three years into Marklin take-over and excellent LGB program 2011!

[adverse camber]

Glad to see I am not the only one who bought their first LGB starter set at an IMREX exibition in Horticultural Halls wetminster all those years ago. I still have the Stanz but am now otherwise US and still all LGB

AC

 

[3Valve]

the market will decided what sells, be it top end quallity, mild off the road ,or cheap and chearfull... you pays your money. you make your choices..

But if your pricing means that folks who used to buy your product can no longer afford to your'e taking that choice away from them.

 

[mike]

and stilll aston martins sell.....

 

[yb281]

and stilll aston martins sell.....

Yes, but not many.

 

[dutchelm]

and stilll aston martins sell.....

but Bristol cars are in administration

 

[3Valve]

Ah the old Aston Martin argument.

So are we saying that LGB should become an elite brand only available to the chosen few then (a la Aston Martin)?

 

[mike]

no .. we are saying lgb isnt expensive.

 

[mike]

new baggity diesal.. £300 .. you think thats expensive?
new lgb kof diesal .. £339 you think thats expensive?

 

[mike]

new lgb mallet.£500
how much is a round house live steamer?

 

[3Valve]

new baggity diesal.. £300 .. you think thats expensive?
new lgb kof diesal .. £339 you think thats expensive?

Yes to both.

Edit - Just seen your post re: Mallet price Mike. Agree for what you get a Mallet at £500 sounds OK to me.

 

[mike]

the market will decided what sells, be it top end quallity, mild off the road ,or cheap and chearfull... you pays your money. you make your choices..
is what i said...

 

[mike]

new baggity diesal.. £300 .. you think thats expensive?
new lgb kof diesal .. £339 you think thats expensive?

Yes to both.

well, in that case,we agree to disagree

 

[yb281]

the market will decided what sells, be it top end quallity, mild off the road ,or cheap and chearfull... you pays your money. you make your choices..
is what i said...

Agree with that mate, but it seems a shame that Marklin haven't (yet?) offered the "cheaper" end of the old LGB range such as the toy trains, Otto's etc. that would tempt the youngsters and less wealthy into the hobby. I just think that they're missing a trick that Lehmanns seemed very well aware of.

 

[3Valve]

new baggity diesal.. £300 .. you think thats expensive?
new lgb kof diesal .. £339 you think thats expensive?

Yes to both.

well, in that case,we agree to disagree

Absolutely Mike, I can live with that mate.

Re: the Mallet price. £500 for a new Mallet sounds fine to me, that's a lot of loco for the money.

 

[mike]

i hear what your saying mell, .. and garatha, i m sorry, if £330 is too expenisive..
how a bout a brand new , lgb loco, ..in a boxs ,from a repatable dealer for ..
£174? its listed as out off stock but on order..
http://www.dragon-gscale.co.uk/lgb-24900-diesel-locomotive-park-train-3398-p.asp

 

[mike]

new baggity diesal.. £300 .. you think thats expensive?
new lgb kof diesal .. £339 you think thats expensive?

Yes to both.

well, in that case,we agree to disagree

Absolutely Mike, I can live with that mate.

Re: the Mallet price. £500 for a new Mallet sounds fine to me, that's a lot of loco for the money.

i thought, bugger it, its £170 more than a kof!!

 

[3Valve]

i hear what your saying mell, .. and garatha, i m sorry, if £330 is too expenisive..
how a bout a brand new , lgb loco, ..in a boxs ,from a repatable dealer for ..
£174? its listed as out off stock but on order..
http://www.dragon-gscale.co.uk/lgb-24900-diesel-locomotive-park-train-3398-p.asp

Fair enough mate that's bloody reasonable. Shame about the livery, but for that price you can afford to get one and respray it.

 

[mike]

ahh, but a kof and the shunter,... or a mallet...i am a bad lad

 

[3Valve]

Nah I wouldn't have a Kof. I just don't think it's very much loco for the money mate.

 

[chris m01]

Hopefully LGB will keep going for years to come but one thing is for sure is that will not dominate the Market in Europe the way they used to.

I agree with you on both counts.

Regarding pricing - V220 at Dragon - £559, USA Trains GP38 - £259. Both are very well detailed, smooth running locos that in my experience will last a long time. V200 detail is a little less fine but also a little tougher. Genrally speaking other manufacturers locos do seem to offer better value for money.

USA Trains wagons are not cheaper than LGB equivilents. When I made a close comparison a few years ago I found the USA Trains model came with metal wheels compared to plastic on LGB. The USA Trains wagon had finer, but more fragile detail. Which is best of these options is down to individual choice - there is no universal right or wrong decision.

Most USA Trains and Aristo locos run well straight out of the box and I have seen very few quality problems (although my latest USA Trains acquisition did have a loose wire but this is the first one like that).

15 years ago LGB was easily the greatest garden railway system but the competition has improved significantly over time. Now I think each of us will have our own favourites for our own reasons and no one manufacturer can be rated as the best.