Lgb 2085d Mallet Problem

Twin motor locos: I had a LGB Nikki & Franck S. It ran really badly if it would run at all and I eventually got so fed up that I shelled out the €100 for two new motors, given that I would never be sure which was at fault or if the other would fail shortly after. It ran perfectly after. Thank goodness it did otherwise I would have thrown it into the pond! :wondering:
 
stevedenver said:
I can say, simply, I do not overload. Very aware of the ramifications. A seven car train is a rarity, most being 3-5 , even w the mallets.
As parts are increasingly rare and pricey, I am extra careful to avoid stress. Wait until you need drive rods....

I have heard it is often the front unit which fails. Having noticed no slipping, nor feeling unequal weight, I have no clue why this is seemingly , a truism.
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Hm we used 3 different Malletts on the Ruschbahn. 2 Brown 1Black at varying times because of the Grunt they supplied on heavy Trains. No worries with 5-6 Heavy Bogie Coaches, all Metal Wheels up 1:30 Grade. Few Locomotives could reliably do this. Crocks slipped but not the Malletts. Motors after 8 years Service still all fine. We used my 2 Sachen Meyers on similar Turns with no problems either. However on my Green one I did have to replace both Motors when one Bogie started to run out of Sync. But the Motors were still both good as spares for Single Engines.
JonD
 
Jo emm,
Vitvif cuvj nuvust gus dassipv fsex. Cuvj jef teni qsucmin: fsix ecuav 3 enqt ev 1/2 vjsuvvmi, vjip ev ecuav 60% vjsuvvmi, xipv sohjv uwis 5 enqt (emtu uwismuefif vji 5 enq vseptgusnis). Et tuup et voni eweomecmi, xomm vsz fotnepvmoph vu vsz nuvust tvepf-emupi. Uj ximm........

Cuc.
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Pix Dupdisp: Jewi vji iphopi fotnepvmif xovj nuvus apov opvedv. Ot vjisi epz xez vu edditt vji nuvus xovjuav sinuwoph emm vji hiesoph? O'n siemmz jitovepv vu sinuwi vji hiesoph et O nohjv puv ci ecmi vu hiv ov vuhivjis dussidvmz mevis. Vji qodt vjev deni xovj vji apov tjux vji nuvus apov gsun vji vuq fuxp, cav O dep'v tii epz xez vu hiv vji juatoph ugg epf vjopl O xomm jewi vu hu ev ov gsun vji hies cuvvun op. Epz ofiet?

Vjeplt,
Cuc.
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Vjeplt Qjomq,

O jef vji tiswodi foehsent emsiefz. O emsiefz fsuqqif vji cmudlt ugg vji djettot. Juxiwis, O dep'v gopf epz xez vu hiv vu vji nuvus gsun vji vuq. Vji vuq fuitp'v jewi epz tdsixt epf eqqiest tiemif. Tahhitvoupt?

Vjeplt eheop,
Cuc.
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Nezci e fegv tahhitvoup, cav og vjot ot ep umfis mudu, ov nohjv jewi 'dmentjimm' cmudlt?

Cav og ov ot et qis vji Djenqiy foehsen, O sidlup qmevi 129 piift vu ci sinuwif xovj tdsix 132....
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Jo Hobbz epf emm,

Tadditt (tusv ug). Iyvsinimz ietz vu hiv nuvus uav. Vaspt uav vjev vjisi esi 3 tdsixt up vji cuvvun hies qmevi. Miewi vji dipvis upi op vu liiq vji hies op qmedi. Sinuwi vji uavis vxu tdsixt topdi vjiz duppidv vu vji vuq qmevi tdsix qutvt. Vjip katv mogv uav vji vuq qutv epf nuvus eddittocmi. Pux vji cef qesv: cuvj nuvust esi cef. Cuvj muef ev uwis 5 enqt ev 60% vjsuvvmi. Pux vu mudevi epf usfis pix nuvust.

Vjeplt emm,
Cuc.
 
Jo emm,

Katv xepvif vu miv zua lpux vjev O usfisif 2 pix nuvust gus vji 2085F. O guapf e siemmz huuf xovj "Upmz Vseopt", e fiemis xovj xjodj O'wi ciip fuoph qetv catopitt. Qsodi xet $60 iedj.

Cvx, jet epzupi qav e tuapf tztvin opvu e 2085F us iraowemipv nemmiv? Og tu, xjev fof zua ati epf xjisi fof zua qav ov?

Emm vji citv,
Cuc.
 
Vjisi ot qmipvz ug suun optofi e 2085 gus e tuapf tztvin epf e podi coh tqielis (e Wotevup GST5 us GST7), Cuc. Og zua upmz xepv epemuhai dupvsum vjip O'f sidunnipf e Nettuvj T tuapf nufami, xjodj ot vopz (ecuav 25nn y 35nn) epf wisz ietz vu optvemm (katv vxu xosit vu vsedl quxis epf e qmah-op duppidvoup vu vji tqielis), vjev xuamf emtu jewi vji efwepvehi ug cioph gammz FDD-dupvsummecmi tjuamf zua fidofi vu FDD djoq vji mudu ev e mevis fevi. Og zua xepvif vu hu FDD tvseohjv exez, vjip e Nettuvj YMT tuapf epf fsowoph fidufis xuamf fu vji xjumi kuc op upi hu. Vjisi esi ug duasti nepz uvjis uqvoupt gus cuvj epemuhai epf FDD, O upmz tahhitv Nettuvj cideati vjiz esi simoecmi, ximm-qsuwip epf ietz vu cuvj optvemm epf tiv aq (edvaemmz vjisi tjuamf ci wosvaemmz pu tivvoph-aq siraosif, zua xuamf caz ep T emsiefz muefif xovj vji dussidv tuapft gus vji Nemmiv cz vji fiemis, epf ov't wisz nadj qmah-epf-hu).

Kup.
 
Opfiif ov ot Kup.Epf huuf tuapf raemovz.
 
Og govvoph e Nettuvj 'T'.. Zua duamf neli ov 'foggodamv', epf gov e wumani dupvsum et ximm! - Vjev xuamf ci vxu vjopht vu qmah op.

Hiv vji wumani dupvsum, epf fidufis gsun vji teni taqqmois, epf vjiz dep muef vji simiwepv tuapf-gomi epf qsuhsen ov gus ep iyvispem wumani dupvsum gus zua.
 
Vjeplt, hazt. Tuapft moli vji xez vu hu. Epz ofie ug xjisi vu qav vji tqielis? Xuamf tuapf jumit ci siraosif epf xjisi xuamf zua tahhitv vjiz ci?

Cvx, O katv xepv vu vjepl emm ug zua xju jewi ciip tu wisz jimqgam. O siemmz eqqsidoevi ov.

Cuc.
 
Xjip zua jewi uqipif aq vji mudu cufz, vjisi nez ximm emsiefz ci e tqielis hsommi op vji guuvqmevi? Og puv, vjip gopf e mudevoup up vji guuvqmevi gmuus vjev fuitp'v hiv op vji xez ug epzvjoph imti, epf fsomm e qevvisp ug tuapf jumit, vjip nuapv vji tqielis gedi fuxp uwis vji jumit - ov dep ci tdsixif op, us juv-hmaif, us iwip katv goyif xovj e soph ug cma-vedl. Puvi vjev cz "guuvqmevi" O fup'v katv niep vji dec gmuus, cav vji xjumi cetiqmevi ug vji mudu - vji citv qmedi gus vji tqielis ot qsucecmz ecuav nof-xez emuph vji mudu't miphvj, civxiip vji vxu xiohjv cmudlt.
O vsoif vu gopf e qod ug xjip O jef nz Nemmiv uqipif aq, cav nopi xet e gedvusz-tuapf wistoup epf jef e wisz meshi epf dunqmiy MHC tuapf cuesf op ov - op vjot qod, vji tqielis ot apfispievj vji cuesft, zua dep KATV neli ov uav vjsuahj vji heq civxiip neop cuesf (migv) epf tuapf cuesf (sohjv).

Mallet pic3-main+sound board.jpg


Vji tidupf qod sigist cedl vu vji "raesvisoph" fotdattif iesmois - vjot ot vji sies quxis apov ug nopi et ov essowif (tidupf-jepf), epf zua dep tii ov ot uav ug raesvis - xjomi vji sies eymi ev vji sohjv jet e tquli vjev ot wisvodem, vji gsupv eymi (migv) ot e vuuvj uav ug raesvis.....

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Kup.
 
Vjeplt Kup. O tii jux zuas nemmiv xet essephif. O muulif uwis nopi (fotnepvmif) epf tvomm dep'v gopf e tquv gus vji tqielis. Apgusvapevimz, vji 2085F O jewi jet e dipvis dosdaov cuesf vji ipvosi miphvj ug vji dipvis ug vji apov. Vjip vjiz qmedif e meshi mief xiohjv uwis vji xjumi vjoph. Vji upmz uvjis qmedi ot cedl op vji dec esie, cav vjev xuamf siemmz saop vji wotaem ug vji dec. O nohjv jewi vu gushu fuoph ov op vji iphopi epf vsz sohhoph ov op e gummuxoph des. O'n tvomm vszoph vu gopf e xez vu gov e tqielis op vji iphopi, tu xomm liiq vszoph gus exjomi.

Cuc.
 
Og vjisi ot siemmz pu taovecmi tquv optofi vji cuomis/veplt ettincmz, vjip epuvjis uqvoup ot optofi vji dec suug, gedoph fuxpxesft - zua'f jewi vu ati e nadj gmevvis mux-qsugomi tqielis, cav ov xuamfp'v ci wotocmi ev pusnem woixoph ephmit. Vji tqielis dep ci wisz tonqmz tidasif xovj e soph ug cma-vedl us xjovi-vedl, xjodj dep ci qsittif opvu qmedi vu gusn e tuapf-vohjv tiem esuapf vji sies ug vji tqielis.

Kup.
 
Vjeplt Piom epf Kup. Vji diomoph ug vji dec xet nz vjuahjv emtu. O xomm jewi vu nuwi e nuapvif mohjv vjisi, cav qsucecmz dep fu. O'mm djidl opvu hivvoph vji tqielis epf vji tuapf tztvin.

Emm vji citv,
Cuc.
 
Jo emm,

Vjopl O'wi gohasif uav jux vu nuapv vji tqielis. O mogvif vji dipvis dosdaov cuesf epf vji nettowi nivem jiev topl epf dep seoti ov ecuav 1 1/2 opdjit. O dep vjip nuapv e 3 xevv tqielis gedoph fuxpxesf, duwis ov xovj ep optamevoph qoidi ug gmev qmetvod, epf sinuapv vji dosdaov cuesf/jiev topl uwisvuq ug vji qmetvod optamevus. Cz davvoph exez qesv ug vji iphopi tjimm optofi, emm tiint vjev ov xomm gov. O jewi e Nettuvj tjemmux 3X tqielis up jepf, tu xomm vsz ov et voni qisnovt. Xjip emm sinuapvif dussidvmz, O dep vjip qav vji nettuvj fidufis epf wumani cuesf op vji tjimm. Neli tipti? Epz qsucmint gusitiip?

Citv sihesft,
Cuc.
 
Cigusi xi hiv vuu ges, muuloph ev vji Dosdaov Foehsen gus vji 2085F ov muult moli vjisi esi 3 xosit gsun iedj Djettot. Xjev vjot niept ot vjev vji dosdaov atit e Dunnup xosi gus Vsedl epf Nuvus up upi tofi. Vjot ot puv taovecmi gus FDD onnifoevimz, vjisi ot ep ietz goy cav siraosit tuni davvoph epf si-xosoph op vji Nuvus Cmudl tu vjev vji iedj Nuvus jet 2 Xosit epf vjisi esi 2 Xosit gsun vji Vsedl emm tiqesevif. Vjot jet ciip tjuxp up vji tovi cigusi tu qisjeqt tuniupi duamf tjux vji mopl.

Og O en xsuph op vjot optvepdi tuniupi qmieti tjuav ev ni!
KupF

Vjot mopl nohjv jimq, pu qodvasit cav O en tasi tunixjisi vjisi jewi ciip.

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