Question about DIGITRAX Zephyr DCS 50

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I'm a tram enthusiast and have made trams Scale G
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I bougt a used DIGITRAX Zephyr DCS 50 train controler. It has 2.5 Amps and says 12 V. Does anybody use it for G scale layouts?

I like to use it for my tram layout. What do you think?

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I will use it for this layout. The control unit will be inside the tram box.

And that is the Control uni It came with the American power supplyt:
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Thanks for any help. Peter.

 
The Zephyr is intended for small scale DCC layouts (HO or N scale). 12V output is low, you may find locos don't run fast enough. for G scale DCC you really need 18V - 24V.

Maximum power output 2.5A is enough for 2-3 small LGB locos, but once you start adding smoke and lights you'll soon run out of power.
 
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Yep, output voltage is regulated, so you cannot use a higher input voltage to get higher track voltage.

You did not indicate the number of locos running at the same time, nor did you indicate the power draw of your locos. You might get by with 2 locos if you convert all lighting to LED.

Greg
 
LGB Trams do not pull too much power, I would think you would be fine so long as you are only running one at a time and it does not have 2 Power Bogies. Though I reckon 2 cars should be OK.
JonD
 
I use one of these 'on the bench' for testing / installing..
I have used it on one end of 'The Harz', when the ends were split, and we were running two stations separately..

I would think you would be fine with the trams.. No smoke, and they are quite low current.

My unit does not like USA Trains American diesels.. At least, not with power on both motor-blocks, all the lights, AND twin smoke-units! -

The beauty of using a low voltage / power unit like this on the bench, is I (as yet) have not released 'magic smoke' from anything. - Even if there is a fault of some kind.
 
@ all of you: Many thanks for your quick answers. I don't know what to do. I would like to have a controler looking like a tram controler. Any suggestions,please?

Peter
 
Peter, just to confirm; you want a DCC system (not DC) ?

I'm not an expert on Digitrax systems but I think the Zephyr has a Loconet bus which would let you add a booster, eg a DB150 or DB200 which can be set to large scale voltage.
 
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@ all of you: Many thanks for your quick answers. I don't know what to do. I would like to have a controler looking like a tram controler. Any suggestions,please?

Peter
Peter, I think the Digitrax you showed at your first post is as close as you are going to get to a Tram Controller. LGB Trams as I said before should be OK with it. But will hardly break the World Speed Record, have you not tried it with a DCC fitted one yet?
JonD
 
I did fit some decoders into my trams. Also I've got now 5 trams with a decoder already came, or come with it. (One is on post to me, will arrive tomorrow) I made the decision to use DCC for my tramsI still have 4-5 decoders to set up. But these have to go in very old motor blocks. So I must do some cuttings new wiring on them.
I would like to run them on the big LGB layout at the Hannover Tram museum. My trams (not all of the) are almost using LGB decoders 55020 and 55021. At Hannover they are using Digitrax equipment. I took some tracks to Hannover and they offered a temporary layout. I tried it with LGB equipment. It was sucesfull.

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I used Dc DCC models. The DC models, had been parked on a parking track line, with separate electric blocks. So I could use one by one of the DC trams. The DCC trams allow me to run together with visitor kids about 5 trams at once, including one of the DC trams.

A year later I try to run my DCC models on their layout. The problem was that some of my trams with self fitted decoders did not run on their layout. We think that it had something to do with the settings between LGB DCC and Digitrax DCC System. And I'mm as a beginner can't prograsmm my decoders. I don't know how to do. In my dreams I would like to have a controler, looking like a real tram controler, buit with a DCC system.
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This picture shows a friend, working with two children, usind the LGB DCC Loco mouse.

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And that show my old self made DC controler. And know I wnat a similar one for DCC. Makes more fun. And it is easier to run different models. With DC I can run two trams. One take the power from tracks, And two DC trams running on overhead.
 
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A few years ago I visited a layout that used one of these DCC controllers, but he was only using it for a Kof diesel.

It seemed to cope with my V52 okay, although running at slow speeds.

The layout has been long dismantled.

Not sure if it had a booster connected.

I rather liked it with its large chunky controls, like what you would have in a real loco....
 
Does not say what its power output is (as far as I can see).
 
Mr NTP has a good solution, which I have used. The DCS50 is the command centre, which can then drive a booster unit DB100, or a command station configured as just a booster ( DB150, DB200 ). The booster is fed with 18 volts, which is then high enough for a reasonable speed. And you will have 5 amps, plenty for 2 or 3 trams moving at once.
You need a second speed controller? Hook up a second DCS50 configured as just a throttle onto the loconet bus, and away you go. And a third, and a fourth.... You can also use the handheld throttles ( UT..various models available).
I have bought a few Digitrax units used and they all were fine.

Malcolm
 
Can never find the manual when I want it, but..

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Back of unit.

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Bottom of unit.

So a couple of Amps, by the looks..
 
We know the DCS50 is 2.5 amps, it says so in the manual and was mentioned in the first post.

I am struggling to find the power rating of the ZTC 611....

[edit] The previous model ZTC511 was 5 amps, so I'm going to assume the 611 is similar[/edit]
 
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