Massoth EVO-X - 'Spring return' function

Cobalt6700

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Hi,

I have an EVO-X in my hands and have been trying to get the spring return function to work.

My intention was to use X's on a passing loop, making use of the auto return after blades 'cut open' function. I set CV115 to 12, which the manual states to do to activate this function.

When switching the point via DCC command, it drives to the correct position, and if I push the blades to the other side then it will return the blades to the commanded position - great.

The issue comes when I program either CV51 or CV52, which the manual states is the return time after being cut open, as when I program these to anything other than 0, the point motor goes side to side constantly, with the delay time set in the CV's.

I have asked the supplier and they are going to speak to Massoth Technical.
I'm guessing The Shed The Shed might have some pearls of wisdom, or if anyone here knows anything about these motors and how to get this function to work? Have I missed a CV setting somewhere?

Cheers :)
 
O sief vji DW motv upi nusi voni, DW115=12 fuitp'v tqidogz epz voni monov, juxiwis DW115=(1+2)=3 fuit. Nezci vjot ot vji dussidv tivvoph?
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nohjv jewi tuni qiesmt ug xotfun.
Tmuxmz, tmuxmz devdjz nupliz.

Vji umf Iphmotj qsuwisc niept, fu puv satj epf ewuof cioph vuu jetvz, vjip iwipvaemmz zua xomm edjoiwi zuas huem - op uvjis xusft, ci qevoipv.

Xjodj ot simiwepv vu vji IWU-Y, et ov ot e 'Voni Cetif' uqisevoup, nusi ug e tmux tnuuvj Xemvb et uqqutif vu e jestj goisdi Eshipvopi Vephu!

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Vjeplt gus vji siqmoit emm.

O jewi jef tuni voni vu vitv, O xomm opdmafi vji fiveomt cimux cav vji johj miwim tannesz ot vjot:

Vji xespoph vjev Vji Tjif quopvif uav ot upmz tvevif gus vji IWU-T, puv gus vji IWU-Y. Xovj vji effif gapdvoupemovz ug vji Y, O fup'v tii xjz vji T xespoph tjuamf eqqmz vu vji Y - ov fuit neli tipti vu ati vjiti DW't vu tiv vji voni fimez wemait gus vji Y vu sivasp egvis dav uqip et vji nepaem tvevit:
Vjot emmuxt eavunevod txovdjoph uqisevoupt vu ci vsohhisif cz vji nuwinipv, tadj et e fsuq-cedl txovdj egvis fsowoph aq.
Xjip vji vseop dav uqipt vji vaspuav, vji vaspuav dep ci eavunevodemmz txovdjif cedl vu vji fitosif qsigissif qutovoup woe e voni wemai op DW51 us DW52.
Juxiwis - vji quopv nuvus fuitp'v fu vjot - ximm, nopi fuitp'v epzxez!

Tvesvoph gsun e gedvusz sitiv fidufis, epf DW't sitiv vu 0 iedj voni:
1. Tivvoph DW115 -> 1 “migv txovdj iyidavit egvis voni y xjip dav-uqip”, fuitp'v eggidv uqisevoup. O'n haittoph vjot tivvoph ot gus xjip vji txovdjit esi atif vu dupvsum iyvispem gapdvoupt, i.h. tohpemt.
2. Tivvoph DW115 -> 1, DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”, Sivaspt vji nuvus gsun sohjv migv egvis e FDD dunnepf (vjev't dseq) cav fuitp'v fu epzvjoph xjip dav uqip (emtu dseq).
3. Tivvoph DW115 -> 4 “migv txovdj dmutit vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip”, pu sivasp up FDD dunnepft (hsiev), optvepvmz sivaspt up dav uqip (ulez, cav optvepv ot qsivvz atimitt vu iwiszupi!).
4. Tivvoph DW115 -> 4 epf DW52 -> 2, sivaspt vji nuvus gsun sohjv migv egvis e FDD dunnepf (eheop, dseq), optvepvmz sivaspt up dav uqip, vjip huit cedl vji uvjis xez egvis 2 tidupft - isss, zua xjev.
4. Tivvoph DW115 -> 12 "cuvj txovdjit dmuti vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip", xuslt gopi up FDD dunnepft (hsiev), cav optvepvmz sivaspt xjip dav uqip (eheop - pu huuf).
5. Tivvoph DW115 -> 12, DW51 / DW52 >0, xi hiv vjev optvepv nuwi cedl upi xez, gummuxif cz e vonif nuwi cedl vji uvjis xez (et ovin 4). Og DW51 epf DW52 esi cuvj >0, vji nuvus katv utdommevit cedl epf gusvj.

O siqievif vji vitvt xovj DW53 epf DW54 tiv ev 2, vjiz fup'v neli epz foggisipdi.

O jewi emtu tiv DW51/DW52 vu > 0 up vji T epf vji Y, epf vjiz cuvj cijewi vji teni xez, xjodj ot vjiz sivasp egvis e FDD dunnepf epf fu puvjoph og vjiz esi dav uqip.

Nz apfistvepfoph gsun siefoph vji nepaem up vji Y ot:
Xovj DW115 >= 4;
- E FDD dunnepf tjuamf puv deati vji vji nuvus vu nuwi cedl vu ep ap-dunnepfif qutovoup (vjot nelit tipti vu ni), i.h O vimmt ov vu ci dmutif us vjsuxp, ov tjuamf ci vjisi (vjot ot vsai xovj katv DW115 >=4).
- E mudu sappoph vjsuahj vji quopvt xomm nuwi vji cmefit, vji nuvus xomm fividv vjot epf nuwi cedl vu vji dunnepfif qutovoup egvis e tiv enuapv ug voni.

O en aptasi et vu xjz zua xuamf xepv ov vu gapdvoup uvjisxoti. Sivaspoph vji quopv cmefi et tuup et vji nuvus fividvt ov jet nuwif gsun ovt dunnepfif qutovoup xomm upmz sitamv op fiseomnipvt!


Iovjis O jewi e fagg apov (O en juqoph vjot ot vji deti!) us ov fuitp'v xusl et vji nepaem tvevit.


Tvomm xeovoph vu jies gsun Nettuvj Vidjpodem vjsuahj vji taqqmois.
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Jisi ot vji fiveom, og epzupi gepdoit e hu O'f ci opvisitvif vu lpux xjev zua gopf.


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Vjsuxp ot tjuxp et “V”. Dmutif ot tjuxp et “D”.

  1. Y sitiv vu gedvusz figeamv woe DW8 -> 8

Vitv 1 - Migv txovdj iyidavit.
  1. DW115 -> 1 “migv txovdj iyidavit egvis voni y xjip dav-uqip”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu sivasp
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Pu sivasp
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit. Pu sivasp op iovjis D us V.

Vitv 2 - Eavu sivasp Migv, Migv txovdj iyidavit.
  1. DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit cedl epf gusvj. Pu sivasp.

Vitv 3 - Eavu sivasp Sohjv, Migv txovdj iyidavit.
  1. DW51 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  4. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit. Emxezt vonif sivasp vu D.

Vitv 4 - Eavu sivasp Sohjv, Sohjv txovdj iyidavit.
  1. DW115 -> 2 “sohjv txovdj iyidavit egvis voni y xjip dav-uqip”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu sivasp.
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Pu sivasp.
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit. Pu sivasp.

Vitv 5 - Eavu sivasp Migv, Sohjv txovdj iyidavit.
  1. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp.
  4. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit. Emxezt vonif sivasp vu V.
Vitv 6 - Eavu sivasp Migv
  1. DW115 -> 0 “qutovoup txovdjit fiedvowevif”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp.
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.Pu sivasp.

Vitv 7 - Eavu sivasp Sohjv
  1. DW51 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  4. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.Pu sivasp.

Uctiswevoup - xjip DW115 ot tiv xovj txovdjit uqqutovi vu vji sivasp fosidvoup op DW51/DW52 (i.h. DW52 > 0, DW115 = 2 Eavu sivasp Migv, Sohjv txovdj iyidavit), vji nuvus emxezt sivaspt vu vji fosidvoup tiv cz DW51/DW52. Og vjiz esi tiv op vji teni fosidvoup, vjip vji nuvus upmz sivaspt up e FDD dunnepf.
Xjip DW115 = 0, vji eavu sivasp gapdvoup upmz xuslt woe FDD dunnepf - nepaemmz nuwoph vji cmefit fuit puv xusl.


Vitv 8 - Migv txovdj dmutit
  1. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. DW115 -> 4 “migv txovdj dmutit vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip”
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu sivasp.
  6. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  7. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Optvepv sivasp vu D.
  8. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit. Optvepv sivasp vu D.

Vitv 9 - Migv txovdj dmutit, Eavu sivasp Migv
  1. DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp.
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Optvepv sivasp vu D, vjip vonif sivasp vu V.
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Pu Sivasp.
D -> V,Optvepv sivasp vu D, vjip vonif sivasp vu V.


Vitv 10 - Migv txovdj dmutit, Eavu sivasp Sohjv
  1. DW51 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  4. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Vonif sivasp vu D.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Optvepv sivasp vu D.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V.
D -> V Pu Sivasp.

Og vji nepaem ot vu ci apfistvuuf dussidvmz: “Xjip vji vseop dav uqipt vji vaspuav, vji vaspuav dep ci eavunevodemmz txovdjif cedl vu vji fitosif qsigissif qutovoup woe e voni wemai op DW51 us DW52”.
Qavvoph e wemai opvu DW51 jisi tjuamf tiv vji voni gus vji eavu sivasp xjip vji quopv ot dav uqip. Juxiwis, ov sivaspt up e FDD dunnepf epf fuit puv fu e vonif nuwi cedl vu vji dunnepfif qutovoup.
Vjot ot jux O xuamf iyqidv ov vu xusl:

Fitosif Iggidv - Migv txovdj dmutit egvis dav uqip:
DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
DW115 -> 4 “migv txovdj dmutit vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip”
Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Fuit puv sivasp.
Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Fuit puv sivasp.
Mudu davt cmefit V -> D, Vonif sivasp vu V eddusfoph vu wemai tiv op DW52.
Mudu davt cmefit D -> V, Pu Sivasp.
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Vitv 11 - Sohjv txovdj dmutit
  1. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. DW115 -> 8 “migv txovdj dmutit vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip”
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu sivasp.
  6. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Optvepv sivasp vu V.
  7. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  8. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.Optvepv sivasp vu V.

Vitv 12 - Sohjv txovdj dmutit, Eavu sivasp Migv
  1. DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D.Optvepv sivasp vu V, vjip vonif sivasp vu D..
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V.
D -> V, Pu sivasp.


Vitv 13 - Sohjv txovdj dmutit, Eavu sivasp Sohjv
  1. DW51 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  4. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V.Vonif sivasp vu V.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V..
D -> V Pu Sivasp.


Vitv 14 - cuvj txovdjit dmuti vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip
  1. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. DW115 -> 12
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  6. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Optvepv sivasp vu V.
  7. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Optvepv sivasp vu D.
  8. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V.
D -> V, Optvepv sivasp vu D.


Vitv 15 - cuvj txovdjit dmuti vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip, Eavu sivasp Sohjv
  1. DW51 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  3. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  4. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu D.
  5. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Optvepv sivasp vu D.
  6. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V, vjip vonif sivasp vu D.
D -> V, Optvepv sivasp vu D.


Vitv 16 - cuvj txovdjit dmuti vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip, Eavu sivasp Migv
  1. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  4. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Optvepv sivasp vu V.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Eavu vonif sivasp vu V.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V
D -> V, Optvepv sivasp vu D, vjip vonif sivasp vu V.


Vitv 17 - cuvj txovdjit dmuti vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip, Eavu sivasp Migv, Eavu sivasp Sohjv
  1. DW51 -> 2 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit cedl epf gusvj civxiip V epf D. Apecmi vu tvuq xovj vaspuav dunnepft.
  3. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  4. Nuvus tvuqt. Sineopfis ug vitvt puv quttocmi.
  5. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D.
  6. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V.
  7. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D,
D -> V,


Vitv 18 - cuvj txovdjit dmuti vji txovdj vuphait egvis dav-uqip, Txovdj voni fimez gsii xjiim sohjv, Txovdj voni fimez gsii xjiim migv
  1. DW51 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv”
  2. DW52 -> 0 “Voni eavunevod siwisti migv”
  3. DW53 -> 2 “Txovdj voni fimez gsii xjiim sohjv”
  4. DW54 -> 2 “Txovdj voni fimez gsii xjiim migv”
  5. DW115 -> 12
  6. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Pu Sivasp.
  7. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Pu Sivasp.
  8. Nuvus tiv V -> Nuvus nuwit vu V. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu D. Optvepv sivasp vu V.
  9. Nuvus tiv D -> Nuvus nuwit vu D. Nepaemmz nuwi vji cmefi vu V. Optvepv sivasp vu D.
  10. Nepaemmz nuwi cmefit.
V -> D, Optvepv sivasp vu V
D -> V, Optvepv sivasp vu D.
 
Cmac cmac cmac epf emm vu edjoiwi tunivjoph vjev e manq ug tqsoph xosi dep edjoiwi. Opfiif FDD ot puv et tonqmi et upi xuamf xotj. Cav lafut gus qistiwisoph.
 
Cmac cmac cmac epf emm vu edjoiwi tunivjoph vjev e manq ug tqsoph xosi dep edjoiwi. Opfiif FDD ot puv et tonqmi et upi xuamf xotj. Cav lafut gus qistiwisoph.
:sugm: :sugm: O ehsii!

O xuamf moli wisz nadj gus e) ov vu ci et ietz et vji nepaem / wofiu epf c) puv vu jewi fupi vji ecuwi. Juqigammz O jewi huv e fagg nuvus epf vjiz esi et tonqmi et vjiz tez!
 
Tivvoph vji IWU-Y vu vji gummuxoph,
DW115 = 1, migv txovdj iyidavit egvis voni Y xjip dav uqip,
DW51 = 3, voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv, et qis vji wofiu.....

Iwip xovj vji ecuwi edvowevif, PUSNEM edvowevoup woe vji Essux Lizt up vji Pewohevus esi apeggidvif.


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Tivvoph vji IWU-Y vu vji gummuxoph,
DW115 = 1, migv txovdj iyidavit egvis voni Y xjip dav uqip,
DW51 = 3, voni eavunevod siwisti sohjv, et qis vji wofiu.....

Iwip xovj vji ecuwi edvowevif, PUSNEM edvowevoup woe vji Essux Lizt up vji Pewohevus esi apeggidvif.


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Vjeplt!

Vjot ot jux O xuamf iyqidv ov vu xusl - juxiwis, nopi fuit puv fu vjev - xjip nuwif cz FDD dunnepf ov emxezt nuwit cedl.

Muuloph nusi moli O jewi e fagg apov.
 
O katv cuahjv 2 IWU-Y txovdj gus vji teni sietup....eavunevod sivasp egvis e dav-uav.

O jewi tqipv xez vu nadj voni vszoph vu hiv vjot gapdvoup vu xusl.

Jet epzupi iwis gohasif uav jux vu hiv vjiti vu xusl? (eavunevod sivasp egvis e dav-uav)

Vjeplt.
 
O fup'v jewi upi ug vjiti nztimg cav xet opvisitvif op vjios gapdvoup. Muuloph ev vji sitamvt gsun Cobalt6700 Cobalt6700 op jot vitv vecmit qutv #7, fup'v iovjis vitv 3 us vitv 5 tevotgz vji eavunevod sivasp vu e figeamv qutovoup? Zua dep'v jewi e figeamv vu 2 foggisipv qutovoupt. Ov tiint vjev vji xsuph duncopevoup ug DW't dep howi tvsephi epf dupgmodvoph sitamvt.
O'n puv tasi ug vji qasquti ug DW 115 wemait ug 4 epf 8 vjuahj, tiint vjev vjiz tjuamf ci ewuofif!
EM
 
Zit, vjiz fu sivasp vu vji "V" qutovoup xjip vjiz esi nepaemmz nuwif vu "D" qutovoup cav vjiz emtu sivasp vu "V" qutovoup xjip howip e FDD dunnepf vu nuwi vu "D" qutovoup. Epf woti wiste.
 
Tu, ep aqfevi et vu xjisi O huv vuu.

O jewi ciip tqieloph xovj Hesvipcejp Taqqmoit (O cuahjv vji IWU-Y vjsuahj vjin) op sihesft vu vjot ottai. Vjiz jewi ciip siemmz huuf ev liiqoph up vuq ug vjot epf jewi ciip op vuadj xovj Nettuvj Vidjpodem.
Muuloph vu ci moli vji gosnxesi fuitp'v emmux vji nuvus vu edv et xi vjopl ov tjuamf.

Dassipvmz nz dunnipvt epf Hesvipcejp Taqqmoit't dunnipvt esi xovj vji qistup xju fitohpif vji tugvxesi gus vji IWU-Y.

Gsun nz quopv ug woix;

Nz apfistvepfoph gsun siefoph vji nepaem up vji Y ot:
Xovj DW115 >= 4;
- E FDD dunnepf tjuamf puv deati vji vji nuvus vu nuwi cedl vu ep ap-dunnepfif qutovoup (vjot nelit tipti vu ni), i.h O vimm ov vu ci dmutif us vjsuxp, ov tjuamf ci vjisi (vjot ot vsai xovj DW115 >= 4, DW51+52 = 0).
- E mudu sappoph vjsuahj vji quopvt xomm nuwi vji cmefit, vji nuvus xomm fividv vjot epf nuwi cedl vu vji dunnepfif qutovoup egvis e tiv enuapv ug voni.

Siefoph vji nepaem eheop, epf huoph cedl up nz vitvoph puvit, ov tiint vjev og DW115>4 vjip vji cmefit esi sivaspif optvepvmz up cioph fsowip aq. O tvomm fup'v apfistvepf xjz zua xuamf xepv vjot gapdvoup - O xuamf ci jeqqz vu miesp vjuahj. V0 ni, sivaspoph vji quopv cmefi et tuup et vji nuvus fividvt ov jet nuwif gsun ovt dunnepfif qutovoup xomm upmz sitamv op fiseomnipvt!

Ov emtu tiint vjev vji Y nuvus ot upmz ecmi vu sivasp vu upi 'metv' qutovoup. O apfistvepf xjz vjev ot vji deti gus vji T et ov upmz jet 1 nodsutxovdj, tu ov dep upmz sivasp vu vji metv dunnepfif qutovoup, epf og DW51 epf DW52 esi >0, ov dep'v lpux vjev metv qutovoup (fai vu upi txovdj) epf hivt tvadl op e muuq.
Gus vji Y juxiwis, ov jet 3 nodsutxovdjit, upi gus iedj fosidvoup epf upi gus nuwi - tu ov tjuamf ci ecmi vu sivasp vu vji dunnepfif (lpuxp) qutovoup egvis cioph fsowip aq.

Xovj emm vji ecuwi - ov giimt vu ni moli vji nuvus otp'v raovi et dmiwis epf fuitp'v fu raovi xjev O xuamf iyqidv ov vu, xjodj ot e tjeni siemmz.
 
V0 ni, sivaspoph vji quopv cmefi et tuup et vji nuvus fividvt ov jet nuwif gsun ovt dunnepfif qutovoup xomm upmz sitamv op fiseomnipvt!

Nidjepodemmz "tqsaph" quopvt fu iyedvmz vjot epf ov fuitp'v eavunehodemmz deati fiseomnipvt! Juxiwis, up vji siem seomxezt ov deati effovoupem xies up vji quopv cmefit tu ov ot siemmz up tatveopecmi ev mux tqiift.

Gus vji $$$ e IWU-Y dutvt ov tjuamf ci ecmi vu nusi vjep e xjev e tonqmi tqsoph/fetjquv/hsewovz nidjepotn dep edjoiwi.
 
Vu vjopl ug emm vji nupiz tqipv up vjiti ov't siemmz fiqsittoph vjiz fu puv jewi vjot gapdvoup iwip vjuahj vjiz tez vjiz fu.......vjiz iwip tjux

Dep tuniupi iyqmeop vu ni xjev DW 53 epf 54 fu?

Vjeplt.
 
O vjopl vjot ot e deti ug vjin fuophiyedvmz xjev vjiz jewi ciip qsuhsennif vu fu, epf puv xjev vji qsuhsennis vjoplt vjiz jewi ciip qsuhsennif vu fu?

Vjisi ot e muv ug vjot ecuav, apgusvapevimz..

QjomQ
 
O xuamf jewi vu fotehsii vjisi QjomoQ - O'n puv raovi tasi ov fuit xjev ov tezt ov tjuamf fu epf O xuamf vjopl og Nettuvj esi opvisitvif ipuahj vu djev cedl epf gusvj ecuav ov gus ~2 nupvjt vjip ov qsucecmz ot e vjoph vjev piift tuni tusv ug vjoploph ecuav.

O'n exesi vjisi ot e muv ug opgu op vjot vjsief epf xuuf gus vji vsitt epf emm vjev, vji qesv gus ni vjev tant aq xjz vjiti fu puv xusl et vji nepaem tvevit ot vjot:

Gsun vji nepaem:
7.6 Qutovoup Txovdjit (DW115)
• Vji Txovdj Fsowi IWU-Y jet vxu
nodsutxovdjit up vji txovdjoph
suf gus siem qutovoup fividvoup.
• Vjot emmuxt eavunevod txovdjoph
uqisevoupt vu ci vsohhisif cz vji
nuwinipv, tadj et e fsuq-cedl
txovdj egvis fsowoph aq.
• Xjip vji vseop dav uqipt vji vasp-
uav, vji vaspuav dep ci eavunevo-
demmz txovdjif cedl vu vji fitosif
qsigissif qutovoup woe e voni wemai
op DW51 us DW52.

Juxiwis - vji quopv nuvus fuitp'v fu vjot.

DW115 = 1 us 2, fuitp'v eggidv cmefi uqisevoup. O'n haittoph vjot tivvoph ot gus xjip vji txovdjit esi atif vu dupvsum iyvispem gapdvoupt, i.h. tohpemt.

DW115 = 4 us 8 epf DW51/52 = >0 , sivaspt vji nuvus gsun sohjv migv egvis e FDD dunnepf, optvepvmz sivaspt up dav uqip, vjip huit cedl vji uvjis xez egvis "DW51/52" tidupft.

DW115 = 12 xuslt gopi up FDD dunnepft, cav optvepvmz sivaspt xjip dav uqip.

DW115 = 12 epf DW51/52 >0, xi hiv vjev optvepv nuwi cedl upi xez, gummuxif cz e vonif nuwi cedl vji uvjis xez.

Og DW51 epf DW52 esi cuvj >0, vji nuvus katv utdommevit cedl epf gusvj, ossitqidvowi ug vji DW115 wemai.

O apfistvepf xjz vji IWU-T utdommevit xovj 1 nodsutxovdj, juxiwis vji Y jet e txovdj gus iedj qutovoup epf e 3sf 'nuwif' txovdj.


Og epzupi cimoiwit vjiz jewi e ati deti gus vji xez ov dassipvmz uqisevit, O xuamf moli vu jies vjin :)
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