Next Accucraft 7/8ths loco on the drawing board?

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Well, while everyone is busy licking their lips in anticipation of the 7/8ths Quarry Hunslet arriving many folk are already leapfrogging beyond that in their minds as to what might come next.

So, without further ado how would you fancy the Bagnall 2-4-0T Sea Lion from the Groudle Gen railway? Previously considered too small for commercial production in 16mm scale it can be done practically in 7/8ths.

Whilst no doubt there will be lots of quarry railways being built throughout the land not everyone wants to go down that road, and if we are talking about a nice collection of a variety of small live steam locos a preserved railway fits the bill - you can justify putting just about anything on it!

In addition to the regular locos that live on the Groudle Glen railway other small locos have in the past visited for their holidays, and will continue to do so into the future. Therefore if you are building a collection of small 7/8ths locos a Quarry Hunslet sitting next to Sea Lion is perfectly correct.........anyhow, Rule 8 applies so anything you fancy is correct anyway.........

What do you think?

Happy steamings,

John
 
And after Sea Lion...
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Blimy, not sure how big a 7/8ths NG16 would work out at? Somehow I think the Groudle Glen railway civil engineer would have a fit if one turned up as a visiting engine, anyone offering to pay the sea freight to get one here?

It does prove the point just about any combination is prototypical if you are modelling a preserved railway.
 
Sea Lion said:
Somehow I think the Groudle Glen railway civil engineer would have a fit if one turned up as a visiting engine,
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I reckon a few eyebrows would also be raised if Sea Lion were to revisit N. Wales and turn up at Harbour station rostered to take the 11:00 to Caernarfon! :rolf:
 
I'd rather see a proper industrial Bagnall rather than a novelty tourist loco, however pretty Sea Lion is.
 
I'm with NHN and would look at a Wren for the next one..... but (a bit of fun suggestion) how about Taliesin, at scale size.... now that would be a fantastic piece of kit! But I'd guess the price would be a bit steep!

ATB

Steph'
 
I'd like all the above! Particularly the Bagnall saddle tank and a Wren, as well as Sea Lion of course.

The good thing is it's like standing in a sweet shop, there is absolutely no reason why we can't have them all in due course, just not at the same time. So while the sweet shop proprietor is considering stock for the shelves are there any more requests?

Happy steamings,

John
 
I would vote for any WW1 loco with perhaps a little tank live steam loco and a Simplex electric model.

Isn't Townsend hook well over 3' gauge and nearly metre gauge and therefore not appropriate for 7/8 scale?!!!
 
funandtrains said:
Isn't Townsend hook well over 3' gauge and nearly metre gauge and therefore not appropriate for 7/8 scale?!!!
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Although the above is true, its highly likely Fletcher Jennings made engines of that design for 2ft gauge railways as well. I think a general Fletcher Jennings style loco would look good in 7/8th scale regardless. TH is mearly the first engine that came to mind built by that firm.

Jon
 
angr607 said:
funandtrains said:
Isn't Townsend hook well over 3' gauge and nearly metre gauge and therefore not appropriate for 7/8 scale?!!!
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Although the above is true, its highly likely Fletcher Jennings made engines of that design for 2ft gauge railways as well. I think a general Fletcher Jennings style loco would look good in 7/8th scale regardless. TH is mearly the first engine that came to mind built by that firm.

Jon
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I[strike] could [/strike]will be a total steam history geek :bigsmile:and take this thread totally off track and point out that as Fletcher Jennings only made 171 locos in total it is unlikely that even 20 were made of gauge less tha 3' and we know that two of those are on the Tallylyn. It is quite remarkable that at least 9 of them are preserved. Even if you take in the total production of FJ anf Lowca only 225 locos were build before the works burnt down and shut. You can add an additional 20 locos made by Tulk and Ley before they were taken over by FJ.

Having said that I love the old Dorking locos and would love to see them back in steam again that being close to my part of the world. It would be great if 15mm scale models were available.
 
One advantage that the Wren and Bagnall saddle tank has over the other suggestions is relatively low cost. The Groudle Glen engines are very attractive and would look great in the larger scale, but are slightly more complex in wheel arrangement and, of course, have full cabs, both of which drive up the price. Similarly, the K-S Tattoo is one of my absolute favorites, but to create, say, "Stanhope" in 1:13.7 would be a fairly large model (with an appropriately fairly large price). Keep in mind that the quarry Hunslet's mechanism is built from Edrig/Caradoc/Mortimer bits, so there's not a lot of mechanical design or new tooling needed.

Accucraft US recently announced a 7/8"=1' scale 0-4-0T ("Emma"), there might be some cost and time-to-market savings by using parts of the running gear from that design in a UK prototype -- assuming it would look correct.
 
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angr607 said:
Why only sea lion? What about its sister Polar Bear? Or even a Fletcher Jennings like Townsend hook or William Finlay? But then I am slightly biased working on overhaulling PB/TH.............
Jon
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Ah yes, I'd like to see Polar Bear made as well at some stage Jon, it would be nice to be able to model Groudle with the full original fleet of 2 locos. It's just a nice manageable sized railway to model in its entirety, and then add in a few different visiting engines for variety every now and again, Quarry Hunslets, Wrens, Bagnall saddle tanks are all welcome on the layout in my mind. Are you going to bring the real Polar Bear for a holiday back home again when the re-build is finished?

Happy steamings,

John




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funandtrains said:
I would vote for any WW1 loco with perhaps a little tank live steam loco and a Simplex electric model.
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Ah, splendid, a nice 7/8ths Simplex, just what the doctor ordered. Or indeed a Lister, or the Groudle BEV, or Hudson Hunslets perhaps?

But yes a 7/8ths Simplex would be very nice indeed.

Happy steamings,

John
 
Sea Lion said:
funandtrains said:
I would vote for any WW1 loco with perhaps a little tank live steam loco and a Simplex electric model.
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Ah, splendid, a nice 7/8ths Simplex, just what the doctor ordered. Or indeed a Lister, or the Groudle BEV, or Hudson Hunslets perhaps?

But yes a 7/8ths Simplex would be very nice indeed.

Happy steamings,

John
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Like this one??????

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Steph'
 
To be honest, any bagnell would get a yes vote in my book. Or even a Hudson Hunslet especially since I have driven both of the ones from a certain James Bond film. 7/8th scale does seem to give a new diamension to prototypes that can be produced in model form.

Sea Lion said:
Are you going to bring the real Polar Bear for a holiday back home again when the re-build is finished?
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That is the plan I believe along with trips to other railways.

Jon
 
deffo a bagnall sadle tank ,,,, for me in the form of " isabel " which i clambered all over as a kid outside stafford station untill it got too rusty and was hidden away only to be rescued and restored and can be seen at the amerton railway just outside stafford,,,

then a l & b 2-6-2 please,,,,, its only money!!

7/8s,,,, the future has arrived!
 
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