Making a New Start
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OK, guys, I'll leave the oil contamination where it is.
Meanwhile I have identified a new job. Having found a reprint of a nineteenth century book about narrow gauge lines in the USA I've got a better idea of how much freight cars weighed when empty, and the sort of loads they could carry. In consequence I realise that my little 4-wheeled hoppers are lettered up for far too heavy a load. I guess 1 ton for the small ones and between two and three tons for the larger ones would be nearer the mark.
Can anyone tell me what the Iron Mountain coal cars (on which I based my design) were rated at?
Meanwhile I have identified a new job. Having found a reprint of a nineteenth century book about narrow gauge lines in the USA I've got a better idea of how much freight cars weighed when empty, and the sort of loads they could carry. In consequence I realise that my little 4-wheeled hoppers are lettered up for far too heavy a load. I guess 1 ton for the small ones and between two and three tons for the larger ones would be nearer the mark.
Can anyone tell me what the Iron Mountain coal cars (on which I based my design) were rated at?
Just looking at the pictures I took the other day, and oops! Just discovered a bit of raw baseboard peeking through.
Meanwhile I've been painting some of the recent arrivals on the layout: some RR staff at both depots and three ladies at Hogwood who were in need of a fashion make-over; this is now in hand. Pictures soon.
Meanwhile I've been painting some of the recent arrivals on the layout: some RR staff at both depots and three ladies at Hogwood who were in need of a fashion make-over; this is now in hand. Pictures soon.
vsmith said:A little lichen covers alot of sins
Read that just after covering the offending area with a scrap of expanded polystyrene insulation tile, painted to look like earth - the area is supposed to be a dirt alleyway running between the store and the buildings on the back-scene
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Some pictures of our two new RR employees, first the Agent at Hogwood
Next, his colleague at Cattewater, who is trying to attrract the attention of the guys on the icing platform behind the depot.
.......and finally a new passenger. I had to do quite a bit of work on her hairdo as she came looking like an extra from "Dallas" - far too 1980s for the C&S. The big hair down to the shoulders was chopped off, and the hairline lifted off the forehead and at the sides. Don't know if it's an authentic 1940s look now, but to me it looks more back-dated than before. I also painted in a blouse under her jacket.
Next, his colleague at Cattewater, who is trying to attrract the attention of the guys on the icing platform behind the depot.
.......and finally a new passenger. I had to do quite a bit of work on her hairdo as she came looking like an extra from "Dallas" - far too 1980s for the C&S. The big hair down to the shoulders was chopped off, and the hairline lifted off the forehead and at the sides. Don't know if it's an authentic 1940s look now, but to me it looks more back-dated than before. I also painted in a blouse under her jacket.
Giles, your line is taking on a completely believable look with figures that appear to be real people. I know you give them names that makes it even more so. Great stuff.
One day do you think that you could print the Switch Lists for a complete running session ( i did see one in the Operating Thread but that was pretty well unreadable). I do them on my line, but get confusion from my one regular operator. It may be just him as he has never been involved with trying to run a Railway in this before. Then again it may be the way that I present the Switch Lists.
JonD
One day do you think that you could print the Switch Lists for a complete running session ( i did see one in the Operating Thread but that was pretty well unreadable). I do them on my line, but get confusion from my one regular operator. It may be just him as he has never been involved with trying to run a Railway in this before. Then again it may be the way that I present the Switch Lists.
JonD
Jon,
I don't have switch-lists as such. I use a small pocket (like an old-fashioned library ticket) for each car into which I can put a waybill. These are printed out in A4 sheets which makes up into six different loads, when cut out, folded over and glued back to back so that theres an "Empty To...." side and on the other face the details of the consignment, the originating depot (and track spot) as well as the loaded car's destination. I tried a photo in post #100 but there's a bit too much reflective glare from the flash to make out the details clearly, so here's a sample page of six waybills
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Then it's just a case of selecting appropriate cars for each train in the timetable and seeing what happens. If a car is dropped off en-route there will hopefully be another that can be picked up to fill the train's consist for the next stage of its journey. However this doesn't always work out and the yards can get rather crowded occasionally.
Edit
Sorry the page of waybills hasn't come out well. I'll try and re-shoot as a photo over the next few days and will re-post asap.
I don't have switch-lists as such. I use a small pocket (like an old-fashioned library ticket) for each car into which I can put a waybill. These are printed out in A4 sheets which makes up into six different loads, when cut out, folded over and glued back to back so that theres an "Empty To...." side and on the other face the details of the consignment, the originating depot (and track spot) as well as the loaded car's destination. I tried a photo in post #100 but there's a bit too much reflective glare from the flash to make out the details clearly, so here's a sample page of six waybills
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Then it's just a case of selecting appropriate cars for each train in the timetable and seeing what happens. If a car is dropped off en-route there will hopefully be another that can be picked up to fill the train's consist for the next stage of its journey. However this doesn't always work out and the yards can get rather crowded occasionally.
Edit
Sorry the page of waybills hasn't come out well. I'll try and re-shoot as a photo over the next few days and will re-post asap.
Dtsteam
G Scale, Travel, Steam Boats, Mechanical Music
With the waybill system, how do you allocate waybills to cars ? or does each car always follow the same pathway ?
I'm afraid you haven't got time to tidy the modelling desk - according to Carl Arendts latest missive http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page106/index.html#lazyriver you're supposed to be 'weathering & detailing'
Nice layout by the way.
I'm afraid you haven't got time to tidy the modelling desk - according to Carl Arendts latest missive http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page106/index.html#lazyriver you're supposed to be 'weathering & detailing'
Nice layout by the way.
Shawn
Hiking, cross country skiing, snowshoeing
Thats is a great looking layout. Has a lot of great scenes. All the little details bring it to life. Can you take a shot of the entire layout? Makes we want to shrink in size and walk around the RR. I would be very comfortable living in cattewater and Hogwood.
Answering in reverse order - the show is five weeks away so I'm not panicing ....yet. The tidying needs to be done as the table doubles as Dispatcher's desk for operating sessions and there is to be one this week-end.Dtsteam said:With the waybill system, how do you allocate waybills to cars ? or does each car always follow the same pathway ?
I'm afraid you haven't got time to tidy the modelling desk - according to Carl Arendts latest missive http://www.carendt.com/scrapbook/page106/index.html#lazyriver you're supposed to be 'weathering & detailing'
Allocation of waybills to cars is done by the Dispatcher before each session. The car cards for all depots are checked and any that are deemed to be delivered and unloaded have the waybill removed and replaced by another. How this is done is still evolving with experience. If a yard is overcrowded a specific waybill may be found to ensure a move by the next train. Otherwise one is picked at random (they are designated by car type) and if it is for a loaded trip from another station, the car is run empty to pick up the load. As with a real rail system the nearest available car is chosen when running empty. Normally a loaded car, once delivered, is not re-used that same session, (though it might need to be pulled out and replaced during switching moves) while an empty car arriving early in the day might go out again loaded during the same day, depending on the commodity being carried.
This way the car is unlikely to follow the same path twice, and train loadings and consist also vary from session to session in theory; in practice with limited yard space and short trains (brought about by the limited space available), they tend to run at or near capacity. Hope this helps.
Shawn said:
Three shots just about covers it. Sorry it's rather a "warts-and-all" tour; cropped close-ups look a lot better.
This is Cattewater, the hub of the railroad. The line to the left of the platform runs into the staging yard representing Clydes Creek.
The country section
A view of Hogwood Junction; the lines divide opposite the switchman's shanty next to the oil tanks. The caboose is standing on one of the staging tracks that represent Southvale and Bonneyville.
Some pictures to go with post #253
This one shows the complete waybill, made up with the car's "pocket" and a loading slip. One of these shows that the car is an Empty running to pick up a load elsewhere, while the other has a load of canned goods on board.
A couple of loading slips. The number opposite the car type was going to be used as a loading delay, the higher the number the longer a car would take to load. Each operating session a dice was to be thrown and only loads with a similar or lower number would be moved. In use this resulted in too much stagnation, which was not desirable with a relatively small number of cars and limited room in the line's yards.
The idea was taken from a friend's layout where there is more siding space.
This one shows the complete waybill, made up with the car's "pocket" and a loading slip. One of these shows that the car is an Empty running to pick up a load elsewhere, while the other has a load of canned goods on board.
A couple of loading slips. The number opposite the car type was going to be used as a loading delay, the higher the number the longer a car would take to load. Each operating session a dice was to be thrown and only loads with a similar or lower number would be moved. In use this resulted in too much stagnation, which was not desirable with a relatively small number of cars and limited room in the line's yards.
The idea was taken from a friend's layout where there is more siding space.
Dtsteam said:
So as to keep things moving the fact that a car has been delivered in the previous session means it can have another waybill allocated (empty or full, as appropriate) If the former, then two trips will have been generated.
Re: your earlier posting: box ticked! Modelling table becomes Dispatcher's desk. One of the small filing boxes holds the spare loading slips and the other the waybills, sorted by depots. The transparent business-card holders are used to hold the train orders, and the chart is the train graph, that can be inked in as the session progresses to keep a check on the whereabouts of the various trains.
Shawn
Hiking, cross country skiing, snowshoeing
C&S said:OK, guys, I'll leave the oil contamination where it is.
Meanwhile I have identified a new job. Having found a reprint of a nineteenth century book about narrow gauge lines in the USA I've got a better idea of how much freight cars weighed when empty, and the sort of loads they could carry. In consequence I realise that my little 4-wheeled hoppers are lettered up for far too heavy a load. I guess 1 ton for the small ones and between two and three tons for the larger ones would be nearer the mark.
Can anyone tell me what the Iron Mountain coal cars (on which I based my design) were rated at?
Giles I really like the way these ore cars came out. I have always lliked the Iron Mt ones but never willing to pay that much for them. What did you use to make these? (looks like a HLW flat) did you use plans or just eyeball it? Im thinking about making a set.
Shawn, NENG did the plans years ago for GR...
http://www.sidestreetbannerworks.com/railways/plans.html
17 and 56 are what you are looking for.
I have the plans here somewhere. The ready to run ones from (in)Accucraft lack slope sheets, and are just a box. The top model has them enclosed, they can be left open as was done often in the real world. Note the drop door also.
http://www.sidestreetbannerworks.com/railways/plans.html
17 and 56 are what you are looking for.
I have the plans here somewhere. The ready to run ones from (in)Accucraft lack slope sheets, and are just a box. The top model has them enclosed, they can be left open as was done often in the real world. Note the drop door also.