Lazy Grange Bay 3...a new start

hi guys, and thanks... 1st of, iknew this was comming.. its a planed renewal.. and yes the track plan can be altered, infacd , a planning meeting is happening tommorw afternoon, if thigs go to plan, john, yes it a greman badgae car.. but the shit bits were removed and bined.. no point pussy footing about, i dont use it.. so a coach cjassey was sorced and fitted.. along with metal wheels and other bits.. the line is /might/not/ being convewrted to a twin track , with the goods shed, being moved, and the tracks lifted.. to facilitate, a twin track main line running through it.. and out on to the viadyuct as before.. im planning a sersise of lock gates, and of course, a cannel.. with a loading/unloading bay directly into a new goods shed.. the railway tracks will enter the building .. the voices demaded it, i simply have to follow the voices.......
 
and yes, i do have both asters.. they will be runninig regually, as do all my stock... shelf queseens i dont do..
 
mike said:
.........john, yes it a greman badgae car.. but the shit bits were removed and bined.. no point pussy footing about, i dont use it.. so a coach cjassey was sorced and fitted.. along with metal wheels and other bits.. .....
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Thanks Mike, I thought it looked like one of the Zenner conversions - I was asking about it because I've been looking at them and thinking about getting one myself, and wondered what your experiences of it were like.... so you discarded the Newqida chassis it was built on and fitted the body to a genuine LGB chassis (and roof?)....was it an easy straight swap? How do Zenner build the new car body, is it an entirely new fabrication by them or is it simply new panels plated over the sides and ends of an NQ bodyshell?

Do you reckon the Zenner conversions are worth the price they ask for them?

Jon.
 
yes, its worth it, inmy honest opiion.. its a new boddy shell , with the nequida bits of a chassey.. its not a good as lgb, more rubbery.. delicat deatails like handles are steel rods, or brass. nice touches.. worth the money ..yes.. worth putting it right, by putting a lgb chassie on, only if you think like i do.. the nequida copie, thats what it is... isnt as good, but that my opion, and seeing as its my railway, rule 8.. i can run what i want.. ect..
 
Blinking heck Mike. That rot in just 4 years. I have a feeling that covering timber with felt just traps moisture and may actually speed up the rot.
Best of luck with the rebuild - it'll be better than ever. LGB IV ?
 
Indeed Alan, notice how long timber lasts outdoors when it is able to dry out fairly quickly.

Mike, if you are going to rebuild it in much the same manner as before (base structure I mean) then try a covering that is more weatherproof such as the asphalt type of product that you use glue to set. It is the type used in kiddies play areas I believe. I don't know the cost - possibly not cheap - but you don't have to do it all in one go.
There may be other suggestions of course.
 
Treated planks are cheaper than sheet material ;D ;D

stuff like 25 mm x 100 mm - tanalised
 
Rhinochugger said:
Treated planks are cheaper than sheet material ;D ;D

stuff like 25 mm x 100 mm - tanalised
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And allow water to pass through.
 
excatly guys.. lession learnt.. tanlised timber.. open gaps.. and yes, hopefully, we can rebuild it.. songer, faster, we have the tecnollagy ..the 50p line
 
And don't forget to treat any cut ends of the timber with a paint on preservative.

Now for the daft thought, if one wanted to use grass mat flat over an area of timber/ply base board I wonder if you used a whole lot of flat head nails to form like a bed of nails and laid the grass mat over that. That way there would be at leas some air movement between the timber and the grass mat. Air movement is important when using fencing or decking timber which is not intended for direct contact with the ground and hence doesn't cope with staying wet for any duration. Just a thought, I'm good at thoughts :D
 
the grass matt idea sounds good.. but its already got drainageholes ect.. john.. tiome will tell, so far its told me its brew time!! ???
 
ta ian.. tryed to relay some track, but im wasting my time, i think, the base needs replaceing..
 
Ooh dear, that's beginning to look more serious.

Sounds like a big job. So it's got to be tanalised timber and as JR reminded, seal the cut ends (Cuprinol the real hard stuff is the best). Timber absorbs significantly more moisture through the open grain of a cross cut than it does along its length.

There are different types of Cuprinol, but only one is a wood preserver - red the small print when you buy it.

If you're going to re-build, make sure you only have to do it once ;) ;) ;)
 
JRinTawa said:
And don't forget to treat any cut ends of the timber with a paint on preservative.

Now for the daft thought, if one wanted to use grass mat flat over an area of timber/ply base board I wonder if you used a whole lot of flat head nails to form like a bed of nails and laid the grass mat over that. That way there would be at leas some air movement between the timber and the grass mat. Air movement is important when using fencing or decking timber which is not intended for direct contact with the ground and hence doesn't cope with staying wet for any duration. Just a thought, I'm good at thoughts :D
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The last cedar shingle roof I did was laid over solid sheathing. Not the ideal practice for installing a wood shingle roof. So the architect specified a product called Cedar Breather. It is a mat of what looks like coarse steel wool, but is made of plastic. It is about a half inch thick. When installed under the cedar shingles it keeps them a half inch off the sheathing below, thus allowing the shingles to breath and dry out.
 
I think the difference there is that the shingles would have been on the slope, and thus, predominantly, self-draining. Therefore the breather was only required to do that - allow the materials to breath.

Mike's baseboards are horizontal, and the water will tend to collect; hence the need for some drainage to be designed in to the structure.

Actually, we're all pretty good at telling Mike what to do - we can just sit back and watch ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
 
Build a wall right round it Mr D and fill it with shingle and top with dirt. You can build your own mountains etc and have lots of fun!
Kim
 
it is nigel.. but,, sod it, i have the time, if not the energy.. triped to arcaddia at shaw today resulted in a full box of 1200 track,,chaeap as second hand on evilbay ,if you add postage..
 
So are we looking at Lazy Grange Bay 4? ??? ??? ??? ???


...or just Lazy Grange Bay 3a :P :P :P :P :P
 
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