OcCre tram Lisboa

[wrighizilla]

Hello everyone, after the positive experience with Soller tram I decide to start another 1/24 kit.

I chose the Lisbon tram, here the kit specifications

lisboa | Kreativity World

modellino da costruire lisboa occrecod: occ_53005scala 1:24l 360mm/h 220mm/w 100mmlo storico tram lisboa si arrampica attraverso le stradine di l

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Box Contents.

Wooden boards

Metal castings

Photographic instructions and text

Stickers, imitation leather for seats and clear plastic for glass.

Glass windows mask and wood stripes

I would like to build this beautiful tram with many details, working lights and motorization

I still haven't decided how to make the electric motor, there is an optional kit 55013 for tramways

motorization kit for trams | Kreativity World

Acquista online l'articolo MOTORIZATION KIT FOR TRAMS (DYNAMIC) ( OcCre - 55013 ) su Kreativity World, il sito di riferimento per appassionati di modellismo.

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but I could also build the motor by hand like I already did for the tram de Soller.. it work good.
however, I should work wheels on the lathe making them full because casting wheels are only for static.
in any case I will think about the motorbox only at build-log end.

The kit has a medium difficulty assembly, many details left basic and simplified so that everyone can complete it
I will try to open the windows and doors, I would like to light up the sign on the roof and of course all the tram lights.

 

[wrighizilla]

Construction start from floor and seats..

the seat backs could move and work quite well, but to have a neat look I preferred to glue them.

 

[wrighizilla]

I use real glass to make windows, I don't like polycarbonate and in the end it takes me almost less time to cut glass than plastic.
I prepared a frame to cut the glass.

this side for curve

upper for streight

somethimes glass need to be trimmed with fine sand paper

or need to add some thin wood stripes because my microscope glass are 1mm narrow

Openable windows is a patient work..

I use 1mm square hard wood and 2x1mm for front triangles

 

[wrighizilla]

I added sun shade

Everything glued

 

[idlemarvel]

Very good start, you are a fine craftsman. I would never have thought of using real glass. I'm sure you're right about it being easier to cut than polycarbonate.

 

[wrighizilla]

Very thin polycarbonate can be cut with scissors but it is difficult to glue straight, the risk is to have reflections that make the glass look crooked or deformed.
moreover the polycarbonate is difficult to clean when the assembly is completed, it is easily scratched and dulls losing transparency ..

the glass sticks well, cuts quickly and is cleaned with a razor blade without being scratched, is always flat and straight, in essence you can see immediately that it is real glass

I use 1.5mm thick laboratory glass slides for microscopes and a decent Silberschnitt 2000 glass cutter
it's easier to learn how to cut glass by trying directly rather than explaining how to do it , but trust me ... it's easy

 

[Paul M]

Another fine piece of modelling! Looking forward to seeing the images as you progress

 

[Steve]

Looking forward to further updates looks brilliant

 

[JimmyB]

Just brilliant, too good to even aspire to, for me any way

 

[wrighizilla]

Actually it depends on how you decide to build the kit ..
If you follow the instructions, everything is simpler but less detailed.
for example, you see that the walls are only painted in wood color and the windows are simply glued together with a sheet of transparent plastic.

In my model build I try to get the most from a kit designed to be accessible to everyone.

this does not mean that it is simple but anyone who wants to try it could do it.
it also costs around 100 euros, costs I can afford for a model that needs at least not less than a month to be built.

I don't know other companies that produce model railways in assembly metal-wood kits on a scale of 1 or similar LGB.
if you know something please let me know.
I love to craft the models and make them go on my railway, so I find that the Occre models company now is still quite unique.

 

[Paul M]

There's lots of manufacturers of wooden kits over here, Swift 16, IP Engineering and of course Brandbright to name a very small sample. As kits go there great, but there's obviously plenty of scope for improvement

 

[wrighizilla]

thank you! I only know Brandbright but what I like is too expensive.

I also looked at other companies and there is something interesting, if you know others please let me know.

I like Occre because it has these particular models at the right prices, it is also true that here in Italy some companies are more easily found than others, so I ask you to know other brands that maybe here in my country are unknown.

The Italian company Amati produces a beautiful Orient Express wagon in scale 1 (1/32 like the Occre trains) but it costs a salary, a beautiful kit for the few who know how to build it and very few who can pay for it.

These trams, on the other hand, are on a scale of 1/24 almost a lgb or at least harmonize very well with G scale trains.


Anyway.. on lisbona tram I started fronts..

Not easy collimate wood with metal and find space for led lights..

After a gross filling I finish grouting smoothing with cianoacrilate and talcum..

Paint and led lights

I finish covering inside then I fix all fittings

Now I'm study how to do openable doors.. solution maybe can be in ripstop hinges.

 

[maxi-model]

Fantastic work. I like the way you look to make improvements to the original kit of parts supplied by OcCre. Very effective, your skills are unsurpassed. I have built one of their products, the Madrid tram. It took me 9 years on and off. 1 is enough for me

With regards to other makes of laser cut wood and metal model railway kit makers. In the UK we have quite a few "artisan" producers of these in the larger scales. What sort of subject matter are you interested in ? The only problem might be relative cost.

Unlike OcCre which are large volume produced products, with the benefit of lower price due to the number of kits produced, the UK manufacturers use this method of construction as a means to make it practical to produce models of more limited interest subjects at reasonable cost. As a result there are very few metal accessories supplied - it is cheap to cut wood to order from a computer file, its expensive to have to make physical masters for metal parts and have to make a minimum number of these parts to make any economical sense. Probably why 3D printing is seen to offer such exciting opportunities in this area on model origination and production.

Here in the UK these types of kits are quite prevalent in the 16 mm scale (1:19.3) and the same subjects are usually available for both 45 mm and 32 mm gauge use. The models are mostly of rolling stock though some loco kits are available using wood for their structures. They do not have the level of fine and metal detail that OcCre include but I would have no doubt you would be able to provide that with your skills. Search for these names - Yatton, Resurgam, IP Engineering, Bowaters, These are some examples of 16 mm scale providers who's products I am familiar with. Max

 

[Rhinochugger]

thank you! I only know Brandbright but what I like is too expensive.

I also looked at other companies and there is something interesting, if you know others please let me know.

I like Occre because it has these particular models at the right prices, it is also true that here in Italy some companies are more easily found than others, so I ask you to know other brands that maybe here in my country are unknown.

The Italian company Amati produces a beautiful Orient Express wagon in scale 1 (1/32 like the Occre trains) but it costs a salary, a beautiful kit for the few who know how to build it and very few who can pay for it.

These trams, on the other hand, are on a scale of 1/24 almost a lgb or at least harmonize very well with G scale trains.


Anyway.. on lisbona tram I started fronts..

Not easy collimate wood with metal and find space for led lights..

After a gross filling I finish grouting smoothing with cianoacrilate and talcum..

Paint and led lights

I finish covering inside then I fix all fittings

Now I'm study how to do openable doors.. solution maybe can be in ripstop hinges.

That method of filling is a new one on me - but very effective

 

[wrighizilla]

thank you for sharing these companies that I didn't know .. I always like to know new rail products.

I have a massive update on Lisbona tram..

All part fixed

How I bend wet wood stripes

last 4 led light and insigna connector pin

Roof covered

The tram number insigna is made with 2 led and a resistor, I have milled the wood block included in the kit..

I'm searching for an OcCre tram motor unit 55013 but is not easy to find..
so.. I do it by myself just to test the tram on my railway.
as soon I fit an occre motor unit with spoke wheels I will change my temporary motor.

For first I have made a worm gear

then I have made alluminium wheels with delrin bushings and wood frame

work not bad on my railway.. this motor unit I would like to recycle it as to make a simple cleaner locomotive

back on Lisbona tram, I finish the underside, you see the diode bridge and all led are now connected

Today many small retouching

 

[Paul M]

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[dunnyrail]

Superb job of those curved ends. A very tricky part to achieve but the damp and Soldering Iron job is masterful.

 

[Rhinochugger]

How I bend wet wood stripes

Now that is very clever

 

[wrighizilla]

Now that is very clever

Is a very easy way.. use a soldering not too hot otherwise it mark the wood.
another easy way is bend wet stripes directly on soldering, I fix it in a bench vise then I bend the wood using the hot curved surface as a support.
If curve is not enough wet 5 min. stripes again and repeat.. do not force too much and pay attention to the fingers

At last you can bend with gas pen and a can or something similar..

I use this way when I need many wood curves all the same..

 

[wrighizilla]

I mounted all details on the roof