Hmmmm. However they are simple to operate if you have the right software, Mach3 drives the thing i.e generates the tool paths but you need specific software to design the job before you get to that stage eg to make a PCB you need PCB design software then Mach3 will plot the cutter paths around the tracks. to make say name plates that you would normally etch to resemble cast a simple CAD program is all you need, there are other programs that will interpret a B&W photo.... The ability to 3D model is not essential....bobg said:Interesting, I have been conversing with S&H about the engraver and what it would need (apart from extra three brains to work it) and he goes on to look and the price is mysteriously now £3k instead of c£400. Sprats for Mackerel?