NEWQIDA EUROPEAN STYLE PASSENGER CARS RETURN FOR 2014

playmofire said:
Nice videos, Tim. Is it a mylocosounds sound card in the cycle van on the Playmobil train?

The sound is the basic generic LGB steam sound card taken from an old LGB sound boxcar. I fitted track power pickups to power the card plus transfer power to the loco.
 
playmofire said:
I see your view and agree with you entirely, Tim. That is why I suggested that you send the analysis you have produced for this topic to Hammonds, stressing that if they followed your suggestions they would have a much better product at no extra cost. If they have any commercial sense, they will take your suggestions up with their supplier. (Sadly, if they do so their commercial sense may also mean that they put their prices up to reflect the greater accuracy of the product, but even then the coaches might still be a good buy.)


I believe that Hammonds have a technical adviser in Germany (he designed the high arch roof tooling as seen on the HSB Harz red/cream cars). The German market is very large for these cars, but they are quite discerning, so I would think this time around the build quality will be spot on. The first release HSB (Harz) coaches were met with a lot of complaints in Germany and many returned as substandard due poor paint/livery application.

As regards the alteration to existing models, well, considering it may be another four or five years before another production run, then I really could not see any short term changes occurring. The models are correct for at least one livery as I mentioned in a previous posting. This time around I will only need a few coaches as I can prototypically run these with previously purchased 'DR' livery coaches.
 
Tim Brien said:
The sound is the basic generic LGB steam sound card taken from an old LGB sound boxcar. I fitted track power pickups to power the card plus transfer power to the loco.

Thanks for the info. The Newqida coaches in your videos look superb, btw.
 
KeithT said:
On the originals removal of the printing was impossible without scoring the sides. However, they are easy to respray in your selected colours,

Not in my experience Keith. I removed the printing with T Cut and a bid of elbow grease. Sustained no scratches at all. Indeed the resulting polished finish was quite pleasant.

I had to rub mine down as I was repainting em. As Keith already states they're easy enough to re-spray anyhow.
 
Don't you tend to get a (sort-of) bleed-through of the lettering if you do not remove it??
A sort of difference in the 'level of gloss' between lettering and plain body?

I seem to get this effect even if I flat off the edges of the lettering on things.
 
PhilP said:
Don't you tend to get a (sort-of) bleed-through of the lettering if you do not remove it??
A sort of difference in the 'level of gloss' between lettering and plain body?

I seem to get this effect even if I flat off the edges of the lettering on things.

Yep, it's definitely advisable to remove the lettering if you're re-spraying em. As I say T Cut (or Mer polish for that matter) will get it off.
 
PhilP said:
Don't you tend to get a (sort-of) bleed-through of the lettering if you do not remove it??
A sort of difference in the 'level of gloss' between lettering and plain body?

I seem to get this effect even if I flat off the edges of the lettering on things.

It's certainly advisable to as Gareth says, but at least for the previous run of Newquida it wasn't absolutely necessary; although getting a proper cover in my case required a primer and two top coats from rattle cans when I had a signficant difference in the original colour (ie red) to the end result (which is what is called here "federation heritage" green and cream). When I started with green as the original one primer and one colour coat worked OK.
 
Good to see them back. I owned some of the blue/white ones and regret selling them!
 
Via Ebay I stumbled upon this German shop selling 3-packs of these cars. They say the manufacturer is Train.

They also sell other rolling stock from the same Chinese co. and an R/C steam loco. They say that the quality is patchy and they check and modify every single loco they sell.

Judging by this video review it is necessary...
 
I bought a 'Train' branded RC set off evilBay second hand.. Did not know better at the time!
The engine is a pretty good copy of 99-6001, but flimsy, bendy pipes and hand-rails etc. wheels are all plastic, and the 'gubbins' is in the tender. - Rx, sound etc. (from memory, when I opened it up, shudder!).
Really nasty paxolin circuit board. Components at all angles, and pretty much all discrete components..
There is no weight to the engine, even with the battery pack in it, and it really suffers on small radius track. The RC gear is VERY cheap, and needs to send written notice it wants the RX to do anything. :( ;)

If I could get an LGB tender to push it round, it would pass muster from a distance, but it was not one of my better buys.. The idea was it would give the grandkids something to mess with, but it is not reliable enough for that. Boxed it back up, and have left it since. Not enough hours in the day at present to fiddle.
 
I'm wondering: is Train = Newqida? According to Zennershop many parts of the wagons are interchangeable with LGB. They sell the Piko BR 80 with R/C for little more than the Train loco. I suspect that would be a much better deal.

I guess for the Brits it makes more sense to buy the wagons locally. I just found it intriguing to compare.

Anyway, off to bed. Good night.
 
Beddhist said:
I'm wondering: is Train = Newqida?

Yes, same stuff. I've seen it marketed as Newqida, Train, or BTS (Big Train System). The BTS boxes look very similar style to LGB, almost fooled me once when I was thinking at a show "Who's put Newqida in LGB boxes?"

I've got the Christmas livery train set (loco, 2 coaches, track pack). Actually I've found the loco is not too bad for something to plonk on the line if I can't be bothered to wire up all the DCC system and clean the track. As long as the Tx batteries are fresh it responds reasonably well, but I agree the R/C is a weak point of the model. Perfectly capable of hauling its coaches (and a couple more) round my line (I have R3 minimum so no trouble with tight curves). It can be set to run round on its own without using the Tx, and the battery lasts well enough. I've upgraded the lights to warm-white LEDs all round instead of the blue headlights, and fettled the rods a little to smooth out some clicks on the moldings.

Won't last forever, but cheap and cheerful!
 
ntpntpntp said:
Yes, same stuff. I've seen it marketed as Newqida, Train, or BTS (Big Train System). The BTS boxes look very similar style to LGB, almost fooled me once when I was thinking at a show "Who's put Newqida in LGB boxes?"

I've got the Christmas livery train set (loco, 2 coaches, track pack). Actually I've found the loco is not too bad for something to plonk on the line if I can't be bothered to wire up all the DCC system and clean the track. As long as the Tx batteries are fresh it responds reasonably well, but I agree the R/C is a weak point of the model. Perfectly capable of hauling its coaches (and a couple more) round my line (I have R3 minimum so no trouble with tight curves). It can be set to run round on its own without using the Tx, and the battery lasts well enough. I've upgraded the lights to warm-white LEDs all round instead of the blue headlights, and fettled the rods a little to smooth out some clicks on the moldings.

Won't last forever, but cheap and cheerful!

Also marketed as "Amax"
 
Tim Brien said:
I believe that Hammond's have a technical adviser in Germany (he designed the high arch roof tooling as seen on the HSB Harz red/cream cars). The German market is very large for these cars, but they are quite discerning, so I would think this time around the build quality will be spot on. The first release HSB (Harz) coaches were met with a lot of complaints in Germany and many returned as substandard due poor paint/livery application.

As regards the alteration to existing models, well, considering it may be another four or five years before another production run, then I really could not see any short term changes occurring. The models are correct for at least one livery as I mentioned in a previous posting. This time around I will only need a few coaches as I can prototypically run these with previously purchased 'DR' livery coaches.

I believe that the German technical adviser is the gentleman who complained to me that I was selling the coaches far too cheaply and to increase them substantially. Apparently even two years ago the coaches were priced at Euros 89 each which might have been why so many were returned - they do insist on best quality when buying anything. It does seem that the quality has improved slightly on this run but as I say in my listings 'don't expect LGB quality'.
 
89 Euros is a ridiculous amount even if top quality. That is around $160.00 Aud. A local seller has the original 'TB' release for $99.00 (while an eBay seller has them for $25.00 and cannot sell them). I was buying cases of HSB and other livery 'seconds' (although I could not tell the difference to the first quality models - that is definitely not a criticism of the model) and Hammonds even threw in cut price shipping (less than half normal airmail rate). Those were the days, a nice model landed at my door for around $35.00 Aud (even if I did have to correct a few minor faults).

The newer models as released would cost me around $280.00 Aud landed at my door for a case of four cars, so I am a little slow in purchasing any, although they are excellent quality and in a livery not available from any other manufacturer.
 
Tim Brien said:
... while an eBay seller has them for $25.00 and cannot sell them)...

Tim, I looked on Ebay Oz and couldn't find them. Could you provide a link, please? At that price I might even pay the postage across the ditch.

Cheers,
Peter.
 
Unfortunately, I had the site bookmarked on Internet Explorer 7 as a Favourite and for some reason IE7 fails to load. I racked my memory and finally came up with the store. Alas, it seems he is now down to tankers and boxvans, but the price has risen due postage now included in the price. I have watched his site for several years and he has always had coaches for $25.00 and tankers and boxvans $19.00, but the buyer had to take whatever colour/livery he decided to send (fine for repaints).

I did post a link on this forum about a year ago when a similar request from across the pond was made and the cars were definitely available.

Link to what he has on offer at the present -
http://stores.ebay.com.au/super-hobby-store/Rc-trains-/_i.html?_fsub=1066004012

The store sold its last coach on December 20, 2013 for $35.00, which included free postage (worth around $10.00). Link to last coach sale -
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Model-Train-Passenger-Carriage-Item-5803-/400238527856
 
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