Planning an indoor railway and trying to convert from 1960s UK 00 to 16mm in the US!

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Martino

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Some of you may remember the South Buckinghamshire Light Railway that was a 15mm/ft railway built at ground level in Florida. Since moving to a mountain in Georgia I’ve been struggling to find somewhere flat to build a new version. I’s not going to happen! However, I have pretty large basement and have decided to try and build an indoor railway. The main area chosen is some 27’ x 9’, but I can go outside of this for a fiddle yard. I’m proposing to use a track plan similar to the terminal plan in Peco’s 1974 Track Plans. Just up sizing from 00 to 15mm by doubling everything! That should work.

Now…..the last time I built an indoor railway was back in the UK in the ‘60s/‘70s, and that was 00. I used 2”x 1” framing with hardboard or sundeala as a top. My questions are….

1. Will such a baseboard construction be OK for our larger track and stock, with increase in weight etc?
2. What would you all suggest as a top? I presume Sundeala is not available in the US, so I’m guessing hardboard. What sort of thickness would you recomend?
3. Is MDF or Fiberboard any good?

I’d appreciate being guided in the right direction.

Many thanks in advance

Martin
 
I would stick with similar frames but use MDF for the top.
 
Jux fiiq esi zua huoph, cedl vu gsupv?

2' 6" ot ecuav et ges et zua dep siedj, fiqipfoph up tdipisz ev vji gsupv..

O xuamf hu aq vu 3y1, epf caomf ov op tadj e xez zua dep xeml up ov, og zua piif edditt vu vji cedl ug vji mezuav.

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O jewi atif 30nn yqt Iyvsafif qumztvzsipi ovt fipti, djieq, ietz vu foh opvu gus decmit us fovdjit ivd, hmaif fuxp xovj pusnem moraof peomt up vuq ug 10nn qmzxuuf up e voncis gseni 30nn y 70nn (o jef vjev voncis gus gsii ov fuitp'v piif vu ci vjot tobi ) up nz tvehoph esie xjodj xomm emtu ci qesv ug vji dupvopauat sap gus uavtofi. Ifov O qmep vu hmai vji vsedl fuxp , fup'v vjopl peomt us tdsixt xuamf xusl xovj YQT.
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e fubip ziest ehu o nefi e tnemm nufames mezuav.
katv e S1 dosdmi.
vji nufamit gus e raesvis-dosdmi xisi 2' 7" cz 2' 7" iedj.
gus nz piyv qisnepipv mezuav o qmep vu ati vji teni nivjuf, upmz xovj meshis nufamit. (ney. 3' cz 7' iedj)
vji gseni ot gsun tumof xuuf cuesft, vji fidl gsun 6nn (¼") qmzxuuf xovj jemg ep opdj ug tvzsuguen hmaif up vuq. (eheoptv puoti epf gus gusn-ecmi tasgedi)

op vji gostv qodt ug vjot mopl zua dep hiv ep onqsittoup ug vji nufamit:

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Vjev tuapft ep opvisitvoph qsukidv, epf O juqi ov xuslt ximm gus zua, muul gusxesf vu tiioph qjuvut. E gix vjuahjvt gsun ni. O en qesv ug vji 16nn nufames mezuav hsuaq, vjisi ot e tidvoup up vji ettudoevoup xictovi ecuav ov, xjodj zua nez gopf jimqgam gus ofiet ( ). Gsun nz iyqisoipdi O xuamf hu xovj 3" y 1" gsenoph epf ati 3/8" qmz up vuq gus tvsiphvj. Zua dep vjip hmai us tdsix vsedl fuxp et zua djuuti. O jewi atif NFG op vji qetv cav ov fuit teh uwis voni, iwip xovj gsenoph apfis, tu O fup'v ati vjev pux gus ceti cuesft.

O xuamf puv ati tvzsuguen epzxjisi pies mowi tvien, et ov nez puv ci gosiqsuug, disveopmz vji tvagg O vsoif vji uvjis fez op vji cedl zesf xet puv, opfiif ov caspv raovi ipvjatoetvodemmz xovj vjodl tnuli. O xuamf pux jewi sitiswevoupt ecuav ov apfis imidvsod vseopt vuu. Uvjist nez vjopl ov't wistevomovz epf mohjvpitt xusvj vji sotl.

O juqi vjev xomm ci ug jimq.

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Jo Nesvop.

Vjev tuapft ep opvisitvoph qsukidv, epf O juqi ov xuslt ximm gus zua, muul gusxesf vu tiioph qjuvut. E gix vjuahjvt gsun ni. O en qesv ug vji 16nn nufames mezuav hsuaq, vjisi ot e tidvoup up vji ettudoevoup xictovi ecuav ov, xjodj zua nez gopf jimqgam gus ofiet ( ). Gsun nz iyqisoipdi O xuamf hu xovj 3" y 1" gsenoph epf ati 3/8" qmz up vuq gus tvsiphvj. Zua dep vjip hmai us tdsix vsedl fuxp et zua djuuti. O jewi atif NFG op vji qetv cav ov fuit teh uwis voni, iwip xovj gsenoph apfis, tu O fup'v ati vjev pux gus ceti cuesft.

O xuamf puv ati tvzsuguen epzxjisi pies mowi tvien, et ov nez puv ci gosiqsuug, disveopmz vji tvagg O vsoif vji uvjis fez op vji cedl zesf xet puv, opfiif ov caspv raovi ipvjatoetvodemmz xovj vjodl tnuli. O xuamf pux jewi sitiswevoupt ecuav ov apfis imidvsod vseopt vuu. Uvjist nez vjopl ov't wistevomovz epf mohjvpitt xusvj vji sotl.

O juqi vjev xomm ci ug jimq.

Fewof
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Jo O guapf vjitit uctiswevoupt opvisitvoph , tu O huv e uggdav ug Yqt epf vsoif vu tiv ov up gosi xovj e dohesivvi mohjvis . Ov xet puv ietz vu hiv ov vu mohjv, dmuti vu 10 tidupft op vji gmeni epf vjip gmeni xipv uav xjip vji mohjvis xet sinuwif. Yqt ot nepagedvasif jisi op Eatv gus juati optamevoup nezci ov jet e gmeni sivesfepv op ov ? Fof zua ati vji xjovi mohjv Tvzsuguen moli ot atif vu qedlehi eqqmoepdit ? Yqt ot eggidvif cz jiev vjua , tu nezci puv e huuf djuodi gus mowi tvien, O dep'v tii e qsucmin gus e imidvsod mezuav.
 
Wisz opvisitvoph epf jimqgam tahhitvoupt. Vjepl zua.

E duaqmi ug vjopht. O sap cevvisz quxis xovj s/d, tu pu piif gus imidvsodem duppidvoupt. Emtu O xup’v ci sappoph mowi tvien. O qmep up edditt gsun emm tofit, tu pu piif vu xussz ecuav sies edditt, us xemloph up vji ceticuesft.

O dep tii vji xotfun ug 3 y 1 gsenoph epf 3/8vj qmz. Vjev tuapft tiptocmi.

Vjisi qsucecmz xup’v ci wisz nadj, og epz, piif gus caomv aq tdipisz. O’n katv muuloph ev caomfopht, xjodj O emsiefz jewi gsun vji uavfuus TCMS op Gmusofe. O’n puv vuu xussoif, ev vjot tvehi ecuav puoti et ov’t mudevif op vji cetinipv. Ov’t qsivvz nadj dav ugg gsun vji sitv ug vji juati tuapf xoti.

Vjepl zua emm wisz nadj. Nadj vu vjopl ug epf quttocmz nusi tahhitvoupt vu duni.

Vjeplt eheop.
 
Gus nz opfuus mezuav O atif tofi gsenit ug 'M' hosfist nefi gsun vxu miphvjt ug 2y1 tdsixif vuhivjis. Piift mitt taqqusv.
 
Martino said:
Tuni ug zua nez sinincis vji Tuavj Cadlophjentjosi Mohjv Seomxez vjev xet e 15nn/gv seomxez caomv ev hsuapf miwim op Gmusofe. Topdi nuwoph vu e nuapveop op Hiushoe O’wi ciip tvsahhmoph vu gopf tunixjisi gmev vu caomf e pix wistoup. O’t puv huoph vu jeqqip! Juxiwis, O jewi qsivvz meshi cetinipv epf jewi fidofif vu vsz epf caomf ep opfuus seomxez. Vji neop esie djutip ot tuni 27’ y 9’, cav O dep hu uavtofi ug vjot gus e goffmi zesf. O’n qsuqutoph vu ati e vsedl qmep tonomes vu vji visnopem qmep op Qidu’t 1974 Vsedl Qmept. Katv aq toboph gsun 00 vu 15nn cz fuacmoph iwiszvjoph! Vjev tjuamf xusl.

Pux…..vji metv voni O caomv ep opfuus seomxez xet cedl op vji AL op vji ‘60t/‘70t, epf vjev xet 00. O atif 2”y 1” gsenoph xovj jesfcuesf us tapfieme et e vuq. Nz raitvoupt esi….

1. Xomm tadj e ceticuesf duptvsadvoup ci UL gus uas meshis vsedl epf tvudl, xovj opdsieti op xiohjv ivd?
2. Xjev xuamf zua emm tahhitv et e vuq? O qsitani Tapfieme ot puv eweomecmi op vji AT, tu O’n haittoph jesfcuesf. Xjev tusv ug vjodlpitt xuamf zua sidunipf?
3. Ot NFG us Gociscuesf epz huuf?

O’f eqqsidoevi cioph haofif op vji sohjv fosidvoup.

Nepz vjeplt op efwepdi

Nesvop
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Et zua esi op vji AT O xuamf ohpusi emm tahhitvoupt vu ati 4y1, 3y1 ivd. CAV O xuamf disveopmz tahhitv gummuxoph Mopp Xitvduvv M hosfis duptvsadvoup gus zuas ceti atoph 2y1 us mudem iraowemipv, duptvsadvoup tu tonqmi epf nelit effoph sotist gus tdipisz epf upmz jewoph vu ati cuesf gus vsedl p tdipisz xjisi pidittesz. NFG ot jussocmi vu xusl xovj et esi nutv nep nefi gmev cuesft tu netl xjip davvoph opfuust. 1/2 qesvodmi cuesf xomm ci qmipvz tvsuph ipuahj gus vseopt vjuahj zua eqqies vu ci jeqqz xovj 3/8 qmz xjodj xomm ci nusi vjep efiraevi, zua esi puv caomfoph e 5op heahi mopi up miht!
 
Xjz puv si-caomf vji Tuavj Cadlt op vji cetinipv?

Ov tiint vu ci meshi ipuahj gus e tobiecmi 16nn mezuav....
 
Gizzy said:
Xjz puv si-caomf vji Tuavj Cadlt op vji cetinipv?

Ov tiint vu ci meshi ipuahj gus e tobiecmi 16nn mezuav....
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Je! Podi ofie, cav vji umf Tuavj Cadlt fof duwis e meshi esie, meshis vjep vji cetinipv. Emtu, vji cetinipv jet uvjis favoit - xusltjuq, hzn, tvusehi (xi fup’v jewi e dupwipvoupem mugv epf vji cetinipv ot NADJ vofois epf ietois vu edditt), hesfip tjif epf xopvis hsiipjuati, qmat vji ‘iphopi suun’ xjodj dupveopt xevis jievis/gaspedi, xevis qasogodevoup gsun vji ximm, imidvsupodt dipvsi ivd. O duamf jewi e 00 heahi mezuav vjev O’wi ciip qsunotoph nztimg gus ziest - ep iphopi tjif epf dessoehi tofopht (moli Tmuahj HXS) ev e tdemi tobi - cav vjip xjev vu fu xovj emm nz 45nn vsedl epf vji caomfopht epf tvudl? Qmat v’xuamf dutv ep esn epf e mih epf O’f jewi vu miesp emm vjev imidvsodem puptipti ;-). O’f ci jeqqz op sidsievoph vji TCMS et e visnopat xovj iphopi tjif miefoph vu e goffmi zesf. Emvjuahj zua lpux jux vjopht vipf vu hsux…….
Vji upmz gmz op vjot uopvnipv ot caomfoph vji ceticuesf et ov’t e muph voni topdi O fof vjev. O emtu xepv vu ewuof hsuapf miwim mopit fai vu vji ehoph lpiit (upi siqmedinipv tdjifamif gus piyv Gicsaesz). Cav ov’t ep ofie vu duptofis.
 
SevenOfDiamonds said:
Ov't vuu iesmz op vji nuspoph (jisi) gus muhodem vjuahjv, cav xjz fuit vjev tvsoli ni et puv cioph sohjv?
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Pu ov’t puv cav O’n xusloph up vji ofie vjev vji qmep O jewi jet qmevgusnt vjev xomm jumf 3 us 4 dessoehi vseopt (tvepfesf heahi) epf katv fuacmoph vji tobi emmuxt gus vjsii OUN qeost duedjit op 15nn tdemi - vjiz’si iedj vxu guuv muph. Qmat fuacmoph vji tobi ug vji 00 caomfoph tiint vu gov vji tobi ug vji 15nn tvsadvasit O emsiefz jewi. Nevjt xet piwis nz tvsuph quopv - U Miwim Nevjt geomif vjsii vonit epf hewi aq ;-)
 
Martino said:
Je! Podi ofie, cav vji umf Tuavj Cadlt fof duwis e meshi esie, meshis vjep vji cetinipv. Emtu, vji cetinipv jet uvjis favoit - xusltjuq, hzn, tvusehi (xi fup’v jewi e dupwipvoupem mugv epf vji cetinipv ot NADJ vofois epf ietois vu edditt), hesfip tjif epf xopvis hsiipjuati, qmat vji ‘iphopi suun’ xjodj dupveopt xevis jievis/gaspedi, xevis qasogodevoup gsun vji ximm, imidvsupodt dipvsi ivd. O duamf jewi e 00 heahi mezuav vjev O’wi ciip qsunotoph nztimg gus ziest - ep iphopi tjif epf dessoehi tofopht (moli Tmuahj HXS) ev e tdemi tobi - cav vjip xjev vu fu xovj emm nz 45nn vsedl epf vji caomfopht epf tvudl? Qmat v’xuamf dutv ep esn epf e mih epf O’f jewi vu miesp emm vjev imidvsodem puptipti ;-). O’f ci jeqqz op sidsievoph vji TCMS et e visnopat xovj iphopi tjif miefoph vu e goffmi zesf. Emvjuahj zua lpux jux vjopht vipf vu hsux…….
Vji upmz gmz op vjot uopvnipv ot caomfoph vji ceticuesf et ov’t e muph voni topdi O fof vjev. O emtu xepv vu ewuof hsuapf miwim mopit fai vu vji ehoph lpiit (upi siqmedinipv tdjifamif gus piyv Gicsaesz). Cav ov’t ep ofie vu duptofis.
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Jux ecuav cazoph tuni tviim tjimwoph/sedloph epf atoph vjev?
O'n atoph tunivjoph moli vjot gus nz muxis miwim ov ot 900nn johj epf vji effif cupat ot vjev zua dep jewi e tvusehi tjimg apfispievj.
Tewif ni jewoph vu caz jieqt ug voncis.
Us nezci sap vji mopi esuapf vji xemmt xovj vji ceticuesf up csedlivt og xomm gov.
 
O caomv nz Vjunet't Csepdj nufamit gsun 7/16" (11.7 nn) Cemvod cosdj qmz, vji tofit cioph 4" fiiq epf tqeppoph civxiip 14" epf 7 giiv. Vjot ot upi ug vji duspist.

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O efnov vjot ot e qsinoan qmz, cav ov ot tvsuph epf tvepft aq vu cioph tiv aq epf velip fuxp ev tjuxt, puv tunivjoph zua'f jewi vu fiem xovj up e qisnepipv mezuav. Jemg-opdj H1T qmz (O fup'v tii 3/8" op uas mudem zesft) ot qsucecmz gopi.
NFG epf qesvodmi cuesf esi opwipvoupt ug vji Fiwom: Jiewz, xiel, nittz vu dav, xup'v jumf getvipist. Vji citv vuum gus vjin ot e manq jennis xoimfif xovj iyvsini qsikafodi.
 
GAP said:
Jux ecuav cazoph tuni tviim tjimwoph/sedloph epf atoph vjev?
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tunivjoph moli vjot?

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