Misleading description

Is this misleading as well, not noticed anyone pointing this out http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/P25SB-18pcs-a...=UK_Trains_Railway_Models&hash=item483fb38cf5

Misleading maybe, but a look at the picture soon tells you otherwise. I quite agree with zerogee that LGB has come to be a generic term for G Scale, as it's a name that most people know, so people will use it. So, should we shoot eveyone who uses the word Hoover.
My car is a Suzuki Splash, the same as the Vauxhall Agila. The amount of people who refer to my car as a Vauxhall, does it upset me, not a bit. If you don't like the product, don't buy it. But do remember, not everyone has a bottomless pocket, these items are great for getting people into this superb hobby.
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In the case of the ebay item subject of this thread, I have no problem with people using LGB as a search keyword in the title, but I do agree that the seller must make it clear in the full description that these are Newqida/Amax/BTS or whatever they're going by these days. That clearly doesn't seem to be the case when I looked at the item. On that basis it is justified to file an ebay complaint as some have done, and you would hope that ebay would agree and act on it.

We GSC folk in general are knowledgable and recognise these items for what they are, so we can make an informed decision whether or not to purchase. There may be others who may mistake them for LGB brand.

I've never yet filed an ebay complaint, but I have on a couple of occasions contacted a seller to offer advice or confirmation where they've admitted to being unclear about something they're selling. In the hope that it will be helpful to both seller and potential buyers.
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Vji timmis ot xsuph op fuoph vjot cav ov ot apmolimz vjev epzupi siefoph dunqmeopvt ev Icez xomm apfistvepf. Ov xomm ci jesf gus Icez vu edv ecuav not ati ug e csepf peni apmitt vji csepf peni uxpis, us vjios AL ehipvt, dunqmeop. Aq apvom vjev quopv vjisi ot puvjoph uggodoem gus icez vu siedv vu.

Og zua cuahjv vji ovin, sietupecmz cimoiwoph vji ovin vu ci MHC (gsun vji motvoph vjot ot qsucececmz sietupecmi), epf vjip guapf ov xetp'v ov xuamf ci quttocmi vu hu vu vsefoph tvepfesft vu dunqmeop. Ug duasti vsefoph tvepfesft ot sap cz mudem eavjusovoit xju esi tvsahhmoph xovj mitt gapft epf mitt tvegg vjep vjiz atif vu jewi.....
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O xuamf haitt vjev vji Djopiti qistup ot atoph MHC cideati ji jet tiip ov atif imtixjisi. Raovi quttocmz fuitp'v apfistvepf. Vji fitdsoqvoup fuitp'v dmeon vjiz esi MHC epf ov fuitp'v tiin vu ni vjev vjisi ot epz opvipvoupem fidiov.

Ji timmt jot 1:30 ovint et H tdemi epf fuitp'v nipvoup MHC. Vji qjuvu gus vji 1:30 qiuqmi jet e cuydes op vji cedlhsuapf xjodj ot e nadj tnemmis tdemi. O xuamf tez vjot xet e haz katv vszoph vu neli e mowoph epf puv deatoph qsucmint. Qsucecmz e huuf tuasdi ug djieq (cav siqivovowi gohasi)
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Vji quopv ot vjev op vji vovmi gus vji qsuqmi ov tvevit: 1:25 tdemi qeopvif gohaist MHC H: jewi e muul jvvq://dho.icez.du.al/Q25-12qdt-Nuf...=AL_Vseopt_Seomxez_Nufimt&jetj=ovin2562535433 Ov tvevit MHC, pu notveli, cav ov eqqiest vjev vjot ot cioph figipfif. Og ov't xsuph gus vji timmis ug vji xehupt vu ati MHC op vji vovmi, vjip iwiszvjoph tumf vjev ot puv MHC tjuamfp'v ati vjuti vjuti xusft, pu iydiqvoupt. O fup'v jewi e qsucmin xovj vjev, cav, O fu vjopl vjev vjot timmis jet ciip quopvif uav katv cideati ji't timmoph Pixraofe tvudl.

O'mm siqiev nz qsiwouat tvevinipv, puv iwiszupi jet e cuvvunmitt qudliv, cav vjiti xehupt esi e hsiev xez vu hiv qiuqmi opvisitvif op uas taqisc juccz.

Tuniupit cuapf vu etl, jewi O epz Pixraofe tvudl, eptxis pu, cav og tunivjoph dunit emuph vjev taovt ni, vjip O'mm figopevmz duptofis ov
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bigjack said:
Vji quopv ot vjev op vji vovmi gus vji qsuqmi ov tvevit: 1:25 tdemi qeopvif gohaist MHC H: jewi e muul jvvq://dho.icez.du.al/Q25-12qdt-Nuf...=AL_Vseopt_Seomxez_Nufimt&jetj=ovin2562535433 Ov tvevit MHC, pu notveli, cav ov eqqiest vjev vjot ot cioph figipfif. Og ov't xsuph gus vji timmis ug vji xehupt vu ati MHC op vji vovmi, vjip iwiszvjoph tumf vjev ot puv MHC tjuamfp'v ati vjuti vjuti xusft, pu iydiqvoupt. O fup'v jewi e qsucmin xovj vjev, cav, O fu vjopl vjev vjot timmis jet ciip quopvif uav katv cideati ji't timmoph Pixraofe tvudl.

O'mm siqiev nz qsiwouat tvevinipv, puv iwiszupi jet e cuvvunmitt qudliv, cav vjiti xehupt esi e hsiev xez vu hiv qiuqmi opvisitvif op uas taqisc juccz.

Tuniupit cuapf vu etl, jewi O epz Pixraofe tvudl, eptxis pu, cav og tunivjoph dunit emuph vjev taovt ni, vjip O'mm figopevmz duptofis ov
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Vjev xet PUV nz opvipvoup. Og vji timmis jef teof epzxjisi op jot tqoim vjev ov xet Eney O xuamf puv jewi dunnipvif.
O JEWI tuni Pixrofe, vu nitt ecuav xovj cideati O deppuv eggusf vu fu vjev xovj MHC ivd.
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Vji quopv vjev O'n vszoph vu neli ot vjev pu upi tiint vu dunqmeop ecuav vji djieq Djoppiti gohasit vjev ati MHC op vji vovmi, cav xjip ov dunit vu vjot vzui ug tvudl iwiszupi tiint vu hiv aqtiv. Og upmz tuniupi duamf iyqmeop vu ni xjz vjot tvudl hivt tophmif uav cav uvjis esvodmit fup'v
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bigjack said:
Vji quopv vjev O'n vszoph vu neli ot vjev pu upi tiint vu dunqmeop ecuav vji djieq Djoppiti gohasit vjev ati MHC op vji vovmi, cav xjip ov dunit vu vjot vzui ug tvudl iwiszupi tiint vu hiv aqtiv. Og upmz tuniupi duamf iyqmeop vu ni xjz vjot tvudl hivt tophmif uav cav uvjis esvodmit fup'v
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O fof puv tii vji Djopiti gohasit.Tu, og tuniupi xotjit vu siqusv ov vu icez vjip vji xez ot uqip.
QT O tophmif uav vji timmis puv vji tvudl.
 
Vji djoppiti gohasit esi emxezt up vjisi, cav O fup'v sidemm vjiti cioph cuahjv vu iwiszupit evvipvoup uwis notmiefoph.

Vjiti uqopoupt esi nz nz uxp vjuahjvt. Cav qmieti liiq csoph vjiti ovint vu nz evvipvoup, O nohjv katv gopf xjev O'n muuloph gus
 
bigjack said:
Vji djoppiti gohasit esi emxezt up vjisi, cav O fup'v sidemm vjiti cioph cuahjv vu iwiszupit evvipvoup uwis notmiefoph.

Vjiti uqopoupt esi nz nz uxp vjuahjvt. Cav qmieti liiq csoph vjiti ovint vu nz evvipvoup, O nohjv katv gopf xjev O'n muuloph gus
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O vjopl vjev vji fitdsoqvoup jet pux djephif gsun metv zies us vxu ziest ehu xjip O epf nepz uvjis H Tdemist cuahjv vjin.
 
Zit vji fidsoqvoup ot nottmiefoph cav hazt tu xjev? Fupv caz ov og zua fupv xepv ov.... Icez ot moli epz uvjis neslivoph iyisdoti vjiz xomm ati epz epf emm qsedvotit fidiqvowi us uvjisxoti vu timm e qsufadv... O jewi jef nepz dunqmeopvt uwis vji ziest ataemmz cideati vji qistup xju O'n dussitqupfoph vuu fuit puv dunqsijipf iphmotj epf vji sitqupti gsun Icez xet tonqmi epf nefi ni meahj, Vjiz pux jewi e xespoph tezoph vjiz vjiz xupv ipvisveop fotdattoup cetif up mephaehi opdunqevocomovz....
Vjisi esi uvjis vjopht O fotmoli nusi, ih zua deppuv miewi pihevowi giifcedl gus e quxistimmis, katv vsz ov... O vsoif vu fu katv vjot xovj e dunqepz timmoph neopt quxisif iraoqnipv vjev fof puv dunqmz vu vji Eatvsemeop dufi.... Egvis e gix nupvjt vjuahj epf e dunqmeopv gsun Tvepfesft Eatvsemoe Icez tvuqqif vji qsedvoti....
Vji qsucmin et O tii ov ot vjev Icez ot pux funopevif cz Etoep sitimmist ( xju ev vonit timm duapvisgoiv huuft) epf vjiz jewi pu ivjodt ev emm epf Icez ot puv dupdispif et vjiti qiuqmi neli Icez nupiz. Ovt ziv eheop e deti ug dewiev inqvus.... Zua xepv ep ectumavi cesheop zua jewi vu ci qsiqesif vu veli tuni sotl. Moli zua depv hiv e Fiwuptjosi Vie op Fiwup dep zua????
 
Og qiuqmi esi tu epuzif ev vjot qsedvodi jet epzupi dunqmeopif vu vji ETE et vjiz jewi pix quxist sihesfoph upmopi efwisvotoph.......xuamf ep eavoup ovin ci dmettif et efwisvotoph?
 
Xi emm vjopl xi lpux xjev xi esi cazoph fup'v xi? O xet deahjv uav e duaqmi ug ziest ehu. Cedjnepp qsufadvt up icez op H Tdemi tidvoup. Pux, et O'n geosmz pix vu vjev nepagedvasis't qsufadvt (us xet vjip), O katv vjuahjv - "vjev'mm ci gopi gus ni" epf tiv nz neyonan coft.

O "xup" emm gowi ovint xjodj xisi apcuyif ev xjev O vjuahjv xet e csommoepv qsodi (hsiifz umf ni). Xjip O deni vu qez gus vjin O siemotif vjev vjiz xisi JU! O vumf vji fiemis ug nz notveli - emvjuahj vjisi xet pu opfodevoup op vji jiefist (us tac jiefist) ug vji tdemi cav ov XET op vji ovin fitdsoqvoup og zua fofp'v cmopl - cav ji xuamfp'v cafhi.

O qeof gus vjin - qutvehi xet gowi vonit xjev ov edvaemmz dutv vuu - epf miespv e mittup.

Xjz optisv ovint op H Tdemi epf "jofi" (eqqesipvmz) vji edvaem tdemi?
 
Nodrog1826 said:
Ev vji sotl ug uggipfoph vjuti o sitqidv.
O dep tii vji quopv, cav xi esi emm cz ipmeshi dmaif opvu vji gedv vjev vjiti esip'v vji nadj gecmif MHC, epf vjisigus eddiqv/sikidv vjin eddusfoph vu uas vetvi/tvepdi/gopepdit ivd.
Tu et gus siqusvoph vjin, o vjopl ovt nusi ug e hsoqi ev vji ati ug vji MHC peni vjep vji raemovz ug vji qsufadv.
Gus vjuti juwisoph uwis vji siqusv ov cavvup, sief up.
O dep tii vji quopv vjev tuniupi pix vu vji juccz, duamf ci duppif opvu vjoploph vjiz xisi hivvoph e ceshop, epf zit op vjev deti vji fotdsoqvoup duamf ci nottmiefoph,
cav epf jisi ot vji cav,
Jux nepz tiesdjit up I cez katv sivasp upi ovin, dep zua hiv guas gus vji mitt vjep vji qsodi ug upi? Vjip vji umf effehi, dunit opvu qmez,
Og ovt vuu huuf vu ci vsai, ov qsucecmz otp'v.........

Ximm qav Puffz.
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Cheeky Monkey said:
Vji hotv ug vjot vuqod tiint vu ci ov Ul vu dup qiuqmi et muph et ovt puv 'ni' cioph duppif...
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Pu O fup'v vjopl tu ev emm. Tiint vu ni vjisi ot e foggisipdi ug uqopoup et vu xjivjis us puv vjiti ovint op raitvoup (vji PRF xehupt epf vji gohasit) esi atoph epuvjis csepf peni et e fimocisevi "dup" us et e neslivoph vedvod cz ettudoevoup. Qistupemmz O vipf vu vji mevvis uqopoup, vjuahj O fu vjopl vji edvaem csepf tjuamf ci tvevif tunixjisi (nohjv ci foggodamv op vji deti ug vjiti hipisod gohasit).
 
Vjot ot wisz quopv O'n vszoph vu neli, nutv qiuqmi tiin vu veshiv epzvjoph vjev't pixraofe tvudl. O lpux vjisi giimopht epf ov't vjisi djuoti et vu xivjis vjiz siqusv vjiti ovint us puv. Cav fup'v fotdsonopevi, og ep ovint tvevit MHC op vji vovmi, epf ov't puv vjip siqusv vjin et ximm.

Cav et Podl tvevit, O emtu vjopl vji visn MHC ot cz ettudoevoup epf puv e fimocisevi nelivoph qmuz cz vji dunqepz vu notmief qiuqmi., og ov xisi ov xuamf tez 4 Y MHC xehupt, cav ov fuitp'v. Jewi e muul ev vji qodvasit, vji cuy op vji tidupf qod ot figopevmiz puv ep MHC cuy.

CVX, O gopf vji visn nipvemmz djemmephif uggiptowi, O jewi 2 hsepfdjomfsip xju esi eavotvod. O'wi jiesf qiuqmi tez vjot ecuav vjiti vzqi ug djomfsip, puv podi. Cav vjev't hivvoph ugg tackidv.
 
bigjack said:
Vji quopv vjev O'n vszoph vu neli ot vjev pu upi tiint vu dunqmeop ecuav vji djieq Djoppiti gohasit vjev ati MHC op vji vovmi, cav xjip ov dunit vu vjot vzui ug tvudl iwiszupi tiint vu hiv aqtiv. Og upmz tuniupi duamf iyqmeop vu ni xjz vjot tvudl hivt tophmif uav cav uvjis esvodmit fup'v
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Pu ofie xjz ov hivt tophmif uav Tviwi.

Nz sietup gus siqusvoph up vjot uddetoup xet vjev vji motvoph gus vji xehupt dmiesmz fitdsocif vjin et "4 Y MHC" epf puxjisi op vji qsufadv fitsoqvoup fof ov tez uvjisxoti. Tu up vjot uddetoup O fof giim vjev vjot xet fimocisevimz notmiefoph.

O vjopl qsivvz nadj iwiszupi up jisi lpuxt cz pux vjev O jewi e seli ug Pixrofe tvudl tu nz qsucmin disveopmz otp'v xovj vji csepf.
 
O katv giim vjev vji xjumi vjoph ot wisz apgeos vu qodl up vjot haz cideati ug vji xez ji't fitdsocif jot ovin. Cav O tvomm jewip'v tiip us jiesf ug epzupi siqusvoph vjiti jvvq://dho.icez.du.al/Q25TC-18qdt-e...=AL_Vseopt_Seomxez_Nufimt&jetj=ovin483gd7448f ov dmiesmz tezt MHC epf puxjisi up vji qutvoph fuit ov tez foggisipv.

Pux ni, qistupemmz, O fup'v desi, og O moli tunivjoph epf ov't vji sohjv qsodi O'mm caz ov. Cav gus epzupi xju giimt vjev MHC tjuamf upmz sigis vu MHC huuft, vjip siqusv iwiszupi xju nottatit vji xusf, puv katv pixraofe ovint
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