Behind Closed Doors

[brianthesnail96]

Saying post 51 would have been a lot easier than trying to describe it! That's the one I meant anyway, looks much better to me (much better than a standard Lawley too).

 

[GHWood]

Agreed Grant, what it needs is for someone clever to produce new sideframes to accomodate a front and rear truck

Nick!..........

 

[New Haven Neil]

FYI.....

Mike = GHWood
Nick = Bradypus! A regular visitor to the IoM and a right clever bloke! (OO live steam anyone.....!!!!)

The problem with a trailing truck, is that the space between the frames under the cab is full of r/c receiver and batteries! A leading truck, however, would be OK.......

 

[GHWood]

Just tinkering with the loco this morning, and thanks for the suggestion that to pack out the rear plate, rather than move the body forward to get rid of that overhang. I have given this a try out and it is much easier, for some reason I had the idea that the rear plate was a critical part of the frames, but it is not, or does not seem to be anyway, as it is just bolted on to the battery /r/c box underneath. Luckily I found some long bolts with the correct thread in my box of bits to test the assembly.

 

[GHWood]

Also cut some brass sheet to start on the side tank alterations, gives a different look already

 

[GHWood]

Most of the additional bits now posed in place, the rear buffer plate has been moved back and a temp spacer put in, the overhang of the bunker has now gone, the curve at the bottom of the bunker remains at present, but I plan to run a strip of L angle brass around the bottom of the loco at running plate level, so that should solve that. Two tool boxes have been made for the front end by the smoke box (in the T&D style), the sidetank patches have been painted and the tank fillers moved back along the tank tops. A couple of washers mark the spot where the sandbox caps will go. Thanks to Chris, I have ordered the proper paint to do the alterations (and dome! )
Next in line is that bunker top, and the addition of coal rails, a bit of pipe work and a couple of Rosco oilers to go either side of the smoke box.... looking good !

 

[Rhinochugger]

definitely go with Graham's suggestion - it needs some more wheels

At least a pony truck at the rear, and very possibly one at the front as well.

You could almost do a 2-6-4 - in the manner of the Leek & Manifold

 

[GHWood]

definitely go with Graham's suggestion - it needs some more wheels

At least a pony truck at the rear, and very possibly one at the front as well.

You could almost do a 2-6-4 - in the manner of the Leek & Manifold

Yes its crying out for that isn't it.
As NHN said, all the radio gubbins goes in that compartment under the cab, so a complete re-think would be in order before I could add the radio gear... its all good to get the old grey matter active though!

 

[brianthesnail96]

Personally I think a 2-6-0 would be better than anything else, would suit the "stance" of the rest of the loco.

I think it'll still look very good without though!

 

[Rhinochugger]

definitely go with Graham's suggestion - it needs some more wheels

At least a pony truck at the rear, and very possibly one at the front as well.

You could almost do a 2-6-4 - in the manner of the Leek & Manifold

Yes its crying out for that isn't it.
As NHN said, all the radio gubbins goes in that compartment under the cab, so a complete re-think would be in order before I could add the radio gear... its all good to get the old grey matter active though!

I wondered if that might be the problem - but that's a huge overhang

 

[Rhinochugger]

Personally I think a 2-6-0 would be better than anything else, would suit the "stance" of the rest of the loco.

Wot, so that the pony truck will act as a counterbalance to the overhang of the cab? - ooer Missus, not sure 'bout that one :thinking::thinking:

 

[brianthesnail96]

Extended frames- look at Neil R's Lady Anne variant towards the start of this thread- I think Lawley is crying out for the same treatment.

Image from http://www.tdlr.org.uk/modelpixlocos.htm

Any additional wheels- whatever end- will require some lengthening of the frames I feel otherwise it'll look cramped, even with the short wheelbase.

Wonder if you can get spare wheelsets from Accucraft? I'd like an 0-8-0!

 

[New Haven Neil]

You're spot on there, Matt - the Trailing & Dangling 2-6-0 is Mike's original inspiration!

 

[brianthesnail96]

You're spot on there, Matt - the Trailing & Dangling 2-6-0 is Mike's original inspiration!

It definitely needs lengthened frames and a pony truck though doesn't it

Someday at least. If someone was to do a small run- 5 to 10 say- I bet they would sell.

I bet two- at least- would sell to contributors on this thread!

 

[GHWood]

You're spot on there, Matt - the Trailing & Dangling 2-6-0 is Mike's original inspiration!

Thats it exactly, I wanted to do something that looked as if it came from Ireland, after one of the lines there closed down, the T&D number 7 was the first one that caught my eye, but having once again spent a pleasant time leafing through Tom Ferris's Irish Narrow Gauge books, I would like to think there is inspiration drawn from a variety of locos, whilst not being one specifically. Going to do the bunker tomorrow, then wait for the paint to arrive before starting the lining out, after that there will be a trip down north for the radio gear to be fitted. I'm not ruling the pony truck out just yet though!

 

[Rhinochugger]

I agree, the T&D locos look nicely proportioned.

the problem with starting with the Lady Anne, is that her b** looks bigger than that

Although I must admit, there's not a lot else place to start, unless it's from scratch :thinking: or, unless you start with a Roundhouse chassis & boiler and do the whole body yourself nphone:

 

[johnsaintjim]

definitely go with Graham's suggestion - it needs some more wheels

At least a pony truck at the rear, and very possibly one at the front as well.

You could almost do a 2-6-4 - in the manner of the Leek & Manifold

Yes its crying out for that isn't it.
As NHN said, all the radio gubbins goes in that compartment under the cab, so a complete re-think would be in order before I could add the radio gear... its all good to get the old grey matter active though!

Just dribbled all over meself - or should I say the Lawley did, upside down...

Well there are many thoughts on this 2-6-2 (or 2-6-4 even??) idea.

The battery box can be emptied. The only thing I have in it are the receiver, charger socket and switch. The batteries are already in the left hand side tank. The tiny AR6110 receiver could go more or less anywhere - LH tank, RH tank, bunker. The regulator and whistle servos are already hidden in the bunker.

As ever, more at http://www.evensfordandmidland.co.uk/workshop/lawley-mods/radio-control-and-whistle

 

[johnsaintjim]

If I was starting from scratch on another Lawley, the wiring would be more organised.

The frames are stainless steel by the way, may I recommend against trying to file the cutouts by hand... There was me thinking they would be brass and I discovered that drilling the hole for the charging socket was a fun job with a hand drill.

I would really like a black Lawley. A black 2-6-2 Lawley is very tempting. Too many projects at the moment though.

 

[GHWood]

How much of a task is cutting through the steel sideframes likely to be ?
There is definately room at the front end for a pony truck, without extending the frames or running plate, you would need to install at least one new frame spacer, to hook the front truck on to, what about the back?
This is getting quite exciting now!

 

[johnsaintjim]

Agreed that there is definitely room. Not too much of a job to cut but I would say far better to strip it down. If you do it in situ, I will be fascinated to know how it goes. It might even inspire me to do it.

The rear, like I say above, has plenty of room if you clear out the battery box.