Piko Navigator "RC Disabled" message ?

I have been using two of these 3 way adaptor's. This shows the original set up with the Central station before I tried connecting the Booster . The two bottom two leads are to the Central Station and the Feed from the Feedback Decoder the top lead comes from the Piko R/C sender unit. This system works fine with R/C except sometimes running several trains the Central Station Trips Out witch I think means it is Overloaded. That's the reason I had decided to add the Booster. The bottom photo shows the added 3 way Adaptor. with the added 6 wire cable connected to the Central Station and another 6 wire cable connected to the Booster . The top cable of the first photo go's the R/C Sender . The top cable of the bottom photo is the Cable that was connected to the Central Station Originally . I know this may seem complicated but this set up works when I tether the Navigator to the R/C sender Cable. Thanks for your interest and input.
 

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Telephone-style splitters may well not have all pins wired through..

However, (I am sure this is not he case..)
If the Navigator works tethered, but not wireless, are the batteries good in the Navigator?

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Have you tried your new wiring arrangement without the booster? - I assume you have gapped the rails for a separate power-district for the booster? - Sorry, obvious but need to rule everything out.
 
Have you tried it like this... (SPLT = the PIKO slitter)
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PhilP said:
Telephone-style splitters may well not have all pins wired through..

However, (I am sure this is not he case..)
If the Navigator works tethered, but not wireless, are the batteries good in the Navigator?

<missed above post before posting..>

Have you tried your new wiring arrangement without the booster? - I assume you have gapped the rails for a separate power-district for the booster? - Sorry, obvious but need to rule everything out.
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Have tried with out the Booster connect
PhilP said:
Telephone-style splitters may well not have all pins wired through..

However, (I am sure this is not he case..)
If the Navigator works tethered, but not wireless, are the batteries good in the Navigator?

<missed above post before posting..>

Have you tried your new wiring arrangement without the booster? - I assume you have gapped the rails for a separate power-district for the booster? - Sorry, obvious but need to rule everyth
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PhilP said:
Telephone-style splitters may well not have all pins wired through..

However, (I am sure this is not he case..)
If the Navigator works tethered, but not wireless, are the batteries good in the Navigator?

<missed above post before posting..>

Have you tried your new wiring arrangement without the booster? - I assume you have gapped the rails for a separate power-district for the booster? - Sorry, obvious but need to rule everything out.
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Yes have tried with out the Booster connected . The R/C works fine with the Central Station side of the Lay Out with out the booster connected. A member in our Railway Club said something about the Feedback Decoder having a compromising ID address. Don't know exactly what he means . Will try disconnecting the Feedback Decoder from the set up. I also bought a Massoth 8138001 Adaptor.
When I tried to use this the Booster Green light just blinks which means it is not receiving information from the central Station. All my Cables have been tested by my brother who is an Electrician and dose Data cabling . So they are OK and work with the Navigator tethered.
 

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muns said:
Have you tried it like this... (SPLT = the PIKO slitter)
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Will try it this way . Have tried it with the Massoth 8138001 Adaptor with all cables going to the Adaptor, the Adaptor shows a Red LED Light on it which would mean it is receiving information , but the Green Light on the Booster blinks which indicates that it is not receiving information from the Central Station. A friend from my train club said something about the Feedback Decoder having a Comprising ID address, don't know exactly what he means. Am going to try the system with the Feedback Decoder disconnected in the Mix.
Thanks Again for you Help
 
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frankando12 said:
Will try it this way . Have tried it with the Massoth 8138001 Adaptor with all cables going to the Adaptor, the Adaptor shows a Red LED Light on it which would mean it is receiving information , but the Green Light on the Booster blinks which indicates that it is not receiving information from the Central Station. A friend from my train club said something about the Feedback Decoder having a Comprising ID address, don't know exactly what he means. Am going to try the system with the Feedback Decoder disconnected in the Mix.
Thanks Again for you Help
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Just disconnected the feedback decoder from the system and R/C is all OK . Now I have to work out how to change the ID of the Feedback Decoder. Do not really know how this will go .

Any help would be Appreciated Thanks Again.
 
PhilP said:
Link to manual..

Massoth WIKI | 8170001 Feedback Module

Are you definitely using the 'Master' bus socket?
CV 2 (Id number) must be set between 11 and 20 for DIMAX. - Default is 11, but if the unit has been used before..
Id numbers should not be used more than once.
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Thanks For that Philip that could be my problem . I had another Feedback Module in the system when my old Booster went bad and I had to replace the Booster and the Feedback Module and a Switch Decoder . I never changed the ID of the new Module when I installed it as it worked OK with just the Central Station I had at the time . Another thing I find, I could not program the Module with my Piko Central Station I had to use a 12v NCE Power Cab that I use on a HO system, seems there must be a problem with the higher Voltage on the Piko System.

Thanks for your Help
 
Also make sure CV1 = 0 to ensure that the feedback module is using the Dimax protocol and not the LGB protocol.
 
muns said:
Also make sure CV1 = 0 to ensure that the feedback module is using the Dimax protocol and not the LGB protocol.
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muns said:
Also make sure CV1 = 0 to ensure that the feedback module is using the Dimax protocol and not the LGB protocol.
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All seem to be working set CV2 to 12 on the Feedback module CV1 was set to 0. Found that I had to restart the Navigator before every thing would work but once I did that the R/C worked . Thanks For all your help. Frank
 
frankando12 said:
All seem to be working set CV2 to 12 on the Feedback module CV1 was set to 0. Found that I had to restart the Navigator before every thing would work but once I did that the R/C worked . Thanks For all your help. Frank
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