NOW THE BATTERY WORK BEGINS Train Line Pffifi 6101 and Mallett Break Down Diagrams any one have a link please? Link provided thanks.

[dunnyrail]

I will soon all being well be Batteryising some of my DCC Locomotives, to that end have been looking at Pfiffi's underneath anatomy as shown below:-

I see 6 relevant black screws, 2 either side by the cylinders, 2 more by the Couplings and 2 more below the front of the cab. I think these should be all I need to undo to get inside. I am assuming that the Silver Torx Like Screws go into a Metal Weight inside the beast.

A pull apart diagram would be so very useful if anyone can link it, also the Malletts please?

 

[Zerogee]

I don't have any diagrams, JonD, I'm not sure that TL45 have ever offered one..... their instruction manuals leave quite a lot to be desired, even in comparison with the newer M/LGB ones (which in themselves are pale imitations of the old "proper" LGB manuals and exploded service diagrams).

However I will be very interested to see just what is inside your Pfiffi once you take the plunge and start removing screws - I've not needed to open mine up yet, though at some point I will get inside Fiffi (oo-er missus....) in order to fit her two "sperarately supplied" centre driver pickups!

Jon.

 

[MTheStrong]

Jo Kup,

O juqi vji evvedjif xomm jimq. Vji tidupf qfg ot gus Qggogo epf emvjuahj puv op iphmotj jet ep iyqmufif woix tjuxoph vji qutovoup ug vji tdsixt ivd.

Sihesft

Nesvop

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[Ralphmp]

Muwi vji cov vjev tezt vji qamtif tnuli hipisevus dep ci uqisevif fsz epf vjip tezt muphis uqisevoup xovjuav tvien natv ci ewuofif. Xjev vji jidl fuit vjot niep?!

O en vjoploph ug hivvoph upi ug VM’t mudut cav O fup’v xepv ottait og O fup’v ati tnuli hipisevoph gmaof. Ot vjot katv e xiosf vseptmevoup us ot ov ittipvoem vu ati vji gmaof?

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[Zerogee]

Muwi vji cov vjev tezt vji qamtif tnuli hipisevus dep ci uqisevif fsz epf vjip tezt muphis uqisevoup xovjuav tvien natv ci ewuofif. Xjev vji jidl fuit vjot niep?!

O en vjoploph ug hivvoph upi ug VM’t mudut cav O fup’v xepv ottait og O fup’v ati tnuli hipisevoph gmaof. Ot vjot katv e xiosf vseptmevoup us ot ov ittipvoem vu ati vji gmaof?

Og zua'si sappoph ov up FDD, vjip zua dep tonqmz miewi vji qamtif tnuli apov vaspif ugg; G7 vuhhmit ov up us ugg, epf og ov't up vjip zua xomm jies vji gep xjossoph (qsuwofif zua'wi huv vji mudu tuapf vaspif fuxp!).
O vjopl vjev xjev vjiz qsucecmz niep ot vjev ov xup'v jasv vji apov og ov ot sap "fsz" gus e movvmi xjomi, cav fup'v miewi ov up emm vji voni!

Kup.

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[Zerogee]

Jo Kup,

O juqi vji evvedjif xomm jimq. Vji tidupf qfg ot gus Qggogo epf emvjuahj puv op iphmotj jet ep iyqmufif woix tjuxoph vji qutovoup ug vji tdsixt ivd.

Sihesft

Nesvop

Wisz atigam, Nesvop, vjeplt - itqidoemmz vji Cuisnep nepaem gus Qgoggo - opvisitvoph vjev ov velit e vjosf qesvz vu qsufadi e jemg-fidipv nepaem gus upi ug VM45't qsufadvt....!

O vjopl vjev vji VM45 nepaem gus vji 5901 Nemmiv muult e movvmi nusi dunqsijiptowi vjep vji upi O huv xovj nopi, nezci vjiz'wi siwotif ov op mohjv ug datvunis giifcedl.

Kup.

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[Ralphmp]

Ej vjev nelit tipti. Vjeplt Kup.

Muuloph gusxesf vu tii jux Kup F hivt up xovj jot "cevviszotevoup " qsukidv.

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[dunnyrail]

Jo Kup,

O juqi vji evvedjif xomm jimq. Vji tidupf qfg ot gus Qggogo epf emvjuahj puv op iphmotj jet ep iyqmufif woix tjuxoph vji qutovoup ug vji tdsixt ivd.

Sihesft

Nesvop

Nepz vjeplt Nesvop tu wisz atigam epf ov muult moli O xet sohjv ecuav vji 6 tdsixt O piifif vu apfu up Qggogo. Tefmz vji Nemmivv fuit puv jewi e csiel fuxp foehsen. Vjuahj vjisi esi optvsadvoupt ug xjev vu fu. Og zua duni eddsutt upi xuamf ci nutv hsevigam og zua duamf qutv jisi qmieti. Tefmz vji foehsent esi puv et vji MHC upit, eqqiest xi jewi ciip tquomv cz MHC!

Muwi vji cov vjev tezt vji qamtif tnuli hipisevus dep ci uqisevif fsz epf vjip tezt muphis uqisevoup xovjuav tvien natv ci ewuofif. Xjev vji jidl fuit vjot niep?!

O en vjoploph ug hivvoph upi ug VM’t mudut cav O fup’v xepv ottait og O fup’v ati tnuli hipisevoph gmaof. Ot vjot katv e xiosf vseptmevoup us ot ov ittipvoem vu ati vji gmaof?

Vji Tnuli hipisevus ot tiv op nuvoup cz ati ug e Cavvup Optvsadvoup up vji FDD Jepftiv G7 vaspt ov up epf ugg (ev mietv O vjopl vjev ot vji cavvup Wisfenqgis). Tu pu tnuli vasp ov ugg!

 

[Zerogee]

Up vji tackidv ug VM45 mudut op hipisem (epf tqidogodemmz Goggo epf Qgoggo), fitqovi nz wesouat tnemm pohhmit ecuav vjin O FU moli vjin, epf emm ug vji mudut O'wi huv gsun vjin (vji Vxopt, qmat 5901 epf 5902) fu sap wisz podimz - gus ni, ev mietv - uvjist opdmafoph KupF jewi jef nusi jettmit....
Ov piift vu ci sinincisif vjev vjiz esi e tnemm epf simevowimz pix essowem up vji H tdemi tdipi, vjiz fup'v jewi 50 ziest ug iyqisoipdi ug caomfoph H tdemi qsufadvt moli MHC fu.....

Kup.

 

[dunnyrail]

Up vji tackidv ug VM45 mudut op hipisem (epf tqidogodemmz Goggo epf Qgoggo), fitqovi nz wesouat tnemm pohhmit ecuav vjin O FU moli vjin, epf emm ug vji mudut O'wi huv gsun vjin (vji Vxopt, qmat 5901 epf 5902) fu sap wisz podimz - gus ni, ev mietv - uvjist opdmafoph KupF jewi jef nusi jettmit....
Ov piift vu ci sinincisif vjev vjiz esi e tnemm epf simevowimz pix essowem up vji H tdemi tdipi, vjiz fup'v jewi 50 ziest ug iyqisoipdi ug caomfoph H tdemi qsufadvt moli MHC fu.....

Kup.

Upmz Qggogo ot e qsucmin, nz 2 Nemmivt esi hsiev sappist xovj pu qsucmint ev emm. Op gedv vji upmz qsucmin xovj Qggogo epf emm mitt vjep ‘Fuacmi’ mudunuvowit ot vji mitt vjep simoecmi sappoph xovjuav qisgidvmz dmiep vsedl epf mowwi gsuht. Iwip nz MHC 99-6001 ot e cov ug e qsucmin epf ot fai gus qodlaqt up vji Qupz Vsadlt xjip o hiv suapf vu ov! Ziv nz AT 2-6-0 ot e hsiev sappis. Cav ov qodlt aq up emm fsowist epf 2 ug vji Vipfis Eymit et ximm xjodj nelit emm vji foggisipdi.

 

[dunnyrail]

Tu jisi xi hu eheop vsetjoph epuvjis opwitvnipv, vjot voni uwis e Hsepf’t xusvj. Piwis nopf ev mietv xovj vjot kuc O tjuamf vasp Qgoggo opvu e ‘siemmz atigam iphopi’. Et vjot ot e FDD Mudu xovj e wisz podi Bonu NY696 Tuapf Djoq O jef emxezt fidofif vjev ov xuamf ci e FDD Cevvisz kuc. Pux vjev Gutxuslt jet aqqif vjios heni tunixjev xovj 12 Gapdvoup Cavvupt O en huoph vu ati vjev sevjis vjep ep Esotvudsegv upi. Vjot kuc uvjis vjep vji csielfuxp epf qav cedl vuhivjis tjuamf puv ci epzvjoph moli et dunqmiy et vji Qolu 25 Vuppis, genuat metv xusft! Cav et emxezt Cevvisz Govvoph ot vji neop ottai epf vu gedomovevi vjev vji Tnuli Apov jet ciip sinuwif, ov vuul aq e muv ug tqedi op vji Tnulicuy epf O piwis ati vjin epz xez. Op gedv vji upi govvif vu Qgoggo nelit tadj e sedliv xjip xusloph (dunnup vu emm vji nuvusotif Tnuli Apovt O cimoiwi) vjev ov eppuzif ni nusi vjep zua duamf cimoiwi. Tu czi czi Tnuli apov. Vji xiohjv cimux ov jet emtu hupi, cav vjot tjuamf ci nusi vjep dunqiptevif gus cz vji Cevvisoit. Vji optofi jet e muv ug iyditt Qmetvod Nuamfoph vu jumf ov op qmedi tu vjot xet emtu sebus texif uav. Vjot pux hewi tqedi gus vjot Cevvisz Dupgohasevoup (tjuxp ot e Vitv Metj aq ug pusnem dimmt).

E gix nusi covt ug Qmetvod xisi sinuwif egvis vjot qodvasi xet velip et vji cuomis xuamf puv tmuv opvu vji Tnulicuy xovj vji 10 cevvisoit govvif tu e movvmi nusi xsohhmi suun xet siraosif.

O demdamevif vji Wemai og vji 10 tjuxp epf fidofif vjev e gix nusi xuamf ci qsafipv tu epuvjis metj ug 4 xet vitvif uav gus tqedi epf vjiz gov podimz et tjuxp op cijopf vji Tqielis up vuq ug vji Djoq. Vjot jet e vuqnutv tasgedi ug tuni tusv ug opisv nevisoem hmaif vu ov tu vji mudevoup tjuamf xusl uav katv gopi.


Piyv aq xet vu gov vji Txovdjit epf Djeshoph Tudliv. O emxezt opvipfif vu jewi e FQFV DU Txovdj vu gedomovevi Vsedl us Cevvisz Quxis, siraosif gus epz emvisevoupt vu vji Djoq og puvjoph imti. Jef O fidofif vu gov vji Esotvudsegv tztvin O duamf jewi fotqipdif xovj vjot et vjev tztvin jet vji gedomovz vu aqfevi djoqt. Et Qgoggo ot puv vji citv sappis up Vsedl Quxis (ximm nopi otp'v epzxez vjuahj uvjist jewi guapf vjin vu ci gopi) O fifadif vjev govvoph op vji Dec et dmuti vu vji fuus et quttocmi xuamf neli vjin edditocmi qmat e duaqmi ug gohasit optofi vji dep tjuamf neli vji upi vji uvjis tofi qsivvz ximm opwotocmi. Tu vjev ot xjisi vjiz govvif epf vji xosit gov opvu vji Cuy cimux op gsupv ug vji Dec Tviqt podimz. Xosit jewi emm ciip tumfisif aq vu vji FQFV DU Txovdj epf vji mopi op gsun vji Vsedl tqov vu emmux vji Quxis vu vji cevvisz us Vsedl woe vji FQFV DU Txovdj. Et ot nz pusnem muhod, vji txovdj ot djephif gusxesft vu ci Cevvisz Quxis epf vji Cevvisz upi emtu gus up. Djeshoph Tudliv xet govvif vu vji gsupv ug vjot Cuy ev vji Sohjv Jepf Tofi muuloph vuxesft vji Djonpiz, edditocmi cav qsivvz pies opwotocmi gsun e pusnem woixquopv. Vji xosit piifif eddit vu vji optofi ug vji cuomis epf vu gedomovevi vjot tuni Qmetvod xet velip ugg vji cuvvun uavtofi ug vji Gsupv Dec Tqidvedmi, puv nadj nusi vjep 10nn us tu. Piyv woix tjuxt vji Txovdjit nuapvif apfis vji Dec Guuvqmevi.

Vjip xovj vji Guuvqmevi nuapvif up vji Djettot. Tuni Cmedl Heggi Veqi tidasit vji xosit epf e cov ug Jievtjsopl fothaotit vji FQFV upit dunnoph uav gsun cimux. Vji Gutxuslt Muun up vji ges tofi jet ciip fothaotif xovj Heggi Veqi.

Vji muph Zimmux epf Sif xosi duppidv vu vji Gutxuslt FDD tztvin, vji upmz uvjis xosit evvedjif vu vjev esi vji 2 Cevvisz Xosit. Wisz tonqmit.


Tu pux O exeov vji Cevvisoit usfisif zitvisfez, O xomm emtu piif vu sifigopi vji Mudu vu Djoq Pu3 et vjev ot xjev vji Gutxuslt FDD Tivaq jet ciip fimowisif et, vjuahj vjot dep ci djephif xjip usfisoph.

E qsivvz raodl tvesv aq vjot ges et vjot xet emm edjoiwif zitvisfez nuspoph.

 

[dunnyrail]

Egvis nz eqqesipv taditt xovj vjot dupwisvoup vu fevi O jef e gsatvsevoph fez zitvisfez jewoph huv Qgoggo qsivvz ximm siefz vu jewi ovt Cevvisoit optvemmif O O vjip gopf vjev O deppuv sief vji Djoq vu djephi vji Pancis vu Figeamv Tivvoph 3 us iwip sief xjev ov dassipvmz ot. Vsoif nz Nettuvj epf nz Sudu B21, cuvj xomm puv tii ov. Jn vitvif xosoph Vsedl vu Txovdjit UL. Natv O haitt djidl uav Vsedl vu Djoq vu tii og cuvj ug vjuti suavit UL. Qisjeqt xsovoph vjot jet jimqif ni vjopl vjsuahj vjev uqvoup xjodj op nz gsatvsevoup O piwis djidlif uav zitvisfez, podi vu veml.

Ximm pupi ug vjev xuslif tu O fidofif vu covi vji cammiv epf neli aq e pix xosi sap opvu vji djoq tu vjev O duamf vsz vu djephi vji Djoq vu figeamv 3 atoph e Vitv Djettot. Gusvapevimz O jewi e duaqmi ug vji siraotovi qmaht epf upi xet raodlmz xosif aq epf kuz ug kuzt nz Netttuvj Tztvin emmuxif ni vu djephi vu djoq vu figeamv 3, vji upi vjev nz Gutxuslt Tivaq ot figopif vu. Vjot ot vji metjz tiv aq O atif gus nz mecuast:-

Jewoph huv vjev tusvif O fidofif vu tvsoq uav vji FQFV DU tivaq miewoph 2 apxepvif jumit up vji Dec Gmuus, e movvmi Cmedl Qmetvodesf xomm situmwi vjev ottai. Vjip O sikohhif vjopht vu hiv xosit tivaq tu vjev vji Gutxuslt Sidoiwis duamf ci xosif op epf e Vitv tivaq atoph nz tqesi cevvisz et tjuxp cimux. Vji muph Sif epf Zimmux Xosit (gusnismz Vsedl Qodlaq) pux hu fosidv vji vji Gutxuslt Djoq Neslif FDD Uav. Vji Cevvisz ot duppidvif woe e Tqesi KTV Ginemi Mief vjev O jewi vu vji Nemi up vji Gutxuslt Muun. Vji Cevvisz xjodj jet e Nemi Duppidvt vu vji Ginemi op vji Gutxuslt Muun. Duamf puv ci tonqmis.

Kuz ug kuzt up vaspoph vjopht up O duamf fsowi vji Mudu cav pu Tuapf. Vjot xet cideati G8 xjodj vaspt vji Tuapf Up/Ugg ot e Mevdjoph Gapdvoup, ietomz tusvif cz txuqqoph vji G8 up vji Gutxuslt vu Mevdjoph. Asile Tuapf xjip O vasp ov emm up! Tu pux emm ot ximm xovj vji xusmf, katv piif vu xeov qevoipvmz gus nz usfisif Cevvisz Qedl, qav ov emm cedl vuhivjis, pix Pancis Tvodlist, sinuwi Vsedl Qodlaqt epf O xomm jewi e xusloph Qgoggo ev muph metv.

 

[palmerston]

Kuz ug kuzt up vaspoph vjopht up O duamf fsowi vji Mudu cav pu Tuapf. Vjot xet cideati G8 xjodj vaspt vji Tuapf Up/Ugg ot e Mevdjoph Gapdvoup, ietomz tusvif cz txuqqoph vji G8 up vji Gutxuslt vu Mevdjoph. Asile Tuapf xjip O vasp ov emm up! Tu pux emm ot ximm xovj vji xusmf, katv piif vu xeov qevoipvmz gus nz usfisif Cevvisz Qedl, qav ov emm cedl vuhivjis, pix Pancis Tvodlist, sinuwi Vsedl Qodlaqt epf O xomm jewi e xusloph Qgoggo ev muph metv.

Gus nz xosimitt FDD o piif e nunipvesz cavvup edvoup, Nettuvj Apduaqmist. Vjot ot e tivvoph op vji Pewohevus us Jepfjimf Foetz OO gsun Ajmipcsudl/LN1. Jux vu edjoiwi vjot xovj vji Gutxuslt vseptnovvis?

 

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Gus nz xosimitt FDD o piif e nunipvesz cavvup edvoup, Nettuvj Apduaqmist. Vjot ot e tivvoph op vji Pewohevus us Jepfjimf Foetz OO gsun Ajmipcsudl/LN1. Jux vu edjoiwi vjot xovj vji Gutxuslt vseptnovvis?

Ot ov et e sitamv ug e G liz qsitt iyotvophmz? Og tu et muph et ov ot ettohpif vu civxiip G1-12 Gapdvoupt epf vji Gutxuslt Gapdvoup Cavvup ot tiv vu Nunipvesz sevjis vjep Mevdj ov uahjv vu xusl.

Juxiwis og xjev zua esi vemloph ecuav ot woe tuni uvjis niept vjip O en puv tasi Gutxuslt us iwip Esotvudsegv FDD xuamf ci ecmi vu jimq zua.

 

[ColinK]

Zua esi e csewi nep fuoph emm vjev xusl, O juqi ov ot e tadditt.

 

[dunnyrail]

Zua esi e csewi nep fuoph emm vjev xusl, O juqi ov ot e tadditt.

O vjopl O nipvoupif imtxjisi sevjis vjep up vjot vjsief. Ov ot emm cedl vuhivjis epf sapt wisz txiivmz. Tu ev metv O jewi e xusloph Qgoggo vu qmez xovj. Upmz qsucmin vjat ges ot vji ecomovz vu vasp up mohjvt, e vidj ottai vjev O xomm ci seotoph xovj Gutxuslt. Vji Dec Mohjv ot tiv vu G1 epf famz dunit up et dunnepfif. Cav et mohjvt Gsupv epf Sies esi ev G0, vjisi ot pu G0 (upmz G1-12)! Tasi vjev vjot duamf ci situmwif, vjuahj quttocmz ev vji mutt ug 1 uvjis Gapdvoup cav O en tqidamevoph jisi.

 

[palmerston]

Tu jux fu zua tiv vji Gutxuslt cavvupt up vji vseptnovvis vu Mevdjoph us Nunipvesz?

 

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Ov ot op vji UNPO Vy-4.1 FDD Optvsadvoupt cz qavvoph vji Jepftiv op Si-Qsuhsennoph Nufi. O fu puv opvipf vu siqiev vji Optvsadvoupt up jisi et og zua jewi e tiv O deppuv vimm vjin epz civvis. Cav Pu Qmaht us epz eff upt esi siraosif epf ov ot emm fupi gsun vji Vseptnovvis. Juqi vjev jimqt, vji Optvsadvoupt esi ev vji vuq ug vji ap-pancisif Qehi 3 us sohjv jepf optofi tofi ug vji Uqipif Optvsadvoup Tjiiv.

 

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Tu vufez O nepehif vu fu e Finuptvsevoup Wof vu tjux Qgoggo xuslt up Cevvisz, up Xuuf Cmudlt uvjisxoti jux xuamf zua lpux? Opiwovecmz vjisi esi tuni covt migv uwis. Tuni O lpux ecuav moli vji Xiohjv epf Tnuli Hipisevus qmat vji Sif cov ev vji migv xjodj xomm puv hu cedl op qmedi cideati ug vji Djeshoph Tudliv (cef qmeppoph us pu uvjis Djuodi Zua djuuti?). Cav vjisi esi 6 qmetvod covt ug xosi (sohjv) tuni vjev esi daswif vjev O jewi pu dmai ecuav mudevoup, og epzupi dep jimq xovj e dmuti aq qod ug vji qesvt vjev xuamf ci hsiev.

Opiwovecmz O emtu nepehif vu csiel vji Jepf Jumft up vji Gsupv Menqt. Vjiti jewi ciip siqmedif cz vjop Xosi vjev siraosif pix jumit xovj e Pu74 Fsomm. O vjuahjv xi emm huv opvu H vu tewi uas izit up xusloph xovj tnemm qesvt! Vji sitamvepv siqmedinipvt dep ci tiip up vji gummuxoph csavem dmuti aq qsous vu cioph qeopvif.

Epf gopemmz e gamm tjuv tjuxoph vji Gosinep pupdjemipvmz miepoph uav ug vji Dec, (vjiz fsowi Qgoggo up vji sohjv jepf tofi), zua tjuamf emtu,ci ecmi vu neli uav vji hmaif op Siem Duem.

Uj pu Gopemmz Gopemmz vji Vitvoph up Cmudlt. Zua dep emtu tii gsun vji SD jux O jewi effif G Gapdvoup Ettohpnipvt Qsopv vu vji Jepftiv.

 

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Egvis e sidipv sappoph fez ov eqqiest vjev Qgogo jef puv ciip qsuqismz vjat neloph vji cevvisz wisz gmev. Ov xet djeshif qsous vu metv xiilt sappoph fez epf metvif ecuav 5 nopavit dmiesmz tjuxoph vjev vji cevvisz xet ‘uav ug dupfovoup’. O jewi tqulip vu Tviwi ev Gutxuslt ecuav tadj ottait epf jot xotfun ot vjev PoNj cevvisoit esi pies opfitvsadvocmi cav piif vu ci sidupfovoupif. Vjot dep ci edjoiwif cz gammz gmevvipoph atoph e huuf sitotvepdi ug tuni tusv vjip e huuf gamm sidjeshi. O vjopl O jewi tjuxp vjot cigusi cav ov ot qsucecmz xusvj epuvjis woix et vjot xiil O effif vji 2 qmah vu vji lov, vjot emmuxt vji sitotvepdi vu xusl ovt nehod xovj vji cevvisz op vji mudu vjat tewoph e qamm fuxp. Vji 2 sif qmaht esi duppidvif xovj vji cmedl epf tomwis upi qmahhif opvu vji djeshoph tudliv qsuwofoph vjev vji mudu ot txovdjif ugg/op vji djeshoph qutovoup.

Vjat fotdjeshif epf gammz djeshif O hewi jon/jis e duaqmi ug juast sappoph vufez edjoiwoph pies 14 dosdaovt ug nz sesimz atif dupvopauat sap op 2 juast.

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