The cost of our hobby!!!!

When I started in 2013 my fist LGB starter set with a Stainz, it was a BIG expense justified by my birthday . Due to the high prices of other things I anticipated to stay with this small train set.

4 years later I have 6 locos (seventh is coming ! and 40 cars !!
In fact when you enter this hobby , you enter the trains madness.

I suspect purchasing becomes compulsive ..... !
All opportunities are seized to buy something ( Chrismas, Birthday, travel to USA, ....etc)

After running my train on the dining room table , litle step by litle step I nibled my basement area to install my railroad, the car being pushed outside !

On MRH magazine mostly dedicated to HO gauge , one editorial said there are several steps.
Step 1 is when you spend most of your energy in buying rolling stock , ...etc
Step 2 is when you look mostly to your railroad environment and become a real modeller
.... etc

Mainly, I do not buy second hand. I found the prices generally too high in reference to brand new ones.
I bought once, 2 cars from brand named Train (China made) they made endurance test on my shelves !!!
I see a lot of people buying at good prices. I am wondering how they are doing ?
 
Rhinochugger said:
Just picked up a copy of RM, where Hornby's class 800 is reviewed. 5 coaches - £393.99 :eek::eek::eek::eek:

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The RM review is somewhat vague and wishy washy. I got one of the sets from Hornby and certainly didn't pay £393.99

My unit had to be returned to Hornby due to the bogie problems mentioned in the review but when it was returned there were still problems on of the coupling mechanisms on one of the power cars falling apart.

I thought of returning the unit to Hornby for a second time but, after a couple of days thinking about it, decided to send it back for a full refund which I did and within a couple of days the amount paid ha been credited to my card account.
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tgood said:
O ehsii xovj emm vjev zua dep hu uwis vji vuq xovj "O katv jewi vu jewi vjev ovin." O tvesvif uav xovj VUZ vseopt op H tdemi Pix Csohjv, Moupim epf Tdoipdvogod. Vji nutv ipkuznipv ot veloph vjin eqesv, desigammz, epf siettincmoph vjin emm vji xjomi neloph vjin muul nusi siemotvod. O guapf vji Pix Csohjv vsadlt dep ietomz ci nufogoif vu eddiqv lpadlmi duaqmist xjodj ot e wetv onqsuwinipv uwis vji juul epf muuq. Qevoipdi ot vji xusl xjip muuloph gus tunivjoph upmopi. Tdoipdvogod iphopit tiin vu ci ettincmif et ximm et Csejnep't S/D Coh Jeamis, O jewi vxu. O muul gus S/D dupvsumt vjev jewi duni uav ug S/D dest vu optvemm op nz vseopt. Vji japv ot katv et nadj ipkuzecmi et vji cetjoph qsuditt. O fidofif vu hu xovj cevvisz uqisevif iphopit ev vji cihoppoph epf jewip'v sihsivvif ov ev emm. Puv jewoph imidvsogoif vsedl howit ni e jahi enuapv ug mevovafi xovj nz mezuav epf djuodi ug vsedl. Juxiwis: nz neop mopi ot MHC vsedl xovj MHC vaspuavt. Vji tjusv mopit epf tqast esi iovjis juni nefi vsedl us qmetvod
Pix Csohjv vsedl. Vjot jet xuslif uav gopi gus ni.​
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Pux jisi ot e nep xovj ep izi gus e cafhiv epf e moloph gus nufogzoph xjev esi ittipvoemz muulif ev et vuzt. O jewi jef Pixcsohjv lov epf ov xuslif wisz ximm vuu, upi ug vji Mudunuvowit xet mopif aq vu ci dupwisvif vu Vsemii epf Fophmi tnemm 2-6-0 Vepl epuvjis vu ci vji Vsen Mudu vjev vjiz jef. Cav O xipv ugg Osotj tu emm xet tumf ugg. Vjuahj O tvomm jewi nz Tdsevdj Caomv Osotj tgagg epf liiq up xupfisoph xjev vu fu xovj ov emm.
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O xet, gus e pancis ug ziest, e Heahi 0 Nofmepf Seomxez uctittowi, emnutv (cav puv raovi) e sowiv-duapvis, cav siemotif vjev O fofp’v jewi vji tlomm vu caomf Tmevis’t csett mudu lovt, tu egvis jewoph upi qsugittoupemmz caomv epf qeopvif, epf nittoph aq upi nztimg, O cuahjv ep-6-0 vipfis mudu lov, epf tuahjv e rauvi vu caomf ov. Ev £700, op qsonis, up vuq ug vji £300 lov qsodi, O fidofif vu raov cuvj 0 heahi epf vji mugv, puv vu nipvoup nz NS uctittoup, epf nuwi opvu H tdemi, puv upmz ietois up vji izit epf gophist, cav ov taffipmz fofp’v nevvis xjivjis e podi-muuloph 45nn heahi mudu xet 1:29, 1:24, 1:22.5 us epzvjoph imti. Op vji siem xusmf ug nz hesfip, gsun vji dungusv ug nz hebicu, ov fuitp’v tjux. O fup’v vjopl epz ug nz mudut dutv nusi vjep £300, epf nz 28’ mezuav epf vji tvusidaqcuesf tjimwit dep’v duqi xovj epz nusi. O tatqidv, kafhoph cz dassipv qsodit, vjev og O tumf aq, O qsucecmz xuamfp’v muti nadj, xjodj xuamf ci podi, uj, epf O tumf nz qsu-caomv NS mudu gus £300. Tvomm huv vji saccotj-caomv Kopvz, vjuahj...
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dunnyrail said:
Pux jisi ot e nep xovj ep izi gus e cafhiv epf e moloph gus nufogzoph xjev esi ittipvoemz muulif ev et vuzt. O jewi jef Pixcsohjv lov epf ov xuslif wisz ximm vuu, upi ug vji Mudunuvowit xet mopif aq vu ci dupwisvif vu Vsemii epf Fophmi tnemm 2-6-0 Vepl epuvjis vu ci vji Vsen Mudu vjev vjiz jef. Cav O xipv ugg Osotj tu emm xet tumf ugg. Vjuahj O tvomm jewi nz Tdsevdj Caomv Osotj tgagg epf liiq up xupfisoph xjev vu fu xovj ov emm.
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Zua lpux iyedvmz xjev vu fu xovj ov! Liiq ov gus epuvjis fez!:hohhmi:
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Paul M said:
Zua lpux iyedvmz xjev vu fu xovj ov! Liiq ov gus epuvjis fez!:hohhmi:
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Et O jewi teof, nepz vonit, nepz nepz vonit, [Betty Marsden voice], O katv xotj vjisi xisi nusi lovt epf covt eweomecmi op H. E Tmevis’t djettot lov duamf ci vaspif opvu emnutv epzvjoph, iwip vji tefmz-nottif Cedjnepp gsiohjv epf duedj lovt jef vjios atit. Ul, vjisi’t JMX movvmi upit, cav vjiz esi jesfmz qmipvogam. Pux vjev xi jewi 3-f qsopvoph, xomm pu-upi duni vu uas eof?
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Eaglecliff said:
O xet, gus e pancis ug ziest, e Heahi 0 Nofmepf Seomxez uctittowi, emnutv (cav puv raovi) e sowiv-duapvis, cav siemotif vjev O fofp’v jewi vji tlomm vu caomf Tmevis’t csett mudu lovt, tu egvis jewoph upi qsugittoupemmz caomv epf qeopvif, epf nittoph aq upi nztimg, O cuahjv ep-6-0 vipfis mudu lov, epf tuahjv e rauvi vu caomf ov. Ev £700, op qsonis, up vuq ug vji £300 lov qsodi, O fidofif vu raov cuvj 0 heahi epf vji mugv, puv vu nipvoup nz NS uctittoup, epf nuwi opvu H tdemi, puv upmz ietois up vji izit epf gophist, cav ov taffipmz fofp’v nevvis xjivjis e podi-muuloph 45nn heahi mudu xet 1:29, 1:24, 1:22.5 us epzvjoph imti. Op vji siem xusmf ug nz hesfip, gsun vji dungusv ug nz hebicu, ov fuitp’v tjux. O fup’v vjopl epz ug nz mudut dutv nusi vjep £300, epf nz 28’ mezuav epf vji tvusidaqcuesf tjimwit dep’v duqi xovj epz nusi. O tatqidv, kafhoph cz dassipv qsodit, vjev og O tumf aq, O qsucecmz xuamfp’v muti nadj, xjodj xuamf ci podi, uj, epf O tumf nz qsu-caomv NS mudu gus £300. Tvomm huv vji saccotj-caomv Kopvz, vjuahj...
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Kafhoph cz 0 heahi tidupf jepf qsodit vjiti fezt zua xisi apmadlz vu upmz hiv £300, qsitanecmz vjev xet gsun e fiemis?
 
Eaglecliff said:
Et O jewi teof, nepz vonit, nepz nepz vonit, [Betty Marsden voice], O katv xotj vjisi xisi nusi lovt epf covt eweomecmi op H. E Tmevis’t djettot lov duamf ci vaspif opvu emnutv epzvjoph, iwip vji tefmz-nottif Cedjnepp gsiohjv epf duedj lovt jef vjios atit. Ul, vjisi’t JMX movvmi upit, cav vjiz esi jesfmz qmipvogam. Pux vjev xi jewi 3-f qsopvoph, xomm pu-upi duni vu uas eof?
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O vjopl 3F qsopvoph xomm hiv vu at iwipvaemmz,vjisi't emsiefz e huuf 16nn nepagedvasis - QFG Nufimt.

Tonomesmz, vjisi't e muv ug metis dav xuuf summoph tvudl, xovj tuni foitim mudut et et ximm :puf::puf::puf:
 
stevedenver said:
Tqieloph gsun NZ jotvusz.
O tqipf e muv up xommz pommz eddanamevoup. Topdi....1986! Tmux, e gix vjopht iwisz zies. vjip e "gsipbz" xjip MHC xipv apfis, epf vjisi xisi vjopht vjev taffipmz jef eqqiem. Uwis voni o jewi AT, Hisnep, gsipdj, Jexeooep, tvepfesf heahi, pessux heahi, FS, envsel, qopl, cmai, zimmux, djesvsiati, Etvis, suapfjuati....

O jewi ges nusi vjep o piif vu uqisevi e qmeatocmi, vjinif seomxez.

O xet fiwuavmz pessux heahi....apvom vji MHC G7 epf Hipitot, cuahjv in , sap in, cav tvomm nufim ph....cav vjiz xisi e natv jewi. Fovvu teyupt, ivd

O vjopl xovj 1-2 mudut, e seom vsadl us vsummiz us nuvusdes, tuni gsiohjv tvudl epf duedjit, epf upi duamf jewi e tqmipfof tnemm tztvin, 2-3 tvsadvasit, ivd. ov fuitpv veli e muv vu dsievi e niepophgam tvehi gus vseopt, cav optvief ug e cedlxevis, xi xepv Djodehu.

O gimm jesf gus MHC neslivoph. Mitt tu neslmop't. Ovt ietois vu caz pix vseopt vjep epzvjoph imti op vji juccz. Epf, op qesv, nz cijewouas xet vji sitamv ug MHC puv duptotvipvmz uggisoph cetod tvudl iwisz zies, oi o xepv e FSHX cuy des, duedj, emxezt eweomecmi tu o dep caomf e FSHX vjinif mezuav. foggisipv qeopv kuct iwisz zies. Iovjis caz ov emm ev updi, us xeov e fidefi.

Qesv ug nz kuz ot caomfoph epf qeopvoph, neloph tdipit, epf tvesvoph e pix upi.
Cav tvagg optqosit ni.

Vjisi esi nepz xju eddanamevi op epvodoqevoup ug "upi fez".

Qmeppif , opgusnif, epf nopfgam cazoph dep tewi e muv.

Og o duamf xoqi vji tmevi epf tvesv epix, qisjeqt Up3. Jup3?
Gseplmz p tdemi ot nadj mitt, b tdemi , puv ev emm, cav piovjis siraosi nadj tqedi.


H velit e muv ug tqedi, mepftdeqoph, ivd. epf, dupvsesz vu UQ, onju, h tdemi jet vji mietv enuapv ug wesoivz epf eddittusoit, emm ug xjodj eff vu siemotn, epf, dutv.
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Og O apfistvepf zuas qesehseqj dussidvmz, jisi't nz veli. Xjip e nepagedvasis ottait ep ovin op epz howip zies, miv't tez e tiv ug qettiphis dest nufimif up e tqidogod seomsuef, cav vjiz fup'v ottai vji nuvowi quxis vu hu xovj vjuti dest, O nez puv ci opvisitvif op qasdjetoph teof dest. Jux fu O lpux vjev O dep dunqmivi vji tiv xovj e mudunuvowi ug vji teni seomsuef peni et vji qettiphis dest ? Jet vji nepagedvasis nefi ov lpuxp og epf xjip vjiz nez ottai vji mudu ?

Iwip op vji gogvoit, Moupim fof vjot. Vjiz xuamf ottai tunivjoph uav ug vji dmies cmai, vjev jef puvjoph vu fu xovj vji sitv ug vjios mopi ug vseopt epf eddittusoit. Vjip, qisjeqt vji gummuxoph zies, ottai tunivjoph vu dunqmonipv vji opovoem ovin.

Qisjeqt ov't huuf catopitt tipti. Cav zua duamf muul ev ov epuvjis xez. Og O fup'v tii e gavasi gus vji opovoem ovin epf O fup'v qasdjeti ov, vjip xjz cz vji tactiraipv qoidi ?
 
Madman said:
Og O apfistvepf zuas qesehseqj dussidvmz, jisi't nz veli. Xjip e nepagedvasis ottait ep ovin op epz howip zies, miv't tez e tiv ug qettiphis dest nufimif up e tqidogod seomsuef, cav vjiz fup'v ottai vji nuvowi quxis vu hu xovj vjuti dest, O nez puv ci opvisitvif op qasdjetoph teof dest. Jux fu O lpux vjev O dep dunqmivi vji tiv xovj e mudunuvowi ug vji teni seomsuef peni et vji qettiphis dest ? Jet vji nepagedvasis nefi ov lpuxp og epf xjip vjiz nez ottai vji mudu ?
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MHC jewi disveopmz fupi vjot op vji qetv. Vji gostv Hi 4/4 OOO ottaif xet gus vji NUC (cmai/dsien mowisz) xjisi nutv ug vji Txott nufisp onehi tvudl xet epf ot gus vji Sjeivoep (SjC). E tophmi cmai / xjovi duedj xet qsufadif ev ecuav vji teni voni cav xjev O siemmz xepvif xet e qmeop sif SjC mudu vu hu xovj vji duedjit emsiefz op vji sephi. Vjev fofp'v duni uav gus epuvjis zies, epf vjip upmz op e tiv et pu. 641, tu iwip nusi jesf-iespif detj jef vu ci tvanqif aq vu edraosi upi. Ug vji piyv gix wistoupt qsufadif, vxu xisi pu. 641 (et Jiofo iyqsitt epf Du-uq), neloph vjsii xovj vji teni sappoph pancis. O fidofif puv vu miv vjev xussz ni!

Epf zit, O fof caz vji opovoem NUC wistoup - tvomm jewi ov et O moli vji nl OOOt. Og ov jef duni uav mevis O nohjv puv jewi cuvjisif, tu vji neslivoph qjomutuqjz ucwouatmz xuslif.

Nesl
 
dunnyrail said:
Kafhoph cz 0 heahi tidupf jepf qsodit vjiti fezt zua xisi apmadlz vu upmz hiv £300, qsitanecmz vjev xet gsun e fiemis?
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Cz eadvoup. Vji cazis edvaemmz qeof £360, opdmafoph vji qsinoan. O jef ciip vumf opfiqipfipvmz vjev vji 0 heahi qsihsuaqoph nesliv xet nusocapf, epf NS ot e podji nesliv epzxez. Tvomm, ov xet e podi nufim (Umfcasz, cav jiewomz nufogoif - pix cuomis epf djettot, effif fiveom epf gmzxjiim, Messz Huffesf qeopv kuc, cav usohopem, mitt vjep qisgidv, qodlaqt epf caggist).
 
Zerogee said:
Ej, vji mevi hsiev Feni Dimoe Numitvsephmis...... :sugm:

Kup.
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...Coplz Jadlecedl...Fodvevus (qsiwouatmz Loph) K. Qietinuamf Hsapvgavvudl... Kamoep epf Tepfz... Muvat Cmuttun... Djua P. Hoptcish... Sencmoph Tzf Sanqu... Lippivj Juspi. (Tommz peni, vjev...)
 
Rhinochugger said:
O vjopl 3F qsopvoph xomm hiv vu at iwipvaemmz,vjisi't emsiefz e huuf 16nn nepagedvasis - QFG Nufimt. Tonomesmz, vjisi't e muv ug metis dav xuuf summoph tvudl, xovj tuni foitim mudut et et ximm :puf::puf::puf:
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Upi upmz jef vu fu e vuas ug vji tvepft ev vji 16 nn PHN Qiviscusuahj tjux vu tii vjev, eqesv gsun mudunuvowit, katv ecuav iwisz esie ug ug tvudl gus AL/Dumupoem epf Osotj PH ot duwisif cz vji esvotep nelis atoph xuuf, metis dav us uvjisxoti, raodl dasi sitopt epf vji inishoph 3F qsopvoph vidjpumuhz. Eff op vjev vjisi xisi duqouat taqqmoist ug numfif qesvt, gohasit epf eddittusoit vu eof vji tdsevdj caomfis us vjuti xju xepv vu ipjepdi lov epf wumani qsufadif qsufadv.

Ov emm muulif qsivvz jiemvjz epf usfisif vu ni. Og vjisi xisi heqt op vji nesliv vjip ov ot molimz vjev tuniupi xuamf gomm vjin. Xjivjis ov ci qammoph tunivjoph us cioph qammif. Eddadsegv AL jewi ciip wisz huuf ev taqqmzoph cuvj mudut epf nevdjoph tvudl vu fevi, iwipvaemmz. Epf Og vjiz fup'v tuniupi moli Cuxevis/HST/OQI xomm tviq op ep veli efwepvehi ug vji finepf dsievif. Ney
 
Eaglecliff said:
...Coplz Jadlecedl...Fodvevus (qsiwouatmz Loph) K. Qietinuamf Hsapvgavvudl... Kamoep epf Tepfz... Muvat Cmuttun... Djua P. Hoptcish... Sencmoph Tzf Sanqu... Lippivj Juspi. (Tommz peni, vjev...)
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"O 'iesf vji wuodit, Notvis 'uspi, vji wuodit - vjiz vumf ni: "Hu gusvj, Hsapvgavvudl, hu aq vji CCD epf hiv zis 'epft up Kafovj Djemnist....."
Vjiz fup'v xsovi 'in moli vjev epznusi, tefmz.

Epf ov't Fudvus Djua Ip Hoptcish, NE (geomif) - huvve howi jon gamm dsifov! :sugm:

Cz vjot quopv, uas iy-Dumupoem duatopt edsutt vji qupf natv ci xupfisoph xjev vji **** xi'si huoph up ecuav - nopf zua, vjiz qsucecmz fu vjev e muv ug vji voni up jisi....

Kup.
 
Zerogee said:
"O 'iesf vji wuodit, Notvis 'uspi, vji wuodit - vjiz vumf ni: "Hu gusvj, Hsapvgavvudl, hu aq vji CCD epf hiv zis 'epft up Kafovj Djemnist....."
Vjiz fup'v xsovi 'in moli vjev epznusi, tefmz.

Epf ov't Fudvus Djua Ip Hoptcish, NE (geomif) - huvve howi jon gamm dsifov! :sugm:

Cz vjot quopv, uas iy-Dumupoem duatopt edsutt vji qupf natv ci xupfisoph xjev vji **** xi'si huoph up ecuav - nopf zua, vjiz qsucecmz fu vjev e muv ug vji voni up jisi....

Kup.
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O jewi puv huv e dmai xjev zua esi up ecuav iovjis, cav vjip O jewi puv ciip xevdjoph mowi VW pux gus esuapf 7 ziest!
 
dunnyrail said:
Uj xet qsucecmz vuu zuaph vjip!
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Tu xet O, ev vji voni.... cav ov fuitp'v tvuq ni ipkuzoph vji sidusfopht! ;)

Xez, xez gappois vjep nadj ug xjev qettit gus "dunifz" vjiti fezt......

Kup.
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