Oh dear,why do you want to play with trains,BECAUSE I DO,what people think about our hobby is their affair,my sons are into football,I would prefere to watch paint dry or concrete go off,cant stand it but they are not into modelling at all,personal choice,don`t be swayed by other people,do your own thing and if it gives you pleasure and uses up your time as you want to spend it,what`s wrong with that and of course all of us on here can`t be all wrong,go for it Alan,great bunch on here will help you along,,,as for Big Haulers,I have 6,great locos as long as you look after them,their biggest problem I have found is uneven trackwork,if it`s there trust me they will find it,as for being toy like,in my opinion no,with maybe one exception,the circus locos,red,white,blue and gold are a little loud but the normal road names are fine,I will add a pic of a ex circus loco that I have transferred into something more subtle,it`s been posted before so no apologies there but just to show what can be done,GO ON YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO,good luck,,,,,Rio