First Sighting Of New Version Feldbahn Steamer (lgb)?

The price looks sensible as well.
 
OOOPSIE.... my finger just slipped on the keyboard and I seem to have bought one.... not from the link I gave above, I looked a bit further and found that Der Lokschuppen Dortmund - one of my favoured German suppliers who I've had great service and prices from in the past - had one at 179.99 Euros, plus 20 Euros shipping to the UK - end result is that total cost after Paypal currency conversion and shipping came to about £152, which I reckon is pretty reasonable! I would guess that once they arrive here via HobbyCo, they will be nearer £199.....
Ebay.de is promising delivery on New Year's Eve, we'll see if they make it....

I will keep everyone informed! :)

Jon.
 
Now those prices do seem reasonable. Unlike the pricing coming from Marklin/LGB recently.
 
Arthur Aardvark said:
Page 10,
https://www.champex-linden.de/download_lgb_pi_2015/bda_fahrzeuge/24140_Dampflok KJF.pdf
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Thanks Arthur.... that is both interesting and puzzling at the same time.... looking at the exploded diagram on P.10 of the leaflet, I can see no physical connection between the two axles apart from the external side rods; in fact it looks to me to be exactly like the "old" feldbahn gearbox with the drive belt omitted. Could it be that M/LGB's much-promoted "redesign" of the mechanism is simply leaving the belt out, so that the rear axle is driven from the motor worm and the front axle is only driven via the side rods?

I had expected some kind of driveshaft to have been added between front and rear axles, maybe with bevel gears or a multiple-idler-gear setup, but it looks like they may have simply not bothered.... can anyone else put a different interpretation on that parts diagram?

It will be interesting to see how it runs when it arrives here!

Jon.
 
quote from page 9

"This model may only be used with the operating system designed for it."

So blow it up with any other make and its your fault!
 
stockers said:
quote from page 9

"This model may only be used with the operating system designed for it."

So blow it up with any other make and its your fault!
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LGB have always had that disclaimer, Alan, right from the early days - use anything other than an LGB power and control system and they can duck out of the warranty.... ;)

Jon.
 
True, but with the reports regarding damage and problems with the CS2 and MFX - its a worry.
 
stockers said:
True, but with the reports regarding damage and problems with the CS2 and MFX - its a worry.
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Mm, I know what you mean - but in this case as the loco is a simple analogue one it should be OK, at least they haven't MFX-chipped this one..... I'll most likely put a Massoth M in it like I've done with the earlier incarnations of the same loco, and maybe squeeze an S into the coal bunker.

Jon.
 
Zerogee said:
... I can see no physical connection between the two axles apart from the external side rods... Could it be that M/LGB's much-promoted "redesign" of the mechanism is simply leaving the belt out, so that the rear axle is driven from the motor worm and the front axle is only driven via the side rods?

Jon.
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Yeah looks that way to me too.
 
ntpntpntp said:
Yeah looks that way to me too.
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Has anyone on here ever tried to run an old-type Feldbahn loco that way, maybe after breaking a drive belt? I've always thought that there is technically no reason why it shouldn't run, provided the side rods are up to the job.
Just MAYBE M/LGB has re-engineered the main connecting rods, perhaps they are now metal rather than bendy plastic....? Ah well, I'll be able to tell you all in a few days! ;)

Jon.
 
Zerogee said:
LGB have always had that disclaimer, Alan, right from the early days - use anything other than an LGB power and control system and they can duck out of the warranty.... ;)

Jon.
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I think that's down to the compromise of any G scale power supply.
How do you provide a unit capable of delivering enough power for multi loco multi motor systems with coach lights, smoke units et al that trips before any damage to the most sensitive component? Too sensitive and it's a pain, not enough and magic smoke appears.

However I'm not sure if LGB's conditions would be upheld in a court of law. I'm certainly not willing to finance a test case!!! :eek:
 
Very true Neil, but I think these days chopping rates and pulsed what-evers are more significant than the brute force. let alone complications with DCC (or similar!)
 
Neil Robinson said:
I think that's down to the compromise of any G scale power supply.
How do you provide a unit capable of delivering enough power for multi loco multi motor systems with coach lights, smoke units et al that trips before any damage to the most sensitive component? Too sensitive and it's a pain, not enough and magic smoke appears.

However I'm not sure if LGB's conditions would be upheld in a court of law. I'm certainly not willing to finance a test case!!! :eek:
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Most modern decoders have overload and short circuit protection built into them now Neil.
They're not impossible to fry but you do have to make a real effort or be really unlucky to cook one :-)
 
well, having an undue fondness for FRR locos, and having several of the old steam and diesels

first, given the cost of changing molds of this loco chassis significantly, I am skeptical of any real change, ie, both axels driven by the motor, as I can think of no way to do this and maintain boiler clearance. It will sell just as well as the old ones did, whatever that means. From my internet wanderings, they do not have a bad reputation. So, I am not sure how much Marklin would invest in a a re-engineer, other than the cost of type setting the catalog, and , perhaps as mentioned, removing a part.....

second, given that side rods need play, often quite a lot, if not for curves on this model but for quartering ease, and that metal has long been history with LGB for its side rods, I would be very surprised if 'functional side rods" were the new engineering. It would essentially transfer a new problem to the plastic boss protrusions for side rods, which I imagine would wear down and be sliced the wheel off entirely in time, but for metal bushings, etc .

third, simply, these locos are, compared to other LGB offerings, imho somewhat delicate, and they cannot handle very much in terms of load and stress, given the single worm-to-axel configuration. I would change my thinking if these became metal gears, but oh the noise.........

I would love to know what exactly if different from first hand evaluation and comparison of the new and old locos.......
 
stevedenver said:
well, having an undue fondness for FRR locos, and having several of the old steam and diesels........
.............. I would love to know what exactly if different from first hand evaluation and comparison of the new and old locos.......
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Well, I've had the emails to say that mine is on its way to me, due for delivery here on New Year's Eve.... so hopefully in a couple of days I will be able to answer all the questions! ;)

Jon.
 
My older steam and "Jonny" dieselloks seem quite robust - they have both hauled 12 binny skips on the Linz Gstadt Bahn.
BTW the side rods are metal on Jonny.........

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