Which layout would members prefer please?

Greg Elmassian said:
WHOOPS.... can I slink away with my tail between my legs?

So strike the reverse loop part out of my post....

But my comments on complexity and DCC power and power feeds and complexity do stand...

Thanks for keeping me honest Rhino!

Greg
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No need - life's too short mate

Over here we have a drink called Horlicks - that was one of those :D:D
 
Rhinochugger said:
I'm not sure there's a reverse loop there, Greg :think::think::think:
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Agreed, there is no reverse loop.

I do agree with the other earlier comment that the plan in the first post isn't great because you cannot run out of one terminus and back into the other without reversing. That would soon drive me nuts!
 
ntpntpntp said:
Agreed, there is no reverse loop.

I do agree with the other earlier comment that the plan in the first post isn't great because you cannot run out of one terminus and back into the other without reversing. That would soon drive me nuts!
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I think we have to remember that Sarah has a fairly small patch, likes to tail chase, and is looking for a bit of variety - I have assumed that as those sidings are pretty short, loco turn around will be via the great hand in the sky :nod::nod:

I could be wrong, but having read some of her other posts over recent weeks, I don't think she's into end-to-end running per se :shake::shake::shake:

So the sidings are really parking areas, as opposed to part of a bigger operation - I think :think::think::think:
 
Nothing wrong with 'blind' sidings, trains can be hauled out with another loco and the first loco returned via a different route under it's own 'steam', or pull another train from an adjacent siding. Just a question of planning and routing.
 
Thank you for your many replies. I have yet to digest them all so in the meantime here is a sketch of what I have so far.(Hope you can differentiate between the lined paper.)

As you can see it is mainly straight track and 90/180 bends. There is an end to end and continuous circuit with bypass loop.

So the difference between the track plan which I began this topic with is evident.

Further thoughts would be appreciated please?

Thank you,

Sarah Winfield
 

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Sarah, if you were to join the tracks coming in on the left of your pencil diagram, this would allow you to turn a train / loco round, which may give you more options??
BUT..
It does introduce a reverse loop into the system..
 
PhilP said:
Sarah, if you were to join the tracks coming in on the left of your pencil diagram, this would allow you to turn a train / loco round, which may give you more options??
BUT..
It does introduce a reverse loop into the system..
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i would rather add a passing loop to the outside of the dotted line with a platform between the then 'Up' and 'Down' tracks. Gives the whole thing purpose. No reverse loop.
 
I quite like the pencil sketch plan. I think you can develop the dotted line into another run round loop and operate end to end if you wanted. I would fold the passing loop into the west side yard so its equidistant from the two little stations. What you have can be tweaked to give you more options than the LGB plan. For the most of the time we all just leave a train running, but it is nice to have the option to play trains when someone comes to visit.

If the LGB track plans do nothing else, they remind us we can fit a lot in a small space. Most of them are classic LGB - short engines, short trains and tight curves, and theres nothing wrong with that.
 
Mallarddriver said:
Hello Sarah,

how much space have U got ?

Cheers
Soeren
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Hello.

I have an area 5.1/2m x 3m and the track-work pretty much fills it.

The 2 terminii were bought into the centre with the idea, in the future of combining the station trackwork, and having trains coming into it from either direction and being able to depart again via either loop. (I appreciate there will be some kind of reverse electrics to sort but it should only be 1).

The alternative is to have the two stations on opposite sides of the continuous circuit and leave the centre clear.

SW
 
Sarah, whatever you decide to build, remember the sods law about derailments etc., they will occur when you least expect, and usually in the most difficult places to reach.

I wanted a wider station, but my arms are not long enough.:)
 
Rhinochugger said:
I'm not sure there's a reverse loop there, Greg :think::think::think:
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I can't see one, either.

I'm not too taken with this design...... the sidings are really too short to be of real practical use for other than a small tank loco and very short 4 wheel wagon trains.
My philosophy on points and sidings is basically economics. Points cost lots of money, therefore you should have some justification for them, and that basically is to access a siding that will have a practical use, ie holding a whole train, or serve some prototypical purpose like a private loading siding. I often cringe when I see turnouts (placed prototypically) being 'wasted' on trap points/runaway tracks. Also cringeworthy, is the use of 'high speed' turnouts in the back roads of some yards.
 
Gavin Sowry said:
I can't see one, either.

I'm not too taken with this design...... the sidings are really too short to be of real practical use for other than a small tank loco and very short 4 wheel wagon trains.
My philosophy on points and sidings is basically economics. Points cost lots of money, therefore you should have some justification for them, and that basically is to access a siding that will have a practical use, ie holding a whole train, or serve some prototypical purpose like a private loading siding. I often cringe when I see turnouts (placed prototypically) being 'wasted' on trap points/runaway tracks. Also cringeworthy, is the use of 'high speed' turnouts in the back roads of some yards.
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Yep, I agree with the cost of points - and the pointless use of points - I think Sarah has already managed to grab a few second hand, which she is repairing and bringing up to scratch, and I don't think she's into long trains just yet ;);)
 
Rhinochugger said:
and I don't think she's into long trains just yet ;);)
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Just into longing for trains? ;)

Sarah Winfield said:
The 2 terminii were bought into the centre with the idea, in the future of combining the station trackwork, and having trains coming into it from either direction and being able to depart again via either loop. (I appreciate there will be some kind of reverse electrics to sort but it should only be 1).
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No real need for trains to be able to exit in both directions into the loop (avoiding the reverse electrics), it can be one terminus with an Up and Down side to a main platform, as I suggested above. Further expansion is still available by adding outer platforms to the terminus passing loops.

I think it's an excellent setup with loads of running potential, and the one thing I cannot get - a bit of roundy-roundy!
 
In my imagination I had this idea of trains arriving into either platform and being able to leave to go "North" via right hand loop in a clockwise direction or "South" by the left hand loop in an anti-clockwise direction.

Bit like Newcastle Central, as an example only slightly smaller.

Are my eyes bigger than my tummy if you understand the analogy?

SW
 
Sarah Winfield said:
In my imagination I had this idea of trains arriving into either platform and being able to leave to go "North" via right hand loop in a clockwise direction or "South" by the left hand loop in an anti-clockwise direction.

Bit like Newcastle Central, as an example only slightly smaller.

Are my eyes bigger than my tummy if you understand the analogy?

SW
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I reckon you could run 6 trains before having to invoke the 'hand of God' :nod::nod:
 
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