New Accucraft Baguley 0-6-0D with all metal chassis

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Just a few photos of the first sample of the new 'all metal' chassis Baguley diesel from Accucraft UK. The model features all flanged wheels and six wheel power pick up. Drive is on to the centre axle and transmitted via metal coupling rods. The model is dual gaugeable by the customer by sliding the wheels in and moving the power pick ups in to new pre-tapped holes.
The sample loco will be be showing at the Stoneleigh, feedback will be appreciated for
colour preferences.

At this stage Accucraft think they will go for an all black chassis with cab colour options of Green, Maroon, Black, Blue, or Yellow. Yellow with Wasp stripes is NOT an option they are looking at!

At this point the project is at an early stage and no release date or final price have been decided on, but Accucraft think the RRP could be in the range of £275 - £295. The chassis would be available on its own for people who wanted to either re-chassis their existing Baguley, or wanted to build
their own model. The present body is a straight fit on to the new chassis.
Arrangements are also being made to offer a 2.4GHz R/C battery version.

Just the job!

OK then. I'm feeling a little daft, but how do you poist pictures in this new forum? There don't appear to be any suitable options when posting?

John
 
Sea Lion said:
OK then. I'm feeling a little daft, but how do you poist pictures in this new forum? There don't appear to be any suitable options when posting?

John
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its the little paper clip symbol just next to the smile face symbol ;)
 
Oh bugger what a dilema. Do I convert my existing Baguley to battery power or re-chassis it when the "all metal" jobby is releasd.

Or

Convert existing one to battery power, then re-chassis it and use the original chassis for a scratchbuild.

Oh the possbilities.
 
the baggity becomes what it promised
 
I would definitely be interested in a new chassis for my Baguley!

It was the first loco I bought a couple of years ago, and initially it just ran around a simple loop I would put out on the flat wooden living room floor. So I just couldn't understand the complaints about the running of it. For me it performed fantastically - it's slow speed crawl was barely visible, but totally smooth and totally reliable. It was actually much better than anything else I had. And then I built the line outside... The problems I now have with it are all because there are only two track pickups per-side and no skates, and whilst the line is pretty flat, it's not perfect and the Baguley just cannot cope with the slight undulations that exist. In addition it's wheels seem to attract dirt in a way that others just don't - perhaps because they have tiny grooves in them. The result is that it often stalls losing power and needs a little shove to get going again which is just no fun!

All of that said I certainly won't part with it as am rather fond of it, having given it a cosmetic makeover (must get some nameplates and a number). On a lovely summer's day when the track and it's wheels are perfectly clean and there's little residual dirt around the line it will trundle around quite happily! I have attempted to model it after the prototype on the VoR. There are some nice pictures of the original here http://www.sandstone-estates.com/oldSHT/interim/Vale_of_Rheidol_Railway_Aberyst/index.html < Link To http://www.sandstone-esta...way_Aberyst/index.html (scroll down to the bottom of the page).

And here is my effort:

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It currently has an ESU Lokpilot XL decoder in it which allegedly includes a capacitor to give up to a second of reserve power in case of lost connection, but I must say I see little evidence of that working properly. I have also added some additional weight to improve traction and connectivity, but problems do persist. So I am considering adding pickups to the wagons to which it usually pulls and adding a connection between them all to give more contact points with the track.

But I do think that an improved chassis could be the solution, and I'm glad that Accucraft are planning to reintroduce it at a sensible price. It's great to have an off the shelf, UK outline model which people can afford! My only question is with the centre wheels flanged will it still negotiate radius 1 curves?

Anyway, as I said, great news!
 
Ooooh - want one....
 
jimmielx said:
... In addition it's wheels seem to attract dirt in a way that others just don't - perhaps because they have tiny grooves in them.
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Yes, I've noticed the same problem with mine: it's not seen a lot of use but any plating there was has now worn way to reveal these concentric grooves, and I certainly hope that improved wheels will be part of the new chassis design?

As long as I keep the wheels really clean, mine's not too bad out doors. It's also DCC fitted like yours (I forget which decoder, might even be a LokPilot), and has one of those very basic sound cards from ebay (MrRails I think). I fitted LED head/rear lights.
 
I just added some LGB pick-up skates to mine this evening too, oddly before I saw Cheeky Monkey's post. I ordered them months ago but hadn't figured out how to fit them. Anyway this evening I put my mind and some scraps of plasticard to it and it's made a huge difference! It crawled super-slowly around the line and over all the points without so much as a jerk or shudder and certainly no stalling. Far to cold for any proper testing at midnight though - I was only outside for five minutes! So I guess time will tell, but I'm hopeful that it will be much more reliable now.

The KOF does look nice, but it's a little too European for me. So I'll be very glad to see a new improved Accucraft Baguley back on the shelves.
 
Cheeky Monkey said:
I added LGB pick up shoes to mine during one of its chassis repairs which improved things a little.

Still just under £300 for a shunter the new Kof looks great value in comparison for around another £50 you get a stronger/better motor, DCC, working directional lights and a much more intricate moulding/body
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Yes but its,
A) ugly as sin,
B) European,
C) Sounds like you are swearing whenever you mention it !
Granted it has the LGB mechanicals though.
 
I guess we should swap 'European' for 'Mainland European' to avoid confusion!

There are a good selection of Mainland European and US American locos on the narrow gauge 45mm track powered market. There are also a lot British Outline narrow gauge 32mm/45mm live steam or battery locos and of course gauge 1. But there is not a huge selection of track powered narrow gauge in this scale. Personally I'm interested in modelling British Outline and I like having the railway run itself with minimal interference (although I do have a live steamer for when the mood takes me) so 45mm track powered with a good dose of Rule 8 is perfect for me. So LGB is a nearly perfect fit - except for the British bit.

The brilliant thing that LGB did I my view, was to make a garden railway a realistic prospect for people on a modest income with small or even tiny spaces. Gauge 1 requires a huge amount of space, SM32 is really live steam and battery, which is great but not for everyone. LGB is a bit like the Hornby trainset you had on the living room floor when you were little, same theory just bigger and outdoors. It's also really solid and not fiddly, it just works. What Accucraft are doing which is really fantastic is making British Outline stock for this gauge/scale. That's not available from LGB and apart from the Aristo Class 66 isn't really available from anyone else off the shelf.

So I for one am delighted that Accucraft are continuing to develop their models. The original post states that they have addressed the chassis of the Baguley which did receive some criticism. I'm hopeful that the additional centre wheel pickups will improve the running. There certainly does seem to be space for both companies to operate, bringing quite different things to the market as they each do. I look forward to seeing more from both - obviously personally I'm much more likely to buy from Accucraft as theirs are models of the outline I'm modeling (although I do have LGB track and points!).
 
Cheeky monkey you really are not helping!! I'm trying to resist a kof and it's getting harder and harder. If I was getting one it would have to go through a re paint and would not look out of place as many narrow gauge lines buy ex industrial stock. Wonder if it could be converted to battery?
 
I don't think the Kof will interest most of the people who would be in the market for the Baguley, as it is German standard guage & so would look out of place in a British narrow guage setting. The opposite is also true.
If you run to Rule 8 then the decision will probably be down to what looks best with your stock. Well done Accucraft for sorting out what was wrong with the original though.
 
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