Promising shot of the USATC 2-8-0 S160 from Aristocraft

Well done Hagen
So its not a S160 and never was suposed to be well at least that explains my surprise at Aristo could get something so wrong panic over
Plus just found this as well
"Dear All,

As you can see from the photo of the real Army Consolidation that the paint scheme is precisely accurate as is the model. The model was researched for 3 years before the mold work was begun and exactly matches the prototype B&O e-27 we chose to model. Yes, there were many versions, but ours was as typical as could be found.

As I said in the earlier post, this model looks good and runs better than it looks. We have moved the pc board and switches into the tender and the coal load is quickly and easily removable to give quick access to the board.

Like the RDC-3, this Consolidation will be appreciated when in hand and will perform perfectly. The new factory has now gained more experience and is more like the original Sanda Kan, not the interim, financial centered, owner. Yes, we cannot easily make changes for specific road names and you will need to customize that part yourself. It's still a hobby and we're making a mass produced product, not a short run brass product.

I'm proud of this product and glad to bring this to market.

All the best,
Lewis Polk "
 
But it's a smashing loco, I will get one. or two or three myself :)
 
Will it go round R1 curves ! Looks good though fo an USA Loco a USATC 0-6-0t would be nice.
 
Gareth said:
Will it go round R1 curves ! Looks good though fo an USA Loco a USATC 0-6-0t would be nice.
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If it's the same block as the Mike.....then no :nerd:
 
Looks a lot like no 29 from Grand Canyon RR to me. I rode on it in 1992 :)

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KeithT said:
I didn't even recognise it for what it is supposed to be until Tony posted the photo of the real thing.
Actually I thought that the wheels were the most realistic part!
Sorry but in its present form it is too toylike.
It would be unfortunate though if our comments deterred the manufacturers from allowing us previews.
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Too big for my layout, and too late as the layout I wanted to run it on has been pulled up.

Even if I still had that layout this version has all flanged wheels which means that even though its ment to be a smaller steamer it will still require wider than God knows what radius'. There was some mention from Aristo that this would be offered with blind center drivers, if it had I might have seriously considered modifying it to a 0-8-0 but I guess that even that nod to the R1 crowd was too much to ask for.
 
[align=center]R1 should be banned for anything more than four wheels, in 1/29, we might get some credibility then in the model world ,plus we may even get someone making a decent model that everyone wants to buy, and 1/32 well when they stop fitting ten foot diameter pressure gauges in the cabs of steam engines I may take them seriously,
I take my hat off to Lewis , I have met him and talked to him, it would have been better if he had stated the loco used as a basis for the model, , good job the internet wernt around after the war with that Hornby O tinplate hahah
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Err excuse Me chaps !!! Not all of us have gardens that can have eight foot and 10 foot curves and this gauge is supposed to be more fun than the smaller gauges !! If LGB can build an 2-10-2 and a Mikado and an 0-8-0 that goes round r1 whats the problem I have also built eight coupled locos that go round r1 . Remember Rule 8 form G scalemad days Its My railway and I will run what and how I like it !!!!
 
Gareth said:
Err excuse Me chaps !!! Not all of us have gardens that can have eight foot and 10 foot curves and this gauge is supposed to be more fun than the smaller gauges !! If LGB can build an 2-10-2 and a Mikado and an 0-8-0 that goes round r1 whats the problem
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They look utterly ridiculous doing it. And it requires quite a few concessions to be able to do it. a loco with blind drivers (that's not supposed to have blind drivers) is a real showstopper for me.

Gareth said:
I have also built eight coupled locos that go round r1 . Remember Rule 8 form G scalemad days Its My railway and I will run what and how I like it !!!!
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Run what you want, but... if what you want to run does not do R1 and 2 then you will have to change that before you can run what you want.
 
Strange one reason I came to G gauge was the stupid true to scale brigade these are models only caracatutes of the real thing if you want to be scale you have ap roblem the track would not be able to hold the weight of the locos and the metal/plastic of the locos would ne as thin as paper . This was to quote the late Donald Beeson (Master Model maker) So Chaps you have to get real . As broken chassis on LGB locos uneven and poorly laid track more of a problem as if the loco would not go round the bend it will derail !!! I enclos photo of a 4-8-0 that will go round r1 and does not look ridiculous !!!
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Sorry to argue with you Gareth, but there's a couple of steps between "true to scale" and "Rubber ruler caricature". I chose to set my rule 8 at "believable" or "modestly realistic". And sorry, but 2-10-2s traversing R1s does not look believable or realistic. It ruins my "suspension of disbelief" that I find so attracting about this size of models.
And sadly, if one insists on R1s for any reason then one is limited on what one can run.
 
hagen said:
It's close to the B&O E27
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About as close as Aristo is to any model. And the E27 series saw, as I mentioned above, several variatons and rebuilds during thir lifetime so this one might be 100% spot on for one of them.

More photos can be found here
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/bo_steam2.html
And if you look at them you will see that no two look excactly the same. Even so drastic differences as wagon top and belpaire fireboxes, and piston and slide valves.

And yes, the boiler is high on those. Also remember that the S160 was made to European (British) loading gauge. So should be quite a bit smaller overall. And yes... sadly it's 1/29

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[align=center]Well a model that looks like this would suit me fine, not a steam fan but this type of pipes everywhere attracts me
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funandtrains said:
It does get a bit annoying when every time a big new American loco or true scale brass loco comes out the same people ask "will it do R1". Americans have big gardens and there is no need to make the locos much more expensive so that they can squeeze around small radius tracks. There is nothing wrong with sticking to R1 if you are on tight budget but you just have to accept that you either have to limit yourself to small industrial models or trains marketed as toys rather than models, such as LGB, Playmobil, Hartland or Piko.
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Good point Mr Duffy, well presented.

We could probably start another thread on 'How big is your overhang?' 8|

I'm sure I could fit a picture of Fat Connie in there somewhere :rolf::rolf:
 
Rhinochugger said:
Good point Mr Duffy, well presented.

We could probably start another thread on 'How big is your overhang?' 8|

I'm sure I could fit a picture of Fat Connie in there somewhere :rolf::rolf:
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Yup, that's just the sort of thing I am talking about. And something I want to avoid on my railway (rule 8). If you are happy with it then all the better for you (rule 8).
 
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"Rule 8"
"The most important rule ............
ITS MY RAILWAY ,I WILL RUN WHAT I WANT, WHEN I WANT, HOWI WANT, AND IF YOU DON,T LIKE IT ......................"

Thanks Mike someone understand phew !!!
 
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