1950s Morris Oxfords still being built in India; 1960s Fiat 124s and 125s built in Poland and Russia (Ladas were sold as Polski-Fiat at first)... SEAT in Spain also built Fiat 500s/600s badged as "SEATs"...wasn't the first Hyundai model in UK a previous version of a Vauxhall? All legitimately acquired tooling...not so easy to sort all this out.
Buyer beware, far east 'copies' listed as LGB in the title
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nicebutdim
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Just had a look at his other items, he's selling 12 in mixed colours for £204! Temptation is twisting my arm to the point of dislocation now!
Miamigo259
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nicebutdim said:
Have a dig through the "Kitbashing" thread as several of us have posted a variety of conversion jobs on the NQ ones!
duncan1_9_8_4 said:
It is certainly a problem in that LGB is being used in the same way for 1:22.5 G scale as 'Hoover' is for vac cleaners. This is something however that should be addressed by LGB or Maerklin ? although there is nothing wrong with an individual complaining about an ebay listing. I never personally trust anyone who cannot be *rsed to get their spelling right however...
nicebutdim said:
They are nowhere near the quality of L*B and one would not confuse one of these models with any of the German stuff if you have a look at it ? having said that, the rolling stock is well worth a punt and is very good for modifying and improving.Would not bother with the locomotive ? except for a child ? or again if you want to do some work on it yourself.
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nicebutdim said:
IMHO they are reasonable value for money. The plastic isn't as forgiving of abuse as original LGB stuff, so more likely to break if accidentally dropped. However I suspect it may be more compatible with plastic adhesives than the LGB stuff so easier to repair.
I chose to fit Bachmann metal wheels and LGB coupling springs, as I did this without problem I imagine there will be little if any difficulty in fitting replacement parts of one brand to the other.
I respectfully suggest you purchase at least one example and draw your own conclusions. Should you be disappointed I feel confident you would be able to sell it on without difficulty or much financial loss.
Regarding the spelling of Shall, I suspect this and other differences, such as TB for DB on the coaches, may have something to do with copyright or similar issues with registered brand names.
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I do notice that much of what is described and advertised on Ebay would probably justify a prosecution by Trading Standards against a High Street retailer.
One particular comment is often misleading to newcomers to the hobby: that is the suggestion that it is rare or no longer available. Whilst of small consequence for rolling stock it is significant when applied to locomotives. Most manufacturers make improvements/upgrades and newer locos are preferable to oder ones in my view. An instance of this is that older Aristo-Craft locos do not have the battery connector for a trailing car option that those made in recent years have. Reference to this fitting, or lack of it, is often not mentioned in the sellers description.
One particular comment is often misleading to newcomers to the hobby: that is the suggestion that it is rare or no longer available. Whilst of small consequence for rolling stock it is significant when applied to locomotives. Most manufacturers make improvements/upgrades and newer locos are preferable to oder ones in my view. An instance of this is that older Aristo-Craft locos do not have the battery connector for a trailing car option that those made in recent years have. Reference to this fitting, or lack of it, is often not mentioned in the sellers description.
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nicebutdim said:
I bought five Shalls from STO earlier this year, and it's a very reasonable way to get a long tanker train fast.
I also pulled off the spout and drilled into the wagon to make it functional.
I had to seal the entire tank with plastic glue, I used Humbrol's liquid stuff. And this plastic works very well with ordinary plastic glue.
I also have repainted one and will repaint the others.
My conclusion is:
They look cheap and the plastic is somewhat 'transparent'.
But if you plan on repainting or modifying stuff it's better value than cutting up an LGB item. And the glue and paint works better on the NQD/Amax as well
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Neil Robinson said:
I would second all the above, the plastic isn't the high-tech stuff that LGB use, but it still seems plenty strong enough for sensible use; with the simple addition of Bachmann metal wheelsets (at a cost of about £6 per wagon) they are improved a lot. I have a rake of 3 coaches, 4 tank cars (differently marked from those currently on ebay - mine are red with "UDC Chemical" logos and yellow with "Central Oil" - quite acceptably generic in my opinion) and 4 of the flat cars - the only one out of that lot that has a problem is that one of the flats is slightly twisted longitudinally - but nothing that running it with a load on top won't fix.
The other point is that while I'm very reluctant to apply weathering to an £80 LGB tank car, I would do it to an £18 NQ one without hesitation!
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Zerogee said:
This is exactly the thought that I was having. I do have some LGB tankers, but would never consider spoiling them. Whereas I would have no issue with experimenting with used engine oil and matt varnish on one (or a few) of these. I wonder if they could be converted to look like milk tankers, sprayed white and 'United Dairys' lettered on the side. Hmmmmmmmmmmm......
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LGB prices are a bit stiff for my budget. (even used cars cost double or more, than Newqida)
so i used to buy playmobil cars for bashing.
now for the price of playmobil i can get something that needs less alterations, till it looks similar to the expensive LGBs.
if i judge by the (used) LGB locos, that i buy, the newer items seem to be lacking the quality, we all expect from LGB.
so, if i get cheap chinese junk anyhow, why should i still pay the german prices?
so i used to buy playmobil cars for bashing.
now for the price of playmobil i can get something that needs less alterations, till it looks similar to the expensive LGBs.
if i judge by the (used) LGB locos, that i buy, the newer items seem to be lacking the quality, we all expect from LGB.
so, if i get cheap chinese junk anyhow, why should i still pay the german prices?
nicebutdim
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That was intentional, now where is my dictionary...ROSS said:It would certaily look Newquida with United Dairys on the side
nicebutdim said:That was intentional, now where is my dictionary...ROSS said:It would certaily look Newquida with United Dairys on the side
United Diaries? Going to be a bash to get the centre axle in
I just love the way it says 'glass lined' then lower down 'shunt with care'
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