musket the dog
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Amazing Rik 
Really looks the business in Peckforton livery
Really looks the business in Peckforton livery
Southwold Railway Coach
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Railways @ 1.435 mm/ 1.000 mm/ 750 mm and 45mm
That reminds me of the German "Umbauwagen" (reconstruction coaches)
In scale 1:1 its easy - thew leaf spring in the middle is a bit longer & softer.
In scale 1:22,5 try to re-apply the PIKO-approach
(RAS593) Piko 37609 Spur G Umbauwagen B3yg Deutsche Weinstraße der DB, - Modellbahn Rhein-Main (modellbahn-rhein-main.de)
- w/o a fixed linkage - allowing the cetre axle to "swim" vertically, and with just a limited impact of the outer axles horizontally
Details at 2:50
PIKO Spur G # Umbauwagen B3yg der DB 2. Klasse Piko Gartenbahn, Epoche IV ein tolles Modell - YouTube
And it seems to work (see 1:20)
BR64 Bubikopf mit Umbauwagen - YouTube
In scale 1:1 its easy - thew leaf spring in the middle is a bit longer & softer.
In scale 1:22,5 try to re-apply the PIKO-approach
(RAS593) Piko 37609 Spur G Umbauwagen B3yg Deutsche Weinstraße der DB, - Modellbahn Rhein-Main (modellbahn-rhein-main.de)
- w/o a fixed linkage - allowing the cetre axle to "swim" vertically, and with just a limited impact of the outer axles horizontally
Details at 2:50
PIKO Spur G # Umbauwagen B3yg der DB 2. Klasse Piko Gartenbahn, Epoche IV ein tolles Modell - YouTube
And it seems to work (see 1:20)
BR64 Bubikopf mit Umbauwagen - YouTube
Northsider
Modelling the Northern half of the Isle of Man
The residents of Peckforton, Beeston Market and Bickerton will appreciate the comfort that only a six-wheeler can give. I feel a fare increase coming on.
ge_rik
British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
I managed to get out into the garden on Saturday and ran the coach over the entire line. There are still two places where the middle truck sometimes becomes derailed, but I can see why. I'm working on a fix - fingers crossed. In the meantime ......
Rik
Rik
Very nice Rik, be lovely to see one in the early light (yellow?) livery. Now you have pretty much nailed making them another (after you have got the amount you need) for vanity reasons should be a breeze, but I guess that storage as ever may be a issue.
ge_rik
British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
Thanks Andreas. Very interesting. I think these are shorter overall than the Southwold coach and the outside wheels are closer to the middle, which makes the mechanism a bit easier to construct. It looks like they can negotiate even R1 curves, which my coach can't. I was trying to see how the middle wheel truck is attached which is what I'm wrestling with at the moment, but it looks as if the system is buried under the truck somewhere.
Rik
ge_rik
British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
Thanks Jon. Still a bit more twiddling to get it working reliably. The easiest way would be to iron out the two bits of track which cause it trouble, but I'm trying to see if I can modify the suspension system for the middle truck first. Once I've got that sorted and redesigned it, then I'll try making another coach.
As you say, storage will soon become compromised......
Rik
musket the dog
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The finished product looks great Rik, I hope you're really pleased with it despite the teething troubles. I bet there aren't too many people out there who could boast a mixed train of Southwold stock in G. With their choice of locomotive too 
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
The carriage itself might benefit from a bit more weight, but you've now set yourself a task - it needs to go behind a Southwold Sharpe Stewart in either guise 2-4-0 or 2-4-2; they were attractive locos, and suitably petite for a narrow gauge line
Not to forget the Manning Wardle 0-6-2.The carriage itself might benefit from a bit more weight, but you've now set yourself a task - it needs to go behind a Southwold Sharpe Stewart in either guise 2-4-0 or 2-4-2; they were attractive locos, and suitably petite for a narrow gauge line
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
Not quite so attractive - but a workhorse nonetheless
Northsider
Modelling the Northern half of the Isle of Man
I have an MNR Sharpie on the to do list for r*tirement; the difficulty is the radial-boxed front axle, which can only swing between the slidebars (without fouling): not a problem in 1:1 scale, but a significant one where there are smaller radius curves to negotiate. A bit of sideways slop on the rear driving axle might help...but it might not.The carriage itself might benefit from a bit more weight, but you've now set yourself a task - it needs to go behind a Southwold Sharpe Stewart in either guise 2-4-0 or 2-4-2; they were attractive locos, and suitably petite for a narrow gauge line
I think Rik already has a Sharpie -I'm sure I've read a build log.
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
I suppose the alternative is to cheat - have the front pony truck and the centre axle rigid and let the rear axle swing. Probably not so easy with the coupling rods but it's a fairly short wheelbase - there's gotta be a way
I think you will find that treating it as a pony truck would be the best bet for sharpe curves, it would only show up horrible in the curves as does any pony truck. But most of the time should look like it is meant to.
Rhinochugger
Retired Oik
ge_rik
British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
Yes indeed, I do have a 2-4-2 Sharpie. Mine uses a Playmobil 0-4-0 motor block (because it was the nearest I could find for drivers size and spacing) with a pony truck each side.
Here she is when she entered service seven years ago. She now has a much more controllable Deltang receiver than that I installed at the time.
Rik
PS I was going to use her to test run the coach, but decided a combination of Cleminson undercarriage and pony trucks on hastily cleared leaf strewn track would be asking too much. It then got dark before I could give the Sharpie a run with the coach.
Here she is when she entered service seven years ago. She now has a much more controllable Deltang receiver than that I installed at the time.
Rik
PS I was going to use her to test run the coach, but decided a combination of Cleminson undercarriage and pony trucks on hastily cleared leaf strewn track would be asking too much. It then got dark before I could give the Sharpie a run with the coach.
ge_rik
British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
Finally got around to constructing a second Southwold Cleminson coach. Oddly enough this one seems to have taken longer than the first - possibly because I've been tweaking the design as I've gone along. Touch wood, I think I've got the 6-wheel undercarriage sorted, though I've not yet given both coaches a thorough test run together. Coach number three is currently being printed - thought it'll take a while as there's quite a few large parts to be done.
Rik
Rik
Very nice, not too far from your line being just SLR. Cue for a remodel, you could sort out some of the diffrences by thinking that the Tramway from Lowestoft was a 3ft Street Tramway with a bit of Railway at the extreme end and that the Middy was also a 3ft line both linking in to the SLR.
ge_rik
British narrow gauge (esp. Southwold and W&LLR)
Not sure that you would need to remodel that much, the Middy and Lowestoft connections could be imagineered as part of your existing line with some simple out of the box thinking. Oh and some fancy Timetable revisions?You are a very naughty man, Jon. I have no plans to remodel the PLR ...... yet!
Rik