations it is possible to get a great deal of prototype fidelity out of running Timetable and Train Movements that are based on research of the real thing. My line runs as close as I possibly can to a Narrow Gauge Railway in East Germany, the Timetable is based strongly upon that line and as many of the prototype Wagon and Train Consist details as I have been able to research are used in the Timetable. Yes there are a few variations for Operator Interest, but all done in a Prototypical manner. This relies on 3 guys acting as Driver, Guard, Shunter, Signalman and Station Staff all the time they are at each Station. It would be nice to have enough bodies to fill all of those posts and they could all have satisfying though at times quiet jobs, but space limitations precludes that. Though we can manage another couple of bods if we can get them. Yes the distance between each Station does not represent the real run but as we run to a Schedule relying on correct passing points to regulate the time a days running takes that works quite well.
You do not state where you are from Pete (possibly Pompey way?), but if you are able to get St.Neots for a a day I challenge you to come and have a go at a Timetable session to see what another world in miniature can be like. By the end of the day you will know you have done a days work (in around 4-5 hours) your brain will likely be scrambled but like all that visit here I guarantee you will have had a fun day and want to come again.
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PhilP
G Scale, 7/8th's, Electronics
Now, now.. We are a broad-church (other denomination places of worship, included) here! 
there are those who try to make a 'little-world', those who want to 'run-a-railway' (possibly to time-table!), and those who 'just-play-trains'.
All of these, can raise a smile (however wry) in all of us. - Long may it continue, I say!
(It would be pretty boring if we were all the same!)
<typing this, as Jon was typing his response..>
there are those who try to make a 'little-world', those who want to 'run-a-railway' (possibly to time-table!), and those who 'just-play-trains'.
All of these, can raise a smile (however wry) in all of us. - Long may it continue, I say!
(It would be pretty boring if we were all the same!)
<typing this, as Jon was typing his response..>
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
The reality is that we all replicate a small aspect of the 1:1 railway world, and there are different aspects to concentrate on, irrespective of whether one operates to a timetable or whether one just lets the trains run, and run ..
For several weeks now I have debated myself about starting a post in this track laying section. When I get around to it, the err of many for my attempt and philosophy on the subject is expected. I’ve now erased a long winded reply here, but years ago a man advised me, don’t pay attention to kangaroos. What do kangaroos have to do with anything and where did he come up with a saying about them in the us?
PhilP
G Scale, 7/8th's, Electronics
Kangaroo's?
All of a sudden, they jump-up and post a comment, cause chaos, and hop-off into the 'outback' again!
"tut-tut... tut-tut-tut.. tut-tut.................tut"
"What's that Skippy? Some guy posted you mustn't run 'roundy-roundy', but he has fallen down the well, and needs help?"
<cue music>
Portsladepete
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My brain was constantly scrambled at work, my point was aimed squarely at someone who thinks his model runs like the real railway, and my fun should be replaced by something far more serious. Yes you can run to a scaled time timetable, you can even replicate the various events if you want to be at work, I don’t. I have no problem with anyone running a model railway how they want to, I have a problem with people telling me how to.
As you are aware, the real railway has to deal with moving real people, cope with track circuit failures, bridge strikes, suicides, etc etc. I am of an age where social media is rarely frequented, I have no knowledge of the apparently strict rules on titles, or other seemingly accepted etiquette, and to be honestI don’t want to.. I do however, recognise rudeness and arrogance, guess this site is not for me if I can’t play trains. By the way, I am in Cornwall, so your very nice invite is a bit far for me.
