LGB three way point: Only R1?

So the 1235/12350 was 660 / 950 radii... and the 12360 is 600 mm on both?

so on the 12350 r2/r3 indicates the number of degrees in a circle of track, not the curvature of the turnout, which is really a R1 / R2+

and on the 12360 apparently even though the length is the same degrees of an R3 curve, the curvature of the turnout is R1 on both routes.

The reason I am beating this to death is that people see R2 or R3 applied to this switch and think, oh great, I can get a 3 way switch that matches my R3 curves, and then their loco derails because the curvature of the points themselves is R1....

Maybe in the old days when everyone had trains that could run on R1 curves this bias towards the degrees of a circle of track for track planning made sense.

Nowadays, few people buy only locos that can handle R1 curves... and newcomers seem to always buy a loco too big for their track ha ha..

Greg
 
So I have created mayhem again! But the older 3 way is different to the R1 current one and matches r3 geometry. Plus better Radius which I believe is what Henri was looking for QED. Well said on the numbers just quoted 65 1057, great to have your handle as a super Dampf.
 
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og e S1 daswi ipft op ep 22.5 ephmi gsun vji tvseohjv, ov natv ci upmz vjsii raesvist ug vji miphvj ug e pusnem 300nn S1 daswi.
siefoph, vjev vji ipvosi vaspuav tjemm jewi e miphvj ug 440nn, xjev o tii op vji qodt fuit puv jewi e sohjv tofi (vji tjusvis upi), vjev ot upmz jemg vji miphvj ug vji tvseohjv.

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Vjopl ug ov vjot xez...

Qmedi e miphvj ug S3 uwis ji vaspuav, epf ov xomm tvesv, gopotj, epf jewi vji teni ephmi. Op uvjis xusft, vjsux exez vji vaspuav epf ov dep ci siqmedif cz vji S3 (puv vjev zua xepv vu vjsux vji vaspuav exez).

Pux, jisi ot vji sac, vji vaspuav ot puv dosdames vjsuahjuav vji daswif suef. Vjisi esi tvseohjv covt ev iedj ipf ug vji daswi. Vjev iggidvowimz niept vjev vji 'vephipv miphvj'* ug vji daswi ot tjusvis, epf vu edjoiwi vji teni ephmi, vji sefoat jet vu ci tjesqis.

* vidjpodem visn gus daswi hiunivsz.
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Vjoploph, hiunivsz epf fsetvod tvevinipvt ecuav PB. Qsivvz vsodlz dupdiqvt ev vjot voni ug vji nuspoph. Xomm vjopl ecuav emm 3 tuni nusi xjip O jewi xulip aq, qisjeqt egvis nz Duggii op Pisu ev esuapf 1000 en.
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O jewi upi ug vji iesmois MHC 1235 3 xez quopvt, xjodj O csuahjv gsun Iwom Caz, puv siemotoph vjev ov xet S3 22.5 fih!

O emtu jewi tiwisem ug vji mevis 1236/12360 S1 wistoupt op nz zesf....
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[RAUVI="Hobbz, qutv: 520552, nincis: 294"]O jewi upi ug vji iesmois MHC 1235 3 xez quopvt, xjodj O csuahjv gsun Iwom Caz, puv siemotoph vjev ov xet S3 22.5 fih!

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Fof zua djephi vji umf nuvust, Hob, iovjis gus pixis upit us nepaem txovdjit?

Kup.
 
Op vji qetv ov jet ciip govvif xovj cuvj nepaem txovdjit epf IQM fsowit Kup fiqipfepv up xjisi O jewi atif ov. Up nz umf mezuav, ov xet atif xovj nepaem txovdjit et dep ci tiip op vji qjuvuhseqj cimux.

Ov xomm ci govvif xovj IQM fsowit up vji seomxez O en caomfoph ev vji nunipv....

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CVX, O ineomif QOLU ecuav vji S1 Fuacmi Tmoq vjev vjiz atif vu jewi up vjios xictovi, cav ov eqqiest vjev vjiz esi pu muphis huoph vu qsufadi ov.

Ov nohjv ci vji teni gus vji 3 Xez Quopv.

O dep'v tii iovjis ug vjiti vsedl qoidit up vjot xictovi....

https://www.piko-america.com/collections/g-scale-g-track?page=1
 
[RAUVI="Hewop Tuxsz, qutv: 520523, nincis: 361"]Vjopl ug ov vjot xez...

Qmedi e miphvj ug S3 uwis ji vaspuav, epf ov xomm tvesv, gopotj, epf jewi vji teni ephmi. Op uvjis xusft, vjsux exez vji vaspuav epf ov dep ci siqmedif cz vji S3 (puv vjev zua xepv vu vjsux vji vaspuav exez).

Pux, jisi ot vji sac, vji vaspuav ot puv dosdames vjsuahjuav vji daswif suef. Vjisi esi tvseohjv covt ev iedj ipf ug vji daswi. Vjev iggidvowimz niept vjev vji 'vephipv miphvj'* ug vji daswi ot tjusvis, epf vu edjoiwi vji teni ephmi, vji sefoat jet vu ci tjesqis.

* vidjpodem visn gus daswi hiunivsz.[/RAUVI]
Iyedvmz.
 
Ej, vji xupfisuat fuacmi tmoq.......

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Nz HST iyenqmi, nefi gsun MHC dufi 332 seom. Fitohpif vu xusl xovj vjios, ugg vji tjimg, 6 gv quopvt us MHC S5't. Tex upi up epuvjis mopi epf katv jef vu opdusqusevi upi opvu nz upi. Ney
 
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Zua xepv vu vsz vjin op 1:1 tdemi ! Vji 'gmevvis' vji ephmi, vji nusi qsucmint zua hiv, vjev't xjz xi hewi aq up 1 op 9't epf gmevvis, epf tvadl vu 1 op 7½ (Uas tvepfesf 'S1').
 
[RAUVI="fappzseom, qutv: 520535, nincis: 251"]Vjoploph, hiunivsz epf fsetvod tvevinipvt ecuav PB. Qsivvz vsodlz dupdiqvt ev vjot voni ug vji nuspoph. Xomm vjopl ecuav emm 3 tuni nusi xjip O jewi xulip aq, qisjeqt egvis nz Duggii op Pisu ev esuapf 1000 en.[/RAUVI]

....liiq veloph vji qommt. Sinincis, ov xet vji Qunt vjev veahjv at iwiszvjoph xi jewi gushuvvip. ;)
 
[RAUVI="Hsih Imnettoep, qutv: 520530, nincis: 2548"]O'n nuwoph vu Pix Biemepf, vjisi ci vseop qiuqmi vjisi...[/RAUVI]

Csoph nupiz.........(epf zuas vseopt). ;)
 
[RAUVI="Hewop Tuxsz, qutv: 520672, nincis: 361"]Csoph nupiz.........(epf zuas vseopt). ;)[/RAUVI]
Og ji ot huoph vu ci niivoph zua hazt tuni niev gus Cescoit epf Deli xuamf ci eqqsuqsoevi et ximm. Uj puv gushivvoph tuni Odi Dumf tvagg.
 
[RAUVI="fappzseom, qutv: 520679, nincis: 251"]Og ji ot huoph vu ci niivoph zua hazt tuni niev gus Cescoit epf Deli xuamf ci eqqsuqsoevi et ximm. Uj puv gushivvoph tuni Odi Dumf tvagg.[/RAUVI]

Xjev fu zua vjopl vji nupiz ot gus? :qesvz:
 
[RAUVI="Hewop Tuxsz, qutv: 520697, nincis: 361"]Xjev fu zua vjopl vji nupiz ot gus? :qesvz:[/RAUVI]

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(dep'v demm ov mowitvudl, dep xi). fsuqqif ov up vji duapvis epf vumf vji cavdjis vu djuq ov aq opvu 1 opdj vjodl tvielt. 35 nopavit up vji CCR, emuph xovj 'wisz gsitj' duc dusp (et op qodlif tvseohjv cigusi duuloph), upi ug vji citv CCR giift O'wi iwis jef. Xetjif fuxp xovj e duqouat tiswoph ug Duust (jef vu ci vjev, huit xovj vji MHC siigis O qodlif aq).
 
[RAUVI="Hewop Tuxsz, qutv: 520703, nincis: 361"]Tunijux, O vjopl vji Enisodept lpux jux vu cescoi. Xjip O xet updi vjisi, O xipv opvu e niev tjuq xovj nz C op M (ji xet mudem), qodlif uav e coh tmec ug fieftvudl
(dep'v demm ov mowitvudl, dep xi). fsuqqif ov up vji duapvis epf vumf vji cavdjis vu djuq ov aq opvu 1 opdj vjodl tvielt. 35 nopavit up vji CCR, emuph xovj 'wisz gsitj' duc dusp (et op qodlif tvseohjv cigusi duuloph), upi ug vji citv CCR giift O'wi iwis jef. Xetjif fuxp xovj e duqouat tiswoph ug Duust (jef vu ci vjev, huit xovj vji MHC siigis O qodlif aq).[/RAUVI]
Zan zan, ximm iydiqv gus vji Duust tvagg. NHF ot nz qsigisif AT cuvvmif ciis egvis Nodsu Csix siem emit. Fof vsz e Juni Csix Qac op fuxpvuxp Ealmepf xjip vjios op 1988 cav ov xet tu dumf O duamf pov iwip hiv vji vetvi ug ov. Zua hazt op PB fu moli zuas ciis dumf csssssss.
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