LGB Maerklin V100 Bash

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Around 6 or 7 weeks ago I got one of these from Glendale. I have not been able to run it till now as my Massoth Central Station has had a trip to Germany to be done. Don`t ask. The V100 would not run on my Temp LGB P set up, well it would run but no sound. Neither did it have when I tried it with my reinstated Massoth. Qpick call to that nice man at Glendale, have you got it set to 28 Speed Steps? Yes and P? doooooh. Thanks Brian. Talk about forgetting the basics.

Anyway now that I know it works OK it is time to bash it. Well I have already pushed the cab Windows out on both sides so the lid needs to come off anyway. First Pic looking all inocent at my Harzegerode Station unknown to the horrors that await it.

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Next with my Piko Kamel, which to be honest after all the work that went into it I have given up on it as it runs like a pig. But this gives a clue of what will befall the V100. Extended foorstep at the front, upwards facing Buffers, centre Buffer for NG and possibly a few other horrors.

It is interesting to see that the Height is about the same on the two. Though Kamel is certainly Longer as one of the side views shows.

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Then just for fun in my Workroom on the 00 Layout with a class 20 to show the real difference in size between 00 and G.

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JonD
 
The window glass on these locos is attached with a very minimal amount of adhesive, the slightest pressure and in they go!

I had one for a while, but change of plans made it redundant
 
Then just for fun in my Workroom on the 00 Layout with a class 20 to show the real difference in size between 00 and G.


Now, could you arrange it that the 'six foot' on the OO was just right to run G down the middle of said OO layout..?? ??? :o :o
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stevelewis said:
Will you be upgrading the lights?

Hm not sure, I think that they are OK as they are. But might turn the Brightness down a bit if I can and maybee a Roof Light with a Flashing LED as I did on the Kamel if I can work out how to do one with the existing Board.

Window Glass will be Glued in with top notch Superglue in the hope tgat they stay in place, plenty of Meat on thr Border to do thus I reckon.

Chris, you screwed up the Windows didn't you?

Phil, flanges would bump a bit on the Sleepers with Code 75 00 Rail.
JonD
 
Itareus said:
>:( >:( >:( :P :P ;D ;D ;D

I'm not opening the B*** thing up AGAIN, it will just run with the missing window facing the walls / fences until I have a calm moment in a few years time. :).

I'll take that as a yes then!
JonD
 
dunnyrail said:
Hm not sure, I think that they are OK as they are. But might turn the Brightness down a bit if I can and maybee a Roof Light with a Flashing LED as I did on the Kamel if I can work out how to do one with the existing Board.
Window Glass will be Glued in with top notch Superglue in the hope tgat they stay in place, plenty of Meat on thr Border to do thus I reckon.
Chris, you screwed up the Windows didn't you?
Phil, flanges would bump a bit on the Sleepers with Code 75 00 Rail.
JonD
Have you detailed what you did to the Kamel anywhere ? Looking at fitting flashing lights to the roofs of shunters to show that some massoth couplers are in the "down" position but sourcing suitable roof lights is proving a problem. Have got some beacons from the model racing car fraternity but they might be a bit big. What did you use ?
Chris
 
The biggest problem with lamp / LED holders for roof lights is the amount that 'hangs down' into the cab.. - You can paint them to match the cab roof interior which helps..
There is an 'alternate flashing' setting on Massoth decoders you can use, and fire the outputs at the same time as the couplers.
 
ExeterGeek said:
Have you detailed what you did to the Kamel anywhere ? Looking at fitting flashing lights to the roofs of shunters to show that some massoth couplers are in the "down" position but sourcing suitable roof lights is proving a problem. Have got some beacons from the model racing car fraternity but they might be a bit big. What did you use ?
Chris

Yes I did one of my 'How I did it' Threads, might have been GMad n lost. Comprehensive search might find it in this forum. These days I save a link to my major posts, did not then. I also tend to write my Major ones on a WP and copy copy the thread in to here just in case I ever get round to doing a Model Mag Article.

Flashing lamp was a Flashing LED via Massoth Decoder and an F Button Pretty easy.

But could be done also via a Complex CV and big bulb I think.

Hanging down wires and route to decoder was covered by running wires through a Black Straw sourced from Weatherspoons and glued just by one of the Cab Edges. Pretty Well invisible.
JonD
 
I decided yesterday to have a little play with the V100, but as it was already on the Workbench I Needed to do a Prep Job that I do to all my Locomotives. But prior to this I tried out all the Sliding Pickups and found that 2 were a bit sticky. One was OK but the other just useless as it Stuck Down when pressed. So off with the keeper plate and a look at the problem. It soon became apparent as can be seen on the first pic (I hope). Moulding flash. We never had such problems in Nuremburg LGB Days as everything was properly tested.

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A little bit of careful dress with a Swiss File and WetnDry, all was well.

Next up my usual Mod to Locomotive Couplings. I have a standard obtained from my good Friend Doug who may not post much on here but is an avid reader. ALL Rolling Stock has two Coupling Hooks. Locomotives no hooks, but the coupling is blocked down by 20 or 30 thou with a piece of cut Plasticard. It needs to be drilled for the Coupling Screw and cut to fit inside the Coupling Housing. Pic shows better what is needed.

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The effect of this is to just push the Coupling of the vehicle that is attached to the Locomotive down a tadge. This does ensure hardly any decoupling. The final pic shows the effect. Note the small Gap between the Hook and Coupling to the Right Coupling on the Picture.

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This Mod suggestion from Doug is after many many Miles of his running experience. I have been using this standard for some years now too as did the Ruschbahn, all with superb satisfactory running success.

I commend this suggestion to the House!

JonD
 
Forgot to post the pic of a Window showing the pathetic amount of Adhesive (indicated by the Red Blobs on the surounds) used which probably explains why they get pushed out.

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JonD
 
Many thanks JonD for mentioning my Mod to loco couplings. The other reasons why I did the Mod to my LGB locos coupling, was to avoid locos coupling together in loco berthing sidings. Also I found the first wagon/coach had greater play thro tight radius curves & points with a single coupling hook. I passed this on to Andy Rush & JonD at one of the first Ruschbahn operating sessions some years ago . Doug
 
dunnyrail said:
Forgot to post the pic of a Window showing the pathetic amount of Adhesive (indicated by the Red Blobs on the surounds) used which probably explains why they get pushed out.

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JonD

When I owned one of these locos briefly, almost the first occurance was the windows falling inwards, I failed to understand the meagre amount of adhesive used to secure them,........ they were re attached with epoxy adhesive, it seems that Marklin are now finding cost saving methods, my recent Mallet which was Marklin production came with some parts in bags for user fitting, and going back to the V100, it looks like seperately fitted detail parts and handrails may be a thing of the past! I apreciate the V100 was quite inexpensive, though
 
stevelewis said:
, it seems that Marklin are now finding cost saving methods, my recent Mallet which was Marklin production came with some parts in bags for user fitting,
I have also recently bought one of these, from memory the "flagpoles" and lamp bezels were bagged separately. I don't think that these are prototypical so I assumed that they were separate to make fixing optional.
 
Neil Robinson said:
I have also recently bought one of these, from memory the "flagpoles" and lamp bezels were bagged separately. I don't think that these are prototypical so I assumed that they were separate to make fixing optional.
What you call Flagpoles I think are the Handrails for Shunter. Everything was fitted on mine. Just Google the following and it will show you some prototypes pics.

v100 german locomotive

JonD
 
I have now had a good old go at this beastie and she is pretty well wrapped up on the work. My want was to make it look akin to a Kamel. I have a Piko Kamel, my Playmobile has been converted to a Mini Kamel. So this one will be the Middle Kamel.

Baby Kamel Conversion Link.
http://www.gscalecentral.net/battery-power/another-playmobil-diesel-transformation-this-time-a-baby-kamel/msg302136/#msg302136

I have not been able to find my Piko Kamel thread dispit much searching. Can anyone help? For completeness I would like to post that link here.

First when doing these jobs, like others before me it is a good plan to have a schedule of Jobs to do. So here is mine.
1 White Line around the bottom of the Body.
2 Extend Running Plate
3 Upturned Buffers as on my Kamel
4 Centre Buffer and Coupling for SG Cars
5 New Lettering with DR and New Numbers, with last 2 Digits representing the Chip ID.
6 Hole and Pipe for Exhaust
7 Weathering

Forst job to attack was the dismantling to be able to do the extended Running Plate and also sort out the Loose Windows. As is usual I use an old Ice Creme Tub for the Bits. Pic 1 shows this.

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The Handrails were an easy Pop Out Job, 8 Black Headed Screws Hold the Body on. DO NOT UNDO THE 4 SILVER SCREWS ON THE FUEL TANK. These hold a Metal Weight in place and do not need to be removed. They are the devils own job to get back! 2 more Black Headed Screws allow the Cab to be removed. As in all my Jobs I mark up end One to make refit easy. This can be seen in the Metal Weight in Pic 1. On this Loco the Long Hood is end One. Getting the Cab back in place does not really need a number on it as there is a Pip on one end to help. But I marked it anyway. I also removed the Coupler Housing and to ensure no loss of the Spring put a little PowerBond 802 on the very Centre of the Coupling to hild it in place. This does not effect the Operation at all. Finally the Buffers were removed and stored in a Bag in the Loco Box for use if ever it goes back to its original look.

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To aid work I mount the Chassis upside down on the Workbench, but as the Chip is here it is not good to just plonk it down. So I use a couple of bits of 2 x 1 for it to sit on. Convinently it just sits nicely with the Weights on the Blocks. The next 2 pics show this. Plus the first Pic shows where I have drilled 2 Small Holes for 10ba Tapping.

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The next Pic shows the crude extension that I have made from below, this is held in place with a Couple of 10ba Screws. Thus making the Conversion pretty well able to return the Loco the as Bought except for the 4 Holes on each Buffer Beam.

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However this retro ability may change. Next up was to sort out the buffers. Fortunately I had a nice set of Brass and Steel ones that I got cheep at a Gauge 1 Convention. You know one of those purchases `these will do for something`, well that day came. As these Buffers were close to the Top of my Crude Extension I needed to File part of the Buffer Shaft. I removed the Nut that would be used to hold it in place, then went on to make some new Buffing Surfaces. These were filed up from 30 thou Plasticard and the Buffer Heat Fused in place. The pic shows this and the first one that failed tee hee.

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Having got the buffers sorted by Drilling Holes into my Extension Piece, Fixing with Plastic Adhesive and Superglueing the Buffing Shaft in place I moved onto the Cosmetic Centre Buffer. This again was in the Spares Box, being a Couple of Buffers that I got in my 16mm Days for Chain Couplings. I cut off the Hooks and threw them in the bin. Only to recover them when I realised that I needed a pair of cosmetic Coupling Hooks. Duly recovered they were Glued in place above the Cosmetic Buffers. I also filed a Couple of Slots in each one to more closely resemble Harz Buffers.The Cosmetic Buffers were then screwed into a Couple Of Holes on the Footplate Extension. This can all be pretty well seen in the next Pic.

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I then attacked the White Line (it is Creme on the Piko Kamel), white because some 12mm Go Faster Tape was available at my Local Car Spares Shop. Actually conveniently next door to my Local! This has been put in place all round except for on the Bonnet Front. To be honest this is a bit of a quandry due to the complex Moulding here. Elswhere it fitted OK by deft us of some gentle proding with a small Screwdriver. Though the Cab Door is a problem too and the lining stops either side of the Moulded Handrail. Normally I would have removed that, however as a full repaint is not envisaged I did not go to those lengths. Next I printed up a made up number, 199 832-7. I used a Webb Site to get a correct Check Digit so the 27 was the Chip Number, having made it that due to the V100 nunber having these last 2 numbers. Link to WebbSite tgat dies this Calculation for you:-

http://www.lothar-brill.de/inhalt/modellbahn/pruefziffer-berechnen.html

A hole has also been made in the Exhaust, there are what looks like two of these. I only enlarged the hole on the Long Hood (1) end. I did this by first drilling exact centre with a small drill held in a pin vice, then gradually extended the size with larger drills in a small power drill. I then glued some Plastic Pipe inside the resultant hole to represent the internal Exhaust part of the stack. Also some Plasticard was glued inside the Stack onto the surplus Glazing to disguise any view through the Cab. At this time I also properly glued in the Glazing with Pipe Adhesive. Hopefully it will not pop out again.

Oh the Chip is very easily read and update with my recently Software Upgraded Massoth Kit. I wonder if the latest Massoth Upgrade has made compatibility with the new Maerklin Chips?

Another Query, does anyone know what the unused 3 pin Socket on the Chip is for?

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Finally for this installment 3 Pics of her in the Garden with a short Freight.

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Next up weathering, some Paint in the Mods and what to do about that missing lining. I probably also need to add a scetch of my Footplate Extension Part with sizes.
JonD
 
DB painted the radiator grille surround white:

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and while poking around the V100.de site I came across this one, a more radical bash, but of the original:

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Source: http://v100.de/index.php?nav=1000001&lang=de&id=9990&action=portrait
 
Err, the second piccie looks suspiciously like a Vossloh which the CFL run for cargo.

http://www.rail.lu/materiel/vosslohg1206.html

Oh, before you get bored scroll down to pictures of the nifty little sand refill truck. Cute.
 
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